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[KnightofPhoenix]

adneate wrote...

Well it's a standard kind of disconnect between player and player character that can happen in sequels like DA2 and whatever they might be in the future. The player knows a character from before they have questions they want to ask them and expect to speak to them in a certain way. The player character however does not have any history with this character and would never ask those questions or treat that character that way. Instead of feeling like part of the story the player is frustrated and disconnected from it, they can't get to what they want and they blame the player character for the problem. Obviously for a story driven game having the player disconnected from their agency in the world is not the best thing for keeping them interested or involved.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. And I tried lol

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Laidlaw was very clear that Morrigan will be important in DA3. In fact you could say she might be a central character to the whole DA series, since even the events in DA2 are ment to set the groundwork for her return.

I can't remember Mr. Retcon himself saying this.

Anyway, than this is the final breaking point to me. Unless that is, they bring the Warden back.

To me (and this is just personal, so please don't tell me that is not part of the lore and so forth), she is tied to my Warden. I can't imagine another character gettin to know her again while my Warden, the one who introduced me to her, is gone. Sorry, but thats how it is. A DA 3 where she is plot central and i'll deal with her with a completele new one... Just one.

She is tied to a set of feelings that developed along with my Warden, and i can't brush them aside just pretending playing Jon Doe dealing with that strange woman in front of me. Its either Warden or a plain No.

To me, she is a Warden story. Period. I know that plotwise and lore-wise she is not, but then MY DA journey ends here. Simple as that.

He said that in a video interview for some french gaming magazine. The interview was done at Gamescon and was posted several times in Dragon Age 2 general forum and even here in this very topic.

Both Gaider and Laidlaw confirmed that Morrigan's story isn't done (Gaider openly said it won't be concluded in Witch Hunt).
Laidlaw told Brockololly that there will be mention of Morrigan in DA2 and later (in the interview I mentioned) went on to not only say that some of the events that'll transpire in DA2 will set the groundwork for Morrigan's return in DA3, but that she will be a very important character in that game (he didn't say whether she'll be a companion or an important npc).
With all we know so far we can say for certain that Morrigan and Flemeth and whatever is happening between them are central to the entire DA storyline, and their story is likely to be resolved in DA3 (Laidlaw said he can confirm that Bioware will make DA3 and that Morri will be in it. He wouldn't say if DA3 is the end of the franchise.).
We also know that after Witch Hunt we're unlikely to ever play as our Origins Warden again (even though Chris Priestley loves to tease us about the possibility of the Warden coming back in Dragon age 4, 5, 6, 10 or 167).

Personally, I'm happy to know that Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my Warden won't be there to see it. I also uderstand the concern that KoP and Mosa have laid down, but my belief is that Morrigan should be free to develop as a character regardless of the Wardens presence or of her relationship with him. As long as Witch Hunt provides me with a satisfying conclussion to their story, I'll be willing to close of the book on my Warden and fully focus on Morrigan and her destiny.

[Maconbar]

Let me preface things by agreeing that I can wait until the seventh to get more answers but I do like theorycrafting.



Near the end of DA:O BW introduced the DR option. At the time of the decision you could posit that 2 parallel universes formed. Because their is no canon surrounding this decision, I would use the term alternate. In 1 universe there is the OGB. In the other there is no OGB. It seems to me that these 2 universes would continue to diverge because difference at the initiation was significant.



You could argue that because DA:2 starts while DA:O is ongoing that it could be part of either of the 2 parallel universes because the divergence isn't substantial enough. In the OGB universe I would imagine that eventually the presence of this god is going to become apparent and start impacting things.



I am interested in seeing the upcoming DLC and hope that it provides some insight.



Any thoughts?

[wickedwizzard01]

Master Shiori wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Laidlaw was very clear that Morrigan will be important in DA3. In fact you could say she might be a central character to the whole DA series, since even the events in DA2 are ment to set the groundwork for her return.

I can't remember Mr. Retcon himself saying this.

Anyway, than this is the final breaking point to me. Unless that is, they bring the Warden back.

To me (and this is just personal, so please don't tell me that is not part of the lore and so forth), she is tied to my Warden. I can't imagine another character gettin to know her again while my Warden, the one who introduced me to her, is gone. Sorry, but thats how it is. A DA 3 where she is plot central and i'll deal with her with a completele new one... Just one.

She is tied to a set of feelings that developed along with my Warden, and i can't brush them aside just pretending playing Jon Doe dealing with that strange woman in front of me. Its either Warden or a plain No.

To me, she is a Warden story. Period. I know that plotwise and lore-wise she is not, but then MY DA journey ends here. Simple as that.

He said that in a video interview for some french gaming magazine. The interview was done at Gamescon and was posted several times in Dragon Age 2 general forum and even here in this very topic.

Both Gaider and Laidlaw confirmed that Morrigan's story isn't done (Gaider openly said it won't be concluded in Witch Hunt).
Laidlaw told Brockololly that there will be mention of Morrigan in DA2 and later (in the interview I mentioned) went on to not only say that some of the events that'll transpire in DA2 will set the groundwork for Morrigan's return in DA3, but that she will be a very important character in that game (he didn't say whether she'll be a companion or an important npc).
With all we know so far we can say for certain that Morrigan and Flemeth and whatever is happening between them are central to the entire DA storyline, and their story is likely to be resolved in DA3 (Laidlaw said he can confirm that Bioware will make DA3 and that Morri will be in it. He wouldn't say if DA3 is the end of the franchise.).
We also know that after Witch Hunt we're unlikely to ever play as our Origins Warden again (even though Chris Priestley loves to tease us about the possibility of the Warden coming back in Dragon age 4, 5, 6, 10 or 167).

Personally, I'm happy to know that Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my Warden won't be there to see it. I also uderstand the concern that KoP and Mosa have laid down, but my belief is that Morrigan should be free to develop as a character regardless of the Wardens presence or of her relationship with him. As long as Witch Hunt provides me with a satisfying conclussion to their story, I'll be willing to close of the book on my Warden and fully focus on Morrigan and her destiny.

Some part of me hates to see the warden go but if they do it like Shiori said im happy to see whats in store for Morrigan
(did not watch the trailer tho , but i don't want this DLC Spoiled )
guess ill stay off the bioware boards untill i played it

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 02 septembre 2010 - 04:04 .

[TheLion36]

Master Shiori wrote...
Personally, I'm happy to know that Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my Warden won't be there to see it.

Part of me feels that more Morrigan is always a good thing, another part of me is screaming that my Warden will be ultimately responsible for the OGB and possibly other choices Morrigan makes, therefore he should be the one faced with their results.
Makes you wonder if Morrigan is actually the protagonist and our Warden is just another companion, doesn't it? 

[KnightofPhoenix]

I wouldn't be terribly dissapointed if Morrigan does become a main character in the future. Indeed, she is the only character in Origins interesting enough to potentially outlive it. But I would find it somewhat difficult getting immersed in the same way.

But that's definately not the worst bioware / EA can do to the character.

[MoSa09]

Master Shiori wrote...

He said that in a video interview for some french gaming magazine. The interview was done at Gamescon and was posted several times in Dragon Age 2 general forum and even here in this very topic.

Both Gaider and Laidlaw confirmed that Morrigan's story isn't done (Gaider openly said it won't be concluded in Witch Hunt).
Laidlaw told Brockololly that there will be mention of Morrigan in DA2 and later (in the interview I mentioned) went on to not only say that some of the events that'll transpire in DA2 will set the groundwork for Morrigan's return in DA3, but that she will be a very important character in that game (he didn't say whether she'll be a companion or an important npc).
With all we know so far we can say for certain that Morrigan and Flemeth and whatever is happening between them are central to the entire DA storyline, and their story is likely to be resolved in DA3 (Laidlaw said he can confirm that Bioware will make DA3 and that Morri will be in it. He wouldn't say if DA3 is the end of the franchise.).
We also know that after Witch Hunt we're unlikely to ever play as our Origins Warden again (even though Chris Priestley loves to tease us about the possibility of the Warden coming back in Dragon age 4, 5, 6, 10 or 167).

Personally, I'm happy to know that Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my Warden won't be there to see it. I also uderstand the concern that KoP and Mosa have laid down, but my belief is that Morrigan should be free to develop as a character regardless of the Wardens presence or of her relationship with him. As long as Witch Hunt provides me with a satisfying conclussion to their story, I'll be willing to close of the book on my Warden and fully focus on Morrigan and her destiny.

This is bad news to me.

To borrow that phrase from KoP, i can only view her through a certain lense. And that is the "i love her and wanna comfort and protect her" lense of my Warden. Am i limiting myself? yes.

Dealing with her through another person would be just impossible, as those personal connections won't fade while the new hero has no such things (and is just the wrong person btw).

Unless they really have the option to bring the Warden back (more than unlikely, but then again, i'll invite the damn whole BW team over for dinner and a lot of Whiskey if they do), i just fail to connect to this anymore. All her appearances would feel wrong and lacking any engagement.

This would only work of they limit her appearance to a huge degee.

And her appearance in DA 2? I can't shake the feeling the Warden is just reduced to a mere footnote in the greater scheme of things while things beyond the players control (talk about taking agency away) decide how things will be. And that she will appear in DA 2 (unless that is while she is still part of the Wardens party) as well as her appearance in DA 3 also limits the possible happy conclusions Witch Hunt may offer.

Moreover, it seems the romance andd the oh-so-much-change we put her through that made a huge deal of the whole romance is nothing but something that gave her some thought along the way, but nothing that changed her permanently. And that, sorry to say, is again taking agency away from the player and reducing something important and meaning ful to next to nothing in the end.

So, the Jaheira ending is still possible, and i would love to get this. Its just the more we know, the more possible happy endings we can rule out, while all the negative endings all still remain.

I know this outlook might be a bit too gloomy in the end, but i am really not fond her return as an important character in the future as long as the one that is the mirror image of my feelings, my canon Warden, is not around

The only good thing is, this thread might not die out after Witch Hunt but will remain and so will of you people.

[wickedwizzard01]

TheLion36 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...
Personally, I'm happy to know that Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my Warden won't be there to see it.

Part of me feels that more Morrigan is always a good thing, another part of me is screaming that my Warden will be ultimately responsible for the OGB and possibly other choices Morrigan makes, therefore he should be the one faced with their results.
Makes you wonder if Morrigan is actually the protagonist and our Warden is just another companion, doesn't it? 

There's an interesting thought  

[wickedwizzard01]

Never played the FFgames but i think i have an idea of what you mean

[Master Shiori]

MoSa09 wrote...

And her appearance in DA 2?

I never said she'll appear in Dragon Age 2. I was referring to her being back in a big way in DA3.

So far we only know that Morrigan will be mentioned in DA2 and that the events there will set the stage for her return in the third game.

That ofc doesn't rule out the fact that we just might see her in DA2, but that will likely be in Lothering, while she's in the company of Alistair, Warden and the dog.

And Laidlaw was clear that her role in DA3 will be an important one, so you can rule out her just being a cameo. Whether she'll be a companion again or an important npc remains to be seen.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 02 septembre 2010 - 04:34 .

[MoSa09]

And the final companion for Witch Hunt is revealed. Suprise, surprise, its dog.



And the laziness by re-using well known settings in dlc knows no boundaries it seems. The description of dog for Witch Hunt is just the same as it was for dog on the original DAO page.

They could at least drop a note its your dog or change a few lanes to match Witch Hunt and the story progess, but no...

[Quinnzel]

I still have to wonder what that wee bugger did during the events of Awakening and Golems of Amgarrak.



Off making new Mabari's? Heh, an army of mini Barkspawns!

[Brockololly]

adneate wrote...

Well it's a standard kind of disconnect between player and player character that can happen in sequels like DA2 and whatever they might be in the future. The player knows a character from before they have questions they want to ask them and expect to speak to them in a certain way. The player character however does not have any history with this character and would never ask those questions or treat that character that way. Instead of feeling like part of the story the player is frustrated and disconnected from it, they can't get to what they want and they blame the player character for the problem. Obviously for a story driven game having the player disconnected from their agency in the world is not the best thing for keeping them interested or involved.

Exactly. Its the problem I had with KOTOR2 when you meet back up with Carth and Bastila. As a player, you want to ask them all sorts of questions, yet as a PC you're a stranger to them and that disconnect absolutely kills things for me.

Master Shiori wrote...

... whatever is happening between them are central to the entire DA storyline, and their story is likely to be  resolved in DA3 (Laidlaw said he can confirm that Bioware will make DA3  and that Morri will be in it. He wouldn't say if DA3 is the end of the  franchise.).

I remember the French interview, but don't recall him ever coming out and saying Morrigan would be back in DA3. Ah ha! Here is the interview and the relevent quote:

Sure, a lot of people were wondering , you know, would the Morrigan story be where we obviously picked up the story for DA2, and thats the thing. Its somewhat obvious to pick up there. So...by no means are we finished with Morrigan's story- thats been a consistent line I'm refusing to say anything more because its such a tease.

But to be fair, what we wanted to do was to take a look at not just building an army, not just fighting the Blight but to try and see what kind of impact one person could have on the world. Now Morrigan is one of those people. She certainly will have that kind of impact, but Hawke, the character that you play in Dragon Age 2, is going to cover an entire decade of history. And what we've argued is that by the time he is finished, or she, Hawke will have basically been involved in events that have changed the very face of Dragon Age. And I think what you might find is that some of those changes will set us up for future stories...including the Morrigan one.

So yeah, I just get the feeling Morrigan is going to be more of a Plot Element and less of a fleshed out character as DA moves along. And that Laidlaw quote irks me- yeah, the Morrigan story is a cliffhanger. You usually follow up your cliffhangers though and don't get all clever and try to bait people along thinking they'll stay interested while you do some Hawek side story. Thats what bugs me- if you're like me and primarily interested in DA now due to Morrigan, DA2 doesn't hold much interest. You're getting rid of the Warden, Morrigan, if she has any role at all, will be a cameo or references at best and you're tossing on all the other game changes.

So yeah, I didn't see that as a confirmation of Morrigan in DA3 necessarily, and plans change, but she'll likely show up there after Hawke screws over Thedas by bringing it to the brink of war with the Chantry collapsing. Way to go Hawke.

Master Shiori wrote...
Personally, I'm happy to know that  Morrigan will play an important role beyond Origins itself, even if my  Warden won't be there to see it. I also uderstand the concern that KoP  and Mosa have laid down, but my belief is that Morrigan should be free  to develop as a character regardless of the Wardens presence or of her  relationship with him. As long as Witch Hunt provides me with a satisfying conclussion to their story, I'll be willing to close of the  book on my Warden and fully focus on Morrigan and her destiny.

It all depends on how WItch Hunt deals with the Warden. If the Warden is left powerless like in the DR or they just shuffle him off to the side so Morrigan can get her Plot Hammer on, that won't sit well for me. I'm with MoSa and KoP on this- with Morrigan, should she show up in a future game with a new PC, it will be a huge disconnect, unless they explain why the Warden is not there or at least acknowledge somehow that the version of Morrigan that shows up in DA3 or beyond is the Morrigan we all know that romanced the Warden.Otherwise it just seems like nothing the Warden did mattered at all.  

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I wouldn't be terribly  dissapointed if Morrigan does become a main character in the future.  Indeed, she is the only character in Origins interesting enough to  potentially outlive it. But I would find it somewhat difficult getting immersed in the same way. 

If Morrigan were to show up again, the only way it wouldn't feel terribly immersion breaking and forced would be if its clearly the "romanced" version of Morrigan, however that may manifest. Maybe its when the new PC tries to flirt with Morrigan, she shuts him down saying she is taken already. I don't know. I just don't want any future cameos of old characters to be like Wynne in Awakening where they are totally alien and out of character.

More important to me than importing who is king or queen or whether I tainted the Ashes are the damn characters and how they developed through Origins. And thats the problem with a new PC- you likely don't see much of that continuity in character as any old caharacters returning won't know who the hell you are.  Even beyond the voiced PC and console centric changes with DA2, the notion of broken character continuity is what irritates me the most.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But that's definately not the worst bioware / EA can do to the character.

I think this would qualify as close to the worst (sorry!):

MoSa09 wrote...
So, the Jaheira ending is still possible, and i would love to get this. Its just the more we know, the more possible  happy endings we can rule out, while all the negative endings all still  remain.

I know this outlook might be a bit too gloomy in the  end, but i am really not fond her return as an important character in  the future as long as the one that is the mirror image of my feelings,  my canon Warden, is not around

Again, I'd prefer the Warden return if Morrigan returns. But we'll have to see what Witch Hunt has in store. My pessimistic side thinks that perhaps Morrigan left the Warden and didn't tell for a very good reason, as Gaider even said. But she didn't say why not because she feared the Warden would disapprove but maybe because whatever it is she is doing would  cause undue grief to the Warden, that maybe Morrigan is tied to some fate she doesn't want the Warden to know about. As has been said here many times though, with Morrigan the morose and tragic/sad/bittersweet endings right themselves, they're what everyone expects. So Laidlaw, here is your chance- you want to do something unexpected, give Morrigan and the Warden at least the possibility of a relatively happy ending.

MoSa09 wrote...
The only good thing is, this thread might not die out after Witch Hunt but will remain and so will of you people.

Indeed!

Modifié par Brockololly, 02 septembre 2010 - 05:52 .

[blademaster7]

Hey hey, having dog accompany you in your last journey is good news. But I agree with you about the laziness part.

If he does a happy bark while rolling around when he sees Morrigan, I'm happy. Or he can just do.... nothing... other than being there to fill the last slot. 

Modifié par blademaster7, 02 septembre 2010 - 05:37 .

[Swoo]

MariSkep wrote...
Sort of like in FFX where the character you play as is just a supporting role despite being the one telling the story.

Well, in most variable main PC RPG's the protagonist is actually a companion because they can go through a complete character arc compared to a MPC who is usually kept in a Hand of God role to push forward the story. Look at Origins, I would say Origins was really Alistair's story. As much as I love the Warden and his interactions with the people and the lands, and the fact that that at the end (s)he can be the one that really decides the fate of Ferelden, it's still Alistair who goes through the most growth and has the chance to finish or miserably fail on the Hero's Journey. It's the Rent-A-Hero games that allow you to put the main character on center stage because they can fill out A  to Z and you just click along the path. FFX was great because it didn't become obvious that *you* weren't the guy until a bit into the game and were instead playing the plucky sidekick. Was a nice change of pace ;D

I was a huge fan of the first three Final Fantasties (don't give me that non-American numbering rubbish, I had FF2 for Xmas, not 4 or 5 or whatever!), and liked seven alright enough, but ten really blew me away. The ending for ten also was one of the best game endings I've ever seen, not spoonfeeding you a happily ever after but at the last moment giving you that shot of hope and feeling that everything would end up all right in the end. Was especially well done with just how miserable the characters were treated and pushed through the ringer for the final third of the game. A great example of how to pull off 'Dark Fantasy' but still have a 'happy' ending. A lot of game companies should pay attention, if you truly wish to go the one and done but leave room for more, that is exactly how you do it.

Edit: And the difference between a game like FFX and the ending of Origins is that you can't advance the timeline by years, decades, or even centuries and not drop a mention of the quest and expect it to hold the same type of power and ending and leaving it up to the viewer. If FFX-II would have laid out the next fifty years of the land and never mentioned Tidus, it would have ruined the ending. Just an insert to stop what looked like an obvious hook for trolling.

So, back to Origins. If the comments linked by others are any indication, it sounds like Origins will be remembered in the meta-plot for Morrigan's beginning storyline, Flemeth get's her counterpoint in Tony Hawke 2, and the third one is when they merge and you start to see some payoff of the shroudy machinations working behind the curtain? Interesting.

I'm still excited for Witch Hunt, even if I have to put up with the Dalish in it. /shudder. I can't however see any way it ends well for the Warden if it's the end for him, but she still has a major part to play, but I'll take vaguely optimistic over 'And you never know...but it probably sucked.'

Modifié par Swoo, 02 septembre 2010 - 05:46 .

[Brockololly]

blademaster7 wrote...

Hey hey, having dog accompany you in your last journey is good news. But I agree with you about the laziness part.

If he does a happy bark while rolling around when he sees Morrigan, I'm happy. Or he can just do.... nothing... other than being there to fill the last slot. 

Well the thing I'm hopeful with DOg is that Sheryl Chee wrote the main story for the DLC and she "wrote" Dog in Origins so thats a plus. I just hope its actually our Dog and not some new Mabari.

Kind of curious how Dog will be leveled up though as he didn't exactly have a ton of abilities.


Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins? 

Do you think anything from Awakening will be referenced in Witch Hunt? Seeing as it looks like some of it may take place in the Dragon Bone Wastes, I'm wondering. Do you think Morrigan would have spared or killed the Architect?

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

I remember the French interview, but don't recall him ever coming out and saying Morrigan would be back in DA3. Ah ha! Here is the interview and the relevent quote:

Sure, a lot of people were wondering , you know, would the Morrigan story be where we obviously picked up the story for DA2, and thats the thing. Its somewhat obvious to pick up there. So...by no means are we finished with Morrigan's story- thats been a consistent line I'm refusing to say anything more because its such a tease.

But to be fair, what we wanted to do was to take a look at not just building an army, not just fighting the Blight but to try and see what kind of impact one person could have on the world. Now Morrigan is one of those people. She certainly will have that kind of impact, but Hawke, the character that you play in Dragon Age 2, is going to cover an entire decade of history. And what we've argued is that by the time he is finished, or she, Hawke will have basically been involved in events that have changed the very face of Dragon Age. And I think what you might find is that some of those changes will set us up for future stories...including the Morrigan one.

I know i might be riding a dead horse, but if we analyze this piece by piece, that doesn't necessarily have to say she will be a pivotal part of DA 3.

So...by no means are we finished with Morrigan's story- thats been a
consistent line I'm refusing to say anything more because its such a
tease.

Se, he could just be talking about Witch Hunt and the impact of Morrigans decision on the further development of the plot for the whole franchise

see what kind of impact one person could have on the world. Now
Morrigan is one of those people. She certainly will have that kind of
impact,

Does not mean she has to appear in person, or play a large role in it. Just assuming she would give birth to the OGB, that alone would make a great deal of influence on the whole world by one person without any need that Morri as the mother would need to re-appear ever again.

And I think what you might find is that some of those changes will set us up for future stories...including the Morrigan one

I talked about this idea more than once. It could be about the things she set in motion by the doings she dd in Origins and Witch Hunt. Even if she is not plot central or even part of the game, the consequences of her actions might spawn more than one game and future games might deal and influence the things in way or another without her being present. And he might also talk about Witch Hunt, as i am sure DA 2 will shed a different lights on the events of Witch Hunt.

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...
Exactly. Its the problem I had with KOTOR2 when you meet back up with Carth and Bastila. As a player, you want to ask them all sorts of questions, yet as a PC you're a stranger to them and that disconnect absolutely kills things for me.

The problem with that is it all hinges on what comes next. If they would have made KOTOR3 and explained what happened with Revan in the Sith Lands it would have had a chance to make TSL work as a perfectly fine bridge between stories. Not getting KOTOR3, which I think was because of TOR and not actual planned two and done on the franchise (I'm not sure on that fact though), then you have to take it on it's own and it kind of sucks. A lot like Mass Effect 2 where you meet the LI's. I took those scenes as more of a 'these people are still alive and have changed a bit, here, have a peek', without being defenitive endings. I expect them to come back in larger roles in ME3, and the changes in character personality and outlook won't be as jarring because you saw them evolving in the cameo's in ME2. If a third never came out though, that would just ruin the interactions from the first like TSL because you're sitting there going 'Hurm...well then.'

I think DA2 will tell a good story. I thought Awakening told a good story. Awakening was a horrible game though, and that's where my problems come with the sequel currently. I don't want to play The Two Towers hack and slash in Samurai Jack Ferelden, Warden or no Warden. But as I've said before, as down as I'm on it right now there is plenty of time and footage and features to come out that can swing a person one way or the other.

Anyways, less than a week until the DLC hit's and we have some new things to talk, ****, and speculate over. XD

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...
Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins?

I'd put money down that it won't matter if it's an Awakening save or an Origin's one. They'll just beef the monsters level up or down based on the save, but don't expect any new dialogue for using the expansion instead of the core game.

I could be wrong though, and it would be a pleasant surprise, but I doubt it.

[Quinnzel]

Brockololly wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

Hey hey, having dog accompany you in your last journey is good news. But I agree with you about the laziness part.

If he does a happy bark while rolling around when he sees Morrigan, I'm happy. Or he can just do.... nothing... other than being there to fill the last slot. 

Well the thing I'm hopeful with DOg is that Sheryl Chee wrote the main story for the DLC and she "wrote" Dog in Origins so thats a plus. I just hope its actually our Dog and not some new Mabari.

Kind of curious how Dog will be leveled up though as he didn't exactly have a ton of abilities.


Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins? 

Do you think anything from Awakening will be referenced in Witch Hunt? Seeing as it looks like some of it may take place in the Dragon Bone Wastes, I'm wondering. Do you think Morrigan would have spared or killed the Architect?

I hope not! I got Awakenings a few weeks ago and cant even progress with my canon Cousland rogue (stupid buggy expansion!) So Im holding off completing Awakenings until after Witch Hunt, as Ive heard you can get a buggy Morrigan epilogue at the end of Awakenings.

*Sighs* Ill probably just ignore the expansion and Import my Origins/GoA Wardens. None of my Wardens would have ever taken up the Warden Commander post anyways so I like to think the Orlesian Warden came and sorted the Ameranthine business out whilst Eamonne Cousland was out searching for Morri.

Hmm, I think she would have killed him. She seems to value those things worth preserving (Old God untainted soul, The Wardens) and from what I've heard the Architect wanted to bring peace by corrupting everyone to the taint? No clue.

[blademaster7]

Brockololly wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

Hey hey, having dog accompany you in your last journey is good news. But I agree with you about the laziness part.

If he does a happy bark while rolling around when he sees Morrigan, I'm happy. Or he can just do.... nothing... other than being there to fill the last slot. 

Well the thing I'm hopeful with DOg is that Sheryl Chee wrote the main story for the DLC and she "wrote" Dog in Origins so thats a plus. I just hope its actually our Dog and not some new Mabari.

Kind of curious how Dog will be leveled up though as he didn't exactly have a ton of abilities.


Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins? 

Do you think anything from Awakening will be referenced in Witch Hunt? Seeing as it looks like some of it may take place in the Dragon Bone Wastes, I'm wondering. Do you think Morrigan would have spared or killed the Architect?

I have no idea how is going to work. Now you got me curious. As far as desicions go... I wouldn't hold my breath.

For those who played GoA: Did the new levels/items/talents carry over as well?



Maybe something like this:

Warden: Hey, babe. How do you like my new armor?
Morrigan: You look ridiculous. Black vest and purple boots?
Warden: Yeah... Stupid high dragon didn't drop the boots.

Modifié par blademaster7, 02 septembre 2010 - 06:09 .

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Brockololly wrote...


Well the thing I'm hopeful with DOg is that Sheryl Chee wrote the main story for the DLC and she "wrote" Dog in Origins so thats a plus. I just hope its actually our Dog and not some new Mabari.

Kind of curious how Dog will be leveled up though as he didn't exactly have a ton of abilities.


Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins? 

Do you think anything from Awakening will be referenced in Witch Hunt? Seeing as it looks like some of it may take place in the Dragon Bone Wastes, I'm wondering. Do you think Morrigan would have spared or killed the Architect?

That is interesting about Dog. I could see them maybe previewing some DA2 stuff either new abilities for Dog, or some upgrading of abilities that they mentioned. For example maybe giving his Overwhelm a damage over time debuff after the overwhelm is over, or after the overwhelm the mob is stunned for x amount of seconds.

I would doubt that they will mention Awakening events specifically since we can choose which to import though I wouldn't be against more content or more fleshed out content, but I wouldn't count on seeing anything from Awakening being "important". The thought of Awakening did make me wonder about the Architect could he or his research be linked to the Striders maybe the Striders are adult forms of the Children?

As for what Morrigan would do. I'm not sure I think she would be interested in his research because like her he is trying to purify Old Gods from their taint, but that is about it. I think she would call him a fool for what he did with the Mother and that whole situation, so I'm thinking she would be neutral with maybe the thought of if he is a problem we could deal with him later.

[Brockololly]

I thought I read somewhere that even in Golems of Amgarrak they reference vaguely whether you killed the Architect or not- something like if you let him go, someone says how quiet the Deep Roads have been while if you kill him they say its as bad as usual.

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Brockololly wrote...


Ok, question for everyone: Should I send my current Cousland through to Awakening in preparation for Witch Hunt? Or should I save my Warden Commander armor and all and just import from Origins?

I would, if nothing else for the fact that it gets your DA fix before Witch Hunt is released, and you do gain a few new items and abilities that may become useful.