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Master Shiori wrote...
The disturbing fact is that out of those, 20 romanced Morrigan and all 26 did the DR... :whistle:


how do you managed to do this. I am rather protective and jealous of her. No one besides my "Morrigan romance Warden" everr touched her. All other Wardens besides that one either killed themselves, Loghain or Alistair. I coudln't bear the thought of her making out with someone else, let alone watch it. So ny DR for anyone else but my main Warden.


Hehe, I have this very same mentality. It's the reason why I only have one Warden, my HNF... who in an alternate universe was a mage, and in an bizarre universe, was an elf (who didn't look like an elf...:whistle:).

Yeah, I'm weird.

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MortalEngines wrote...

MoSa09's signature is done. This one took some time because I wanted to try and get the right colour, in the end it ended up a bit brighter than intended because of the scanlines I put in (it's in all the sigs) but hopefully it's not too 'warm'. I tried to avoid pinky/red colours and went for a more purple feel. Also I spilt it to 3 'slides' because I felt 'I'll never forget you...' and 'my love' should be on different slides...

Enough of that, here is your sig:

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Hope you enjoy :wizard:


I'll guess now its me to be in love. Thanks a bunch, really!!!!!!!! I love it.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Well Morrigan would find a Dalish Warden to be a perfect match for her, since they share a common opinion of the Chantry, human society and magic.

Also, I imagine the Dalish Warden would be least opposed to the idea of doing the DR.


That could answer my question. Does she made some specific remarks along the game/romance of you being dalish and all those similarities? Tell me all about it, i might be mad enough to do one last  restart one week pre Witch Hunt to create a new save :o

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MoSa09 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

MoSa09's signature is done. This one took some time because I wanted to try and get the right colour, in the end it ended up a bit brighter than intended because of the scanlines I put in (it's in all the sigs) but hopefully it's not too 'warm'. I tried to avoid pinky/red colours and went for a more purple feel. Also I spilt it to 3 'slides' because I felt 'I'll never forget you...' and 'my love' should be on different slides...

Enough of that, here is your sig:

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Hope you enjoy :wizard:


I'll guess now its me to be in love. Thanks a bunch, really!!!!!!!! I love it.


Great! Glad you enjoyed it! Now I should stop derailing my topics with my signatures :pinched:. Though if anyone else wants one, I've got like 2hours + before I decided to go to bed (since I've got a cold, I don't feel like staying on too long, last night I was on till 1am)

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Well Morrigan would find a Dalish Warden to be a perfect match for her, since they share a common opinion of the Chantry, human society and magic. 

Also, I imagine the Dalish Warden would be least opposed to the idea of doing the DR.


That could answer my question. Does she made some specific remarks along the game/romance of you being dalish and all those similarities? Tell me all about it, i might be mad enough to do one last  restart one week pre Witch Hunt to create a new save :o


Umm when I romanced her I don't remember any specific remarks about me being a Dalish apart from the fact that I told her "I'm not human, so I don't know" when she spoke about all the 'touching' in human society. Also...is it crazy that I've started a new game in Origins and plan to go through to Awakening before witch hunt comes out? :unsure:.

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@MortalEngines:



Did you get the PM I sent you?

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Master Shiori wrote...

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Hmm my Canon of Canon runs is:
Maheron Mahariel.

Cool guy, but didnt do the DR, or romance Morrigan.
Although it appears that it is a terrible thing to not romance Morrigan as a male dalish.


Well Morrigan would find a Dalish Warden to be a perfect match for her, since they share a common opinion of the Chantry, human society and magic.

Also, I imagine the Dalish Warden would be least opposed to the idea of doing the DR.

Well not exactly in the case of Maheron who wanted to see and explore all views himself and get his own view on it first. He saw that many Chantry people werent devils,and that many Dalish (ie Zathrian) were lost to their hate. 
He didnt agree with her view that only survival mattered, his clan and family he held higher than his own life.

Also Leliana, ninjamanced him and he has a weakness for redheads since she is the first he saw. I didnt start a Morri romance with him since all the goofy lines were in charachter for him so he missed the ones that start it.

Also he thought of the DR "Yes because bringing back the Incarnate form of one of the gods whose worshippers saw my ancestors massacered and enslaved is such a nice idea"

Dosent matter since my evil Mage liked Morrigan the most, and he stuck with her.

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MoSa09 wrote...

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What do you mean? They're all *my* Warden.  :huh:

It's not like I'm letting someone else's character romance her.

And besides, ever since I made that male Dalish Warden I can't decide who my canon character is anymore. It's a tie between Theron Mahariel and Aedan Cousland. 

Hmm, maybe I should let Morri decide...


So you're the man to ask. I always felt to me like Morri is designed to romance a Cousland, and apparently most people did. But i always thought i could be fun and interesting, as maybe fitting, to try an elf as well (someone who needs a steplatter for a simple kiss is out of the questions, yes dwarfs, i am looking at you :)).

So how does it feel to romance her as a dalish. That question might sound stupid, i was just torn and undecided if i should try at all, and what feels better and seems to fit her more, city elf or dalish elf?


Honestly, the Dalish Warden and Morrigan are almost made for each other.

They both feel like outcasts (Morrigan from human society and the Dalish having lost his homeland), hate the Chantry, share common opinion about magic (Dalish is the only Warden who wouldn't have a problem with Morri being an apostate and has even heard of shapeshifter mages before) and dislike human society.

So romancing Morrigan felt like a natural thing for my Dalish. If you can put yourself into a correct mindset and see things as a Dalish would, you'll find it to be a rather unique experience when compared to other Origins.


And Cousland is also a good fit for Morrigan, but that really depends on what kind of a person he is and how he feels about magic, Chantry and apostates.
A magic hating Chantry loyalist Cousland wouldn't fit with Morrigan, but would find common ground with Leliana.

Mine is an open-minded guy who doesn't really care about Chantry and it's rules so no problem there.

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Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.

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MortalEngines wrote...

Umm when I romanced her I don't remember any specific remarks about me being a Dalish apart from the fact that I told her "I'm not human, so I don't know" when she spoke about all the 'touching' in human society. Also...is it crazy that I've started a new game in Origins and plan to go through to Awakening before witch hunt comes out? :unsure:.


There is a Dalish specific line when you ask Morrigan about being a shapeshifter.

You get to say how Dalish Keeper posses similar magic to which Morri replies that she'd be interested in talking to them in order to discover where they learned it.

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MortalEngines wrote...


Umm when I romanced her I don't remember any specific remarks about me being a Dalish apart from the fact that I told her "I'm not human, so I don't know" when she spoke about all the 'touching' in human society. Also...is it crazy that I've started a new game in Origins and plan to go through to Awakening before witch hunt comes out? :unsure:.


If you skip dialog it should be OK. Otherwise I hope you can play at least 75 hours before Tuesday afternoon.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Honestly, the Dalish Warden and Morrigan are almost made for each other.

They both feel like outcasts (Morrigan from human society and the Dalish having lost his homeland), hate the Chantry, share common opinion about magic (Dalish is the only Warden who wouldn't have a problem with Morri being an apostate and has even heard of shapeshifter mages before) and dislike human society.

So romancing Morrigan felt like a natural thing for my Dalish. If you can put yourself into a correct mindset and see things as a Dalish would, you'll find it to be a rather unique experience when compared to other Origins.


And Cousland is also a good fit for Morrigan, but that really depends on what kind of a person he is and how he feels about magic, Chantry and apostates.
A magic hating Chantry loyalist Cousland wouldn't fit with Morrigan, but would find common ground with Leliana.

Mine is an open-minded guy who doesn't really care about Chantry and it's rules so no problem there.



sounds like i should give them a shot. Okay, fire up up the toolset and start with the headmorph.

Whch class did you played? My Cousland was a warrior, i am thinking of romancing her with a rogue this time, but not sure?

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Master Shiori wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

Not to interupts all the Sig/banner requests (all of which look Incredible by the by) but I've been looking for something with Morrigan and I'm having a **** of a time finding it. Everyone been to the main page for the Witch Hunt DLC, right? Right there on the page is this Amazing shot of Morrigan's model from the Blur Trailer. Does anybody know where that image came from? (Yes, aside from the Blur Trailer) I was hoping to find it as a standalone or set to a Wallpaper, Just the image itself would be great. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.


That's from Sacred Ashes trailer, right before Morrigan blows the HIgh Dragon away with lightning.

You can find the trailer on DA:O website, under gallery -> movies


(Laughs) Yikes, apparently I need to work on my Grammar, because this isn't what I asked at all. At the main web-page for the Witch Hunt DLC, right as the top, is a super-imposed shot of the Morrigan Model from the original Dragon Age Origin's Trailer by Blur. Standing there, blue lighting in hand. It's a great image, and I was hoping it had pulled from stock. I know it's the same image on the Morrigan Lithograph they were selling not too long ago in the BioWare store. I'd love to have the image for my Desktop or just to have the image period. I wasn't asking for the Trailer (Hell, if I didn't know about that -at this point- old Trailer I'd have shot myself) just looking for the Image used. Hope that clears some things up. Sorry if this is "way" off topic again. Trying to keep up with you folks can be murder at times.
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.


She never voiced an opinion about werewolves in my games. Is it after you suggest the idea? The city elves situation seems another different writer induced schizophrenia (sp?) situation. She wants Sten and Jowna freed but not them?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.

My friend was playing a City Elf who romanced her.
He dumped her for that and kicked her from the party.,

He was more mad at Bioware for not letting him yell these are my family and friends in there!

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Master Shiori wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...
The disturbing fact is that out of those, 20 romanced Morrigan and all 26 did the DR... :whistle:


how do you managed to do this. I am rather protective and jealous of her. No one besides my "Morrigan romance Warden" everr touched her. All other Wardens besides that one either killed themselves, Loghain or Alistair. I coudln't bear the thought of her making out with someone else, let alone watch it. So ny DR for anyone else but my main Warden.


What do you mean? They're all *my* Warden.  :huh:

It's not like I'm letting someone else's character romance her.

And besides, ever since I made that male Dalish Warden I can't decide who my canon character is anymore. It's a tie between Theron Mahariel and Aedan Cousland. 

Hmm, maybe I should let Morri decide...


Woot! Edric Cousland all the way! xD

glenboy24 wrote...

Not to interupts all the Sig/banner
requests (all of which look Incredible by the by) but I've been looking
for something with Morrigan and I'm having a **** of a time finding it.
Everyone been to the main page for the Witch Hunt DLC, right? Right
there on the page is this Amazing shot of Morrigan's model from the Blur
Trailer. Does anybody know where that image came from? (Yes, aside from
the Blur Trailer) I was hoping to find it as a standalone or set to a
Wallpaper, Just the image itself would be great. Thanks in advance to
anyone who can help.


Not the exact image but I was linked by one of my watchers to this one. Posted Image (right click view image for larger image :D )

@Mortal

I'd really like one for my favorite witch 'mancin Warden. xD different link because the one at my dA is watermark'd I'd love it if you put in there "Miserable Selfish Bastard" then "Edric Cousland. ^_^


@Mosa

Ohgoooodddd. One my favorite Morrigan romance liiiiinessss.<3

Morrigan: There is far more I might have done for you.... have this been another time and we.... different people. Allow me to say only one thing before I go: I was foolish. This could have been easier, yet I cannot regret what was between us. I will always remember you, my love.

<3


@Everyone who is following DW

New page up. ;) p20


-Regarding Finn

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Edric: So do you think he'll be like Wynne? 

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.


She never advocates that you side with the werewolves against the Dalish. She only approves if you do it on your own (not even sure if that's the case since DA:O Wikia doesn't list any approval gain with Morrigan for siding with the werewolves). Besides, it's not like a Dalish Warden would ever suggest killing his own people, epecially since Lady of the Forest wants a peaceful resolution.

On the subject of Dalish disapproving of Morrigan being human; that would only matter if your Warden was still an active member of his community.

Since you left your clan to become a Warden, I doubt they'd care too much about who you take as your partner. But it really comes down to your Warden and whether he'd be comfortable with the idea of romancing a human. If he would then Morrigan is a perfect fit.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.


Well to be fair, the werewolves will only be an option if the player brings it up, so a Dalish who suggests killing the Dalish shouldn't get too angry at Morrigan for approving of that.

The City Elf thing on the other hand has badly handled in my opinion. While Morrigan doesn't care much for family, I feel that if a CE who was romancing her, yelled at her making her realize it was his/her father in one of the cages, she would've backed down from approving of the sacrifice.

EDIT: Looks like the above post by Master Shiori is identical to mine.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 31 août 2010 - 10:35 .


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Zjarcal wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Still, Morrigan favoring using werewolves and killing the Dalish, and her favoring the sacrifice the city elves might be a source of tension for a Dalish. Also the fact taht she is a shemlen. I don't think there is an origin deisgned to fit with Morrigan perse, but at first glance it does seem that a Dalish would get along with her well.


Well to be fair, the werewolves will only be an option if the player brings it up, so a Dalish who suggests killing the Dalish shouldn't get too angry at Morrigan for approving of that.

The City Elf thing on the other hand has badly handled in my opinion. While Morrigan doesn't care much for family, I feel that if a CE who was romancing her, yelled at her making her realize it was his/her father in one of the cages, she would've backed down from approving of the sacrifice.

EDIT: Looks like the above post by Master Shiori is identical to mine.

Or not, Morrigan dosent hold family in that high of a regard.

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MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Honestly, the Dalish Warden and Morrigan are almost made for each other.

They both feel like outcasts (Morrigan from human society and the Dalish having lost his homeland), hate the Chantry, share common opinion about magic (Dalish is the only Warden who wouldn't have a problem with Morri being an apostate and has even heard of shapeshifter mages before) and dislike human society.

So romancing Morrigan felt like a natural thing for my Dalish. If you can put yourself into a correct mindset and see things as a Dalish would, you'll find it to be a rather unique experience when compared to other Origins.


And Cousland is also a good fit for Morrigan, but that really depends on what kind of a person he is and how he feels about magic, Chantry and apostates.
A magic hating Chantry loyalist Cousland wouldn't fit with Morrigan, but would find common ground with Leliana.

Mine is an open-minded guy who doesn't really care about Chantry and it's rules so no problem there.



sounds like i should give them a shot. Okay, fire up up the toolset and start with the headmorph.

Whch class did you played? My Cousland was a warrior, i am thinking of romancing her with a rogue this time, but not sure?


My Dalish is an archer rogue, since I thought that the ranger spec is perfect for a Dalish.

My Cousland is a sword&shield warrior.

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Yea true about the werewolves options. I don't recall Morrigan losing any approval if we go by the other two choices.

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ximena wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

*snip*


*snip*


*snip*


*snip*

glenboy24 wrote...

Not to interupts all the Sig/banner
requests (all of which look Incredible by the by) but I've been looking
for something with Morrigan and I'm having a **** of a time finding it.
Everyone been to the main page for the Witch Hunt DLC, right? Right
there on the page is this Amazing shot of Morrigan's model from the Blur
Trailer. Does anybody know where that image came from? (Yes, aside from
the Blur Trailer) I was hoping to find it as a standalone or set to a
Wallpaper, Just the image itself would be great. Thanks in advance to
anyone who can help.


Not the exact image but I was linked by one of my watchers to this one. Posted Image (right click view image for larger image :D )

@Mortal

*snip*

@Mosa

Ohgoooodddd. One my favorite Morrigan romance liiiiinessss.<3

Morrigan: There is far more I might have done for you.... have this been another time and we.... different people. Allow me to say only one thing before I go: I was foolish. This could have been easier, yet I cannot regret what was between us. I will always remember you, my love.

<3


@Everyone who is following DW

New page up. ;) p20


-Regarding Finn

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Edric: So do you think he'll be like Wynne? 



First: Thank you for the Image. It's brilliant, even if it not exactly the one I was hoping for. Still great.

Second: Where does that Romance Dialogue come up? Is that the final conversation at the Gates of Denerim? God, I want to hear that.

Third: The last image is trully awesome. Love Morrigan just hanging out with Edric. It's so out of place with the PC in front of them, but it just...works. And she looks gorgeous.
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@MortalEngines: might i make a new request? Thankfully, Ximena correct my line. So what i gave you is wrong, and the right line would be "I will always remember you, my love".

And i thought about a different color this time? Something in white and blue this time?

I feel like exploiting you, but the offer is just to good to resist. And your sigs are just awesome. The rest can stay the same, love the headshot, she font and all. Just to change her phrase with the accurate one listed her, and some darker colors? I hope they're not cold and dark then, i'll trust your talent there :wizard:

you would have my eternal thanks, as worthless as they might be ;)

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Damn! I go away for a couple hours and the thread expands by multiple pages! Bravo to MortalEngines for the top notch sigs (I may have an idea for one, but I'll have to dwell on it for a bit:wizard:)

glenboy24 wrote...
 I was hoping to find it as a standalone or set to a Wallpaper, Just the image itself would be great.


Here are several links to standalone images of Sacred Ashes Morrigan:

http://vikiyeo.cgsoc...gallery/820736/
http://cghub.com/images/view/51241/
http://images4.wikia...rriganSpell.jpg   (that one is super high res!)
http://img837.images...rriganashes.jpg

I actually don't mind Sacred Ashes Morrigan that much, its just whenever any of the characters open their mouths to talk in that trailer, its VERY Uncanny Valley and creepy.

blademaster7 wrote...
KoP, the screenshot you picked reminds me the DR where she walks out and leaves... :(


Yup, and its from Witch Hunt:
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I'm curious as to what the red/pinkish thing is behind her? It seems like some sort of force field or something? I can see it now- you get to the Elven ruin or whatever towards the end of the DLC and see Morrigan, have a brief chat from a distance only to have her run away into the ruins, cue you chasing through the dungeon after her. Only to find her and likely "confront" her in some boss fight where she goes mad with power over the Elven MacGuffin, then get your answers in some 5 minute Awakening/Architect style scene.......sorry for the doom and gloom, but....

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I hope I am wrong, but....someone put the Eomer pic.


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Oh well, 26 characters are lined up and ready to go. Should be a busy night..


Thats crazy- I've made a bunch but only have maybe 3-4 that I've gone all the way from Origins through Awakening. And they all end up romancing Morrigan.... *sigh*

Giggles_Manically wrote...

The DR scene was so hard the first time I got to it.
I turend my screen off and went outside to think, and then think some more.

Really have to applaud Gaider for doing that.


Oh, definitely. I remember when I first got to it, it was late at night and I was going to stop only to be surprised by Morrigan being in my Warden's room. Definitely an "OH S***!" type moment. I knew something was up with Morrigan and was waiting for the big reveal ( I was thinking she would be revealed as the Big Bad or Flemeth or something or she would die somehow) but the whole OGB thing took me by surprise. My initial gut reaction was to shut her down since she does a terrible job of convincing as she is too evasive with details, but seeing as my Warden was romancing her and trusted her he went along. And if anything went to hell, he'd be around to deal with it. But once the "OMG!" shock of the DR wears off on subsequent playthroughs, its very easy to tear that scene apart RP wise and in terms of gimped dialogue choices.

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Zjarcal's signautre request complete:

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I have no idea why their faces are cartoonized, that's what happened when I uploaded it :blink:.

ximena wrote...
@Mortal

I'd really like one for my favorite witch 'mancin Warden. xD different link because the one at my dA is watermark'dI'd love it if you put in there "Miserable Selfish Bastard" then "Edric Cousland. ^_^


I'm secretly a fan of your comic :wub:. So of course, it would be my pleasure to do so, keep up the good work, I wish I could draw as well as you..:pinched:.

Brockololly wrote...

Damn! I go away for a couple hours and the thread expands by multiple pages! Bravo to MortalEngines for the top notch sigs (I may have an idea for one, but I'll have to dwell on it for a bit:wizard:)


Thanks, I'm glad you like them! Give me your idea any time but it's closing in on 1am in the  UK so make it quick because I might go to bed soon (I've still got my cold :( *sniffle*)

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MortalEngines wrote...


Thanks, I'm glad you like them! Give me your idea any time but it's closing in on 1am in the  UK so make it quick because I might go to bed soon (I've still got my cold :( *sniffle*)


you catched my second request in between? :innocent: