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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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#8001
KnightofPhoenix

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@ Shiori.
Can't we have the option to sit back and watch as Morrigan kills them?

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Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 31 août 2010 - 08:02 .


#8002
MortalEngines

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 Since I've removed alot of the Morrigan from this thread, I'll add some more in, with the aid of Aimo!
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I wanted to use this pic for a sig but it was no good :(.

On a happier note, finished Jacks Smirking Revenge's Anora Signature Request: 
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Zjarcal wrote...

:o:O:O:O:wub::wub::wub::wub:

*goes into Leli overdose and will use both siggies*

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Gotta love the bloody nature of the font, really goes with the caption!


Glad you loved both Signatures, I guess I won't be posting it on the Leliana thread after all :P. Also I'm happy you like the font, I've got so many fonts I've collected over the years some times I'm spoilt for choice with what to use, but it's good it matched the nature of the caption.

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Son of a ****, too many awesome sigs!


I'm glad you like them, once I'm done with the requests, I'll work on the Sacred Ashes Morrigan Signature (this was my own decision, so it's free for ANYONE to use) now that I've figured out how to fix the speed.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Honestly, I get the feeling Morrigan will end up killing both the elf and the bookworm mage.

The Warden will most likely have the option of helping her do it or defending his companions (in which case Morri will likely flee after a short battle and a few angry words).


this sounds possible to a huge extent, though i might have one remark. Wouldn't that make Morrigan "bad" or evil". Even if she has perfect and sound reasons for her doing, killing innocent for that and the Warden choosing to help her doing so would qualify as evil to me.

And so far, Morrigan has refrained from being classified as evil. On the contrary, BW has done alot to sure let her appear sometimes cruel ad heartless, but never let her be evil and leave the player in the dark if she is good, bad, or just plain neutral.

If she do like you describe, i guess that would answer this question, and probably before you even get to ask her your questions.

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Rikudou Sennin

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Well... that was innapproiate... but hey! i instist!!!

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The moment you meet her is gonna be the make or break of this DLC, don't you guys agree? The music, the facial expressions, everything.



Morrigan: What? Who's there?

*Dust settles*
Warden: Sup Mo. B)

Morrigan: Is that a dagger in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

#8006
MortalEngines

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KnightofPhoenix's signature request is finished :wizard:, hope you enjoy KOP!

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Now I've finished all the requests given to me, if anyone has any more, just post it here and I'll get to work on it. ^_^

EDIT: Just saw a problem, fixing it now, one moment (there is a bit of brown there where there shouldn't be :pinched:)

Modifié par MortalEngines, 31 août 2010 - 08:29 .


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MortalEngines wrote...

KnightofPhoenix's signature request has finished :wizard:, hope you enjoy KOP!

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Now I've finished all the requests given to me, if anyone has any more, just post it here and I'll get to work on it. ^_^


HAHAH I love it!

But maybe the font can be changed? Because it is kind of hard to read. Also, maybe it being written in red or something a little bit brighter.

So sorry if I am beinb annoying. IF you don't have time, it's ok, I still love it!

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MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Honestly, I get the feeling Morrigan will end up killing both the elf and the bookworm mage.

The Warden will most likely have the option of helping her do it or defending his companions (in which case Morri will likely flee after a short battle and a few angry words).


this sounds possible to a huge extent, though i might have one remark. Wouldn't that make Morrigan "bad" or evil". Even if she has perfect and sound reasons for her doing, killing innocent for that and the Warden choosing to help her doing so would qualify as evil to me.

And so far, Morrigan has refrained from being classified as evil. On the contrary, BW has done alot to sure let her appear sometimes cruel ad heartless, but never let her be evil and leave the player in the dark if she is good, bad, or just plain neutral.

If she do like you describe, i guess that would answer this question, and probably before you even get to ask her your questions.


Actually it all depends on how the scene goes down.

The elf seeks a lost artifact of her people and, provided it was Morrigan that stole it, would most likely try and kill her for her crime.
The mage might object to whatever Morrigan is doing and deicde that she's too dangerous to be allowed to live. We know he's an expert on Tevinter lore but we don't know how he feels about it being used again.

If it comes to that then Morrigan would be acting in self defense and the Warden could either agree that what she's doing is dangerous and needs to stop or see her as a victim and protect her.

Regardless of what happens I doubt Bioware would make it a clear white/black decision. Nothing in DA:O is so clearly cut which makes the game all the more interesting.

Warden's decision in this case would depend entirely on the players own opinion of Morrigan, her goals and his relationship with his companions. There wouldn't be any "right or wrong" decision, just different choices.

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Very nice work thanks a lot Mortal!


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Master Shiori wrote...

Actually it all depends on how the scene goes down.

The elf seeks a lost artifact of her people and, provided it was Morrigan that stole it, would most likely try and kill her for her crime.
The mage might object to whatever Morrigan is doing and deicde that she's too dangerous to be allowed to live. We know he's an expert on Tevinter lore but we don't know how he feels about it being used again.

If it comes to that then Morrigan would be acting in self defense and the Warden could either agree that what she's doing is dangerous and needs to stop or see her as a victim and protect her.


Ah, but now you've changed the setting. In your first descriptions, it sounds more like "Morrigan does not want those two around, so she is going to kill them and you either have the choice to help her or fight her. She would be the aggressor there. And that would make her evil.

Now, in your second scenario, she is the aggressor no more, as she is the one being attacked, and if the others would not attack, she would probably tolerate their presence and do them no harm. This is a completely different situation and we have an agreement that this does not make her actions evil anymore.

MortalEngines wrote...

KnightofPhoenix's signature request is finished [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie], hope you enjoy KOP!

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Now I've finished all the requests given to me, if anyone has any more, just post it here and I'll get to work on it. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

EDIT: Just saw a problem, fixing it now, one moment (there is a bit of brown there where there shouldn't be [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie])


If you want more, sure, i'll contribute.

I would like to have an interactive one of Morrigan.

!. a nice in game shot of her face (just like the others, eyes and part of the face". Probably a face shot like the one above, where she has a rather kind expression.

2. her name Morrigan

3. her famous Denerim quote "i'll never forget you my love". I hope i remember that quote correct, it was at least close to that. If you or anyone else remembers that quote more accurate than i do, pls the accurate one.

For the colors. not too cold colors, it should fit the message of the sig. But not all too warm and fuzzy either, still should be in character.

Up for a challenge? ;)

Modifié par MoSa09, 31 août 2010 - 08:47 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

KnightofPhoenix's signature request has finished :wizard:, hope you enjoy KOP!

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Now I've finished all the requests given to me, if anyone has any more, just post it here and I'll get to work on it. ^_^


HAHAH I love it!

But maybe the font can be changed? Because it is kind of hard to read. Also, maybe it being written in red or something a little bit brighter.

So sorry if I am beinb annoying. IF you don't have time, it's ok, I still love it!


No problem, sorry about that brown bit, I've fixed that now, I've also got 3 versions now, the one above but with the brown fixed, the same font but in red and another font type also in red:

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If you don't like any of the fonts still I'll do another one.


MoSa09 wrote...

If you want more, sure, i'll contribute.

I would like to have an interactive one of Morrigan.

!. a nice in game shot of her face (just like the others, eyes and part of the face". Probably a face shot like the one above, where she has a rather kind expression.

2. her name Morrigan 

3. her famous Denerim quote "i'll never forget you my love". I hope i remember that quote correct, it was at least close to that. If you or anyone else remembers that quote more accurate than i do, pls the accurate one.

For the colors. not too cold colors, it should fit the message of the sig. But not all too warm and fuzzy either, still should be in character.

Up for a challenge? ;)


I'm up for any challenge :police:.

On that note, what do you mean by interactive? For someone like me (computer nerd), that could mean many things, do you mean an animated one? Other than that, I can do it for sure =].

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Very nice work thanks a lot Mortal!


No problem, glad you like it :wizard:

Modifié par MortalEngines, 31 août 2010 - 08:53 .


#8012
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This is going to sound stupid Mortal. The middle one is perfect, but if you could get the "O" in KoP to not be capitalised. So it would be KoP and not KOP.

Really really sorry. I know I am ridiculously picky...

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

This is going to sound stupid Mortal. The middle one is perfect, but if you could get the "O" in KoP to not be capitalised. So it would be KoP and not KOP.
Really really sorry. I know I am ridiculously picky...


No, no it's FINE! If I'm gonna do it, it's best I do it right ;). Plus it's not much of a hassle for me anyway so don't worry about it. 

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Hope you're happy with it. :wizard:

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MortalEngines wrote...

I'm up for any challenge :police:.

On that note, what do you mean by interactive? For someone like me (computer nerd), that could mean many things, do you mean an animated one? Other than that, I can do it for sure =].


my bad, i wanted to say animated :innocent: At least her quote should be put on the second slide.

And might i request a different font for her name. I am rather fond of the font i use in my sig, something like that. But just for her name, her quote should have a rather common font like the others. So her name looks more like handwriting, as if she gave an autograph before leaving ;)

#8015
KnightofPhoenix

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LOVE IT!!! Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.

Dude, you should really make a sig request thread in the community section, because your work is awesome!

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KoP, the screenshot you picked reminds me the DR where she walks out and leaves... :(




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MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Actually it all depends on how the scene goes down.

The elf seeks a lost artifact of her people and, provided it was Morrigan that stole it, would most likely try and kill her for her crime.
The mage might object to whatever Morrigan is doing and deicde that she's too dangerous to be allowed to live. We know he's an expert on Tevinter lore but we don't know how he feels about it being used again.

If it comes to that then Morrigan would be acting in self defense and the Warden could either agree that what she's doing is dangerous and needs to stop or see her as a victim and protect her.


Ah, but now you've changed the setting. In your first descriptions, it sounds more like "Morrigan does not want those two around, so she is going to kill them and you either have the choice to help her or fight her. She would be the aggressor there. And that would make her evil.

Now, in your second scenario, she is the aggressor no more, as she is the one being attacked, and if the others would not attack, she would probably tolerate their presence and do them no harm. This is a completely different situation and we have an agreement that this does not make her actions evil anymore.


Nothing was changed, I just forgot to explain the context when I first posted that scenario. :pinched:

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Master Shiori wrote...

Nothing was changed, I just forgot to explain the context when I first posted that scenario. :pinched:


at least there was a change in the message i got ;)

But i got you now friend, and we have an agreement. And i am sure you would agree you would rush to her defense if that happens? I know i would ^_^

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blademaster7 wrote...

KoP, the screenshot you picked reminds me the DR where she walks out and leaves... :(


It's actually from the Witch hunt page. But yea, does remind me of that too Posted Image

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The DR scene was so hard the first time I got to it.

I turend my screen off and went outside to think, and then think some more.



Really have to applaud Gaider for doing that.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

The DR scene was so hard the first time I got to it.
I turend my screen off and went outside to think, and then think some more.

Really have to applaud Gaider for doing that.


Did the same. Turned off the system and went out for a walk (it was way late into the night). When i returned, i reloaded to see if i did anything wrong).

Turned it out again, only to get up in the dead of the night and finish the game to see if she changes gher mind on the last instance. When i was done, sun was rising, i was wasted and i felt horrible (and not just fore the lack of sleep)

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I was planing to do the DR, then shut it off and finish the game the day after. But I just couldn't take it anymore and decided to finish the game right there and then. Didn't sleep the entire night, it was...I don't know how to describe it, but no game ever did that to me. Like ever.

#8023
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If you refused DR and were in good terms with her didn´t see say she did not want to see the Warden die?

There´s also that cutscene in comic form.

#8024
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I did the DR and the Battle of Denerim in the same day.



When it was done and the epilogue slides rolled on I had a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. The thought that I just sired a child with the woman I love but would never see either of them again was really horrible.

If it was just Morri leaving I could cope, but the thought of my kid growing up without ever knowing his/her father was too terrible to contemplate...

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I was veering back and forth and was so confused.

I didnt know Morrigan very well and had a negative view (you guys especially Brock changed that)

but I didnt want to die or risk Alistair biting it, since I whacked Loghain and Anora would be peeved.



I dont like taking risks though, especailly when I dont know the end.

It was wierd going into a game final and KNOWING that I would not be coming back.