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Brockololly

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adneate wrote...

Just watched that, much better than the Witch Hunt trailer. I feel excited for one and depressed by the other, damnit why is the ME team doing a better job than the Dragon Age team with this whole DLC thing. Lair of the Shadow Broker has new environments, a new vehicle section, continuation for a ME1 romance and all the voice actor's back in their roles plus it looks like a logical progression for the Shadow Broker / Liara plot line. Switch over to Witch Hunt we've got all re-used art assets more grind fest gameplay, Morrigan acting all Evil and messing around with a mirror that's only previous function was to explode in a ball of Darkspawn taint . . .


QFT. Its especially the new environments thats bugging me. While each Me 2 dlc creates environments that feel new and genuine, the DA 2 takes you to the exact same places you've seen before, jusut with a different meaning this time. They did not even to bother and try to hidy their copy - paste.


Yeah, I don't mind the reused levels when it makes sense. Like going back to Flemeth's hut- you use FLemeth's hut over again. But if the epilogues were anything to go by, this should be taking place in Orlais or the Frostbacks. They better explain why she came back to Ferelden after heading to Orlais...

As for Shadow Broker- I just can't get excited over ME that much. I don't think its a coincidence that BG2 and DAO are 2 of the games I've been most emotionally engaged in, due to the silent PC. Just watching the trailer for Shadow Broker made me cringe at Meer's delivery- the ME teams seems to know what the fans want but damn the writing and VO seemed stilted there.

I've calmed down a bit now, I think- all I know is that next Tuesday is going to be anxiety filled. That download for Witch Hunt is going to be the longest download EVAR!

And I think I may pause my second COusland Warden's progress and try to speed run through with a Dalish rogue. Do you think the Dalish origin will get any special treatment in this DLC?

I'll post my breakdown of the Witch Hunt trailer in a bit...

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adneate wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Pessimism is strong in this one...


Sad part is I'm sitting here laughing like a fool everytime I get to the giant rock part, It's just so perfect an ending so . . . Gaider!


Fallout 3 and NWN2 had to be retconned for taking that kind of option.

In the Memory, Sorrow & Thorn books the author was tempted on bad days, but decided against doing that to the readers.

A Diabolus ex Machina just doesn´t work with Dragon Age. The game is by far not dark enough for it to be other than jarring.

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Sure, what do you have in mind?


i wanna have a personal one, just for me. To use together with the one i already have and love. The pic should be this screenshot of mine [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/da_game_screenshots/584000/583149/Screenshot20100224192542167.jpg[/smilie]

I am still working on the line though. Does anyone recall what exactly Morrigan says to how when she tells you she is not worth your time? And what exactly the Wardens answers when he tells her he IS worth his time? I wanna get it right first time now. If we manage to find out, i'll finish the lines and would tell what and how to say?

What do you think?

edit: if Brock is reading his, he should know the lines or find them in a few seconds... :lol:

Modifié par MoSa09, 01 septembre 2010 - 05:48 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Just watching the trailer for Shadow Broker made me cringe at Meer's delivery- the ME teams seems to know what the fans want but damn the writing and VO seemed stilted there.


I have no idea why they make Meer voice MShep like that, it's like they bring him in and say "Now look Mark we don't want you to act at all in fact just say everything as bland and as lifelessly as possible". He did Tug in Leliana's Song and was great so It has to be the ME team telling him to be that flat, maybe they worry about him sounding too Canadian? I know people complain that Shianni in Dragon Age sounds too Canadian for sensitive American ears, honestly I think they should just have gone all out and had Meer voice Shepard with a heavy Newfie accent. It would be the greatest game in the history of the world, the renegade lines would be worth the price of admission alone.

I can hear it in my head right now, it's Glorious . . .

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MoSa09 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

Sure, what do you have in mind?


i wanna have a personal one, just for me. To use together with the one i already have and love. The pic should be this screenshot of mine [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/da_game_screenshots/584000/583149/Screenshot20100224192542167.jpg[/smilie]

I am still working on the line though. Does anyone recall what exactly Morrigan says to how when she tells you she is not worth your time? And what exactly the Wardens answers when he tells her he IS worth his time? I wanna get it right first time now. If we manage to find out, i'll finish the lines and would tell what and how to say?

What do you think?

edit: if Brock is reading his, he should know the lines or find them in a few seconds... :lol:


I should be able to do this, you want both their faces in there right? I don't know the lines you're referring to but I'll work on the rest of the sig till you figure it out :happy:.

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I should be able to do this, you want both their faces in there right? I don't know the lines you're referring to but I'll work on the rest of the sig till you figure it out :happy:.


You should see at least part of him and her, and it should be clear what they're doing there and he is gently holding her face.

And i'll trying to figure the phrase

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adneate wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Just watching the trailer for Shadow Broker made me cringe at Meer's delivery- the ME teams seems to know what the fans want but damn the writing and VO seemed stilted there.


I have no idea why they make Meer voice MShep like that, it's like they bring him in and say "Now look Mark we don't want you to act at all in fact just say everything as bland and as lifelessly as possible". He did Tug in Leliana's Song and was great so It has to be the ME team telling him to be that flat, maybe they worry about him sounding too Canadian? I know people complain that Shianni in Dragon Age sounds too Canadian for sensitive American ears, honestly I think they should just have gone all out and had Meer voice Shepard with a heavy Newfie accent. It would be the greatest game in the history of the world, the renegade lines would be worth the price of admission alone.

I can hear it in my head right now, it's Glorious . . .


Maybe it is because English is not my mother language but I have no problem with Meer. Don´t understand why so many say he´s wooden, at least with Paragons. Was also quite surprised when i saw he was Tug in Leliana´s Song.

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MoSa09 wrote...
You should see at least part of him and her, and it should be clear what they're doing there and he is gently holding her face.

And i'll trying to figure the phrase

Nice screeny, very romantic! :D 

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TheLion36 wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...
You should see at least part of him and her, and it should be clear what they're doing there and he is gently holding her face.

And i'll trying to figure the phrase

Nice screeny, very romantic! :D 


took me ages and some reload to get this shot done the way i wanted. But anyone with access to the toolset help me figure a certain line of dialogue between her and the Warden?

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MoSa09 wrote...
took me ages and some reload to get this shot done the way i wanted. But anyone with access to the toolset help me figure a certain line of dialogue between her and the Warden?


NOt sure if this is the one you're thinking of?
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Morrigan: I have allowed myself to become... too close. This is a weakness, for us both.
Warden: Love is not a weakness.
Morrigan: You are not listening to me. Do not be such a fool!

Morrigan: This is for your own good. I would not... I am not like other women. I am not worth your distraction. And you... are not worth mine.

Warden: You are worth my distraction.

Morrigan: I... you are impossible.

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Maybe it is because English is not my mother language but I have no problem with Meer. Don´t understand why so many say he´s wooden, at least with Paragons. Was also quite surprised when i saw he was Tug in Leliana´s Song.


Not too get too sidetracked but I will just say it's his inflection that always throws people off, if you choose a Paragon response or a Renegade response his inflection is 90% of the time exactly the same for both. I have the suspicion they're trying to force him to talk in an Omaha accent and it's just murdering the vocal inflection of the lines which makes them sound way worse than they are. It's possible that not being a native speaker it would be harder to pick up on what the proper inflection should be, or even the accent he's trying to speak in and the one he actually has.

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MoSa09 wrote...
took me ages and some reload to get this shot done the way i wanted. But anyone with access to the toolset help me figure a certain line of dialogue between her and the Warden?


There's also:  "You miserable selfish bastard, you will regret this... and so will I"... When you refuse to break up with her when she almost begs you for it hehe! :) 

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adneate wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Maybe it is because English is not my mother language but I have no problem with Meer. Don´t understand why so many say he´s wooden, at least with Paragons. Was also quite surprised when i saw he was Tug in Leliana´s Song.


Not too get too sidetracked but I will just say it's his inflection that always throws people off, if you choose a Paragon response or a Renegade response his inflection is 90% of the time exactly the same for both. I have the suspicion they're trying to force him to talk in an Omaha accent and it's just murdering the vocal inflection of the lines which makes them sound way worse than they are. It's possible that not being a native speaker it would be harder to pick up on what the proper inflection should be, or even the accent he's trying to speak in and the one he actually has.


Probably. While I recognize voiced emotions, I´m really bad at picking different accents, even in my own language if it isn´t very different.

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adneate wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Just watching the trailer for Shadow Broker made me cringe at Meer's delivery- the ME teams seems to know what the fans want but damn the writing and VO seemed stilted there.


I have no idea why they make Meer voice MShep like that, it's like they bring him in and say "Now look Mark we don't want you to act at all in fact just say everything as bland and as lifelessly as possible".


Whenever I hear HerpDerp Shepard I think of this video. :lol:

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Brockololly wrote...

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.


See, Morrigan knew what she was talking about. You will all regret having romanced her! :P

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Zjarcal wrote...
See, Morrigan knew what she was talking about. You will all regret having romanced her! :P

NEVER! Even if my warden dies by her hand he'll never regret all the wonderful moments he spent with her! Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

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Brockololly wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...
took me ages and some reload to get this shot done the way i wanted. But anyone with access to the toolset help me figure a certain line of dialogue between her and the Warden?


NOt sure if this is the one you're thinking of?
=============================================
Morrigan: I have allowed myself to become... too close. This is a weakness, for us both.
Warden: Love is not a weakness.
Morrigan: You are not listening to me. Do not be such a fool!

Morrigan: This is for your own good. I would not... I am not like other women. I am not worth your distraction. And you... are not worth mine.

Warden: You are worth my distraction.

Morrigan: I... you are impossible.

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.


@Brock: Awesome, thats exactly the one i was looking for. MY thanks!!!!

@MortalEngines: so, i now have the lines as well.

So maybe, right beside the kissing scene, the names Morrigan and Samuel. Maybe each one with a different font and color, so its color and font which one is saying what in the following dialogue?

  • I am not like other woman. I am not worth your distraction. (In Morrigan font and color)
  • You are worth my distraction. (In Samuel font and color)
  •  I... You are impossible. (In Morrigan font and color)
And thanks for making it, i hope you really enjoy using it and i am not just exploit your talent and generosity ?

Modifié par MoSa09, 01 septembre 2010 - 06:27 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Whenever I hear HerpDerp Shepard I think of this video.


I think Mass Effect would be much better if Shepard talked like this.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.


See, Morrigan knew what she was talking about. You will all regret having romanced her! :P


My Warden can always move on. See?


../../../da_game_screenshots/508000/507258/Aedan1_20015.jpg

(OK, that was created when my Warden somehow got stuck in his combat stance and his animations kinda got jacked up as a result. I just saw this and lol'd.)

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

My Warden can always move on. See?


../../../da_game_screenshots/508000/507258/Aedan1_20015.jpg

(OK, that was created when my Warden somehow got stuck in his combat stance and his animations kinda got jacked up as a result. I just saw this and lol'd.)


eww, i would have deleted that Warden and made an new one. Kneeling in front of that bi**h, even if just accidently... That one is tainted beyond Darkspawn blood, and there is no hope of Salvation. Never ^_^. Yeah, as you can see, i truly like Anora :P

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.


See, Morrigan knew what she was talking about. You will all regret having romanced her! :P


My Warden can always move on. See?


../../../da_game_screenshots/508000/507258/Aedan1_20015.jpg

(OK, that was created when my Warden somehow got stuck in his combat stance and his animations kinda got jacked up as a result. I just saw this and lol'd.)


who's the lady with the fine kaboos? can't be Anora, can it?

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../../../da_game_screenshots/508000/507258/Aedan1_20015.jpg

(OK, that was created when my Warden somehow got stuck in his combat stance and his animations kinda got jacked up as a result. I just saw this and lol'd.)

How fitting that he's wearing Cailan's armor. :D

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MoSa09 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...
took me ages and some reload to get this shot done the way i wanted. But anyone with access to the toolset help me figure a certain line of dialogue between her and the Warden?


NOt sure if this is the one you're thinking of?
=============================================
Morrigan: I have allowed myself to become... too close. This is a weakness, for us both.
Warden: Love is not a weakness.
Morrigan: You are not listening to me. Do not be such a fool!

Morrigan: This is for your own good. I would not... I am not like other women. I am not worth your distraction. And you... are not worth mine.

Warden: You are worth my distraction.

Morrigan: I... you are impossible.

Morrigan: Have it your way. But I will tell you truly now: You will regret it in the end.


@Brock: Awesome, thats exactly the one i was looking for. MY thanks!!!!

@MortalEngines: so, i now have the lines as well.

So maybe, right beside the kissing scene, the names Morrigan and Samuel. Maybe each one with a different font and color, so its color and font which one is saying what in the following dialogue?

  • I am not like other woman. I am not worth your distraction. (In Morrigan font and color)
  • You are worth my distraction. (In Samuel font and color)
  •  I... You are impossible. (In Morrigan font and color)
And thanks for making it, i hope you really enjoy using it and i am not just exploit your talent and generosity ?


You'll have to wait a while I'm afraid, just had a shower and I'm going to eat now, once that's all done I'll get to work on it.

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You'll have to wait a while I'm afraid, just had a shower and I'm going to eat now, once that's all done I'll get to work on it.


you're doing me a favor, i am happy you even doing this. So take your time, enjoy your meal, and IF you have the time and the will to work on it, do so. But please do not apologize for simply because i have to wait 5 minutes longer for you doing me a favor, friend.

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who's the lady with the fine kaboos? can't be Anora, can it?


Yes, that's Anora. I guess you've never played Awakening with her as Queen.

EDIT:

MortalEngines, we all worship the ground you walk on for making such amazing sigs. You're simply too nice to apologize to someone else for taking a bit longer to make the sig.

:wizard:

Modifié par Zjarcal, 01 septembre 2010 - 07:07 .