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#8451
MKDAWUSS

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adneate wrote...

I might go through with my female Warden Ama Amell first, her best friend was Morrigan in Origins and got Alistair to do the DR. Then I'll come here for the romance variant, I don't have a file and I doubt I could power through Origins before Tuesday . . .


You might be able to make it, but you'd have to start now and keep going until at least the Joining before taking your first break.

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Brockololly wrote...

The newest BioWare DA podcast  had Darrah and Laidlaw chatting with Victor Wachter. Its mostly more PR stuff about Hawke and DA2 but towards the end Laidlaw does mention Witch Hunt and his claim us poor saps wouldn't be disappointed (ML= Mike Laidlaw, VW= Victor Wachter):



ML: Oh, no problem, no problem. I mean I’ve got some “Witch Hunt” to get back to here, just playing through some final builds, because I  like to tease people with the fact that I can.

VW: Absolutely, absolutely. And in fact, just to heighten the tease, I think I’ll do that tomorrow too.

ML:
Good times, good times. Yes. I did make a promise that I think Morrigan fans would not be disappointed by what they would see coming, and from  their reaction, it looks like they’re not. So I’m very jazzed; I’m  really really glad we were able to do that. Dave really dove in and took up the Morrigan reins again, so I’m really looking forward to those  reactions when it comes out.

VW: Hopefully this’ll be a really nice conclusion to the Warden’s storyline.

ML:
Yeah, I think people are going to walk away with this one with, well, potentially a big smile, but a lot of that’s going to depend on you and Morrigan and your relationship. So it’ll vary.



Dare I say hope? I'm relucatant to hope for that elusive happy ending lest a giant rock crush everything....


Shouldn't someone be posting that Eomer shot about hope?

Though to be honest, I do think there's hope in what Laidlaw said.

#8453
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Must..resist..hoping...

On a serious note, if it does make me smile (and/or makes me shed a tear) I'll be mostly satisfied with varying degrees (depends on how much I smile and /or cry).

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Must..resist..hoping...
On a serious note, if it does make me smile (and/or makes me shed a tear) I'll be mostly satisfied with varying degrees (depends on how much I smile and /or cry).



Same here........This is for Morrigan and the Warden......www.youtube.com/watch

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Saying goodbye to the Warden.....is very hard, I really have never had such a character I really liked like the Warden. I guess he/she was of our own making and so we say goodbye to ourselfs in part. It will be bittersweet but I will never forget our Warden, they can never be replaced in DA.

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If the ending can be as good as the Throne of Bhaal ending cinematic , I'll be happy.

On one hand I'd like to believe Laidlaw but I don't want to get my hopes up as everything with Morrigan seems like its destined for a tragic ending to some degree. We'll find out soon enough- and maybe even hear more about Morrigan at PAX maybe this weekend when they have DA2 there?

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Brockololly wrote...

If the ending can be as good as the Throne of Bhaal ending cinematic , I'll be happy.
On one hand I'd like to believe Laidlaw but I don't want to get my hopes up as everything with Morrigan seems like its destined for a tragic ending to some degree. We'll find out soon enough- and maybe even hear more about Morrigan at PAX maybe this weekend when they have DA2 there?

Yeah, I'm surprised Gaider's going to be there. Morrigan's writer, a couple of days before Witch Hunt comes out... If I were him I'd be in a bomb shelter until after it's out.

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SirOccam wrote...
Yeah, I'm surprised Gaider's going to be there. Morrigan's writer, a couple of days before Witch Hunt comes out... If I were him I'd be in a bomb shelter until after it's out.

Perhaps he plans to enter his bomb shelter right AFTER it comes out! ;) hehe

Modifié par TheLion36, 03 septembre 2010 - 07:49 .


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Brockololly wrote...

The newest BioWare DA podcast  had Darrah and Laidlaw chatting with Victor Wachter. Its mostly more PR stuff about Hawke and DA2 but towards the end Laidlaw does mention Witch Hunt and his claim us poor saps wouldn't be disappointed (ML= Mike Laidlaw, VW= Victor Wachter):



ML: Oh, no problem, no problem. I mean I’ve got some “Witch Hunt” to get back to here, just playing through some final builds, because I  like to tease people with the fact that I can.

VW: Absolutely, absolutely. And in fact, just to heighten the tease, I think I’ll do that tomorrow too.

ML:
Good times, good times. Yes. I did make a promise that I think Morrigan fans would not be disappointed by what they would see coming, and from  their reaction, it looks like they’re not. So I’m very jazzed; I’m  really really glad we were able to do that. Dave really dove in and took up the Morrigan reins again, so I’m really looking forward to those  reactions when it comes out.

VW: Hopefully this’ll be a really nice conclusion to the Warden’s storyline.

ML:
Yeah, I think people are going to walk away with this one with, well, potentially a big smile, but a lot of that’s going to depend on you and Morrigan and your relationship. So it’ll vary.



Dare I say hope? I'm relucatant to hope for that elusive happy ending lest a giant rock crush everything....


My hope meter just skyrocketed. :o

Seriously though, I really REALLY hope they don't give us another "doom and gloom" ending when it comes to Warden and Morrigan. We were only ones to get shafted with our romance in Origins, and after all this waiting to see Morrigan again I truly cannot stand another tragedy.

So, here's to hoping that Laidlaw isn't just pumping up our hopes.

EDIT:

Did anyone else take Laidlaw's last sentence as confirmation that there will be different endings based on your relationship with Morrigan?

Modifié par Master Shiori, 03 septembre 2010 - 08:23 .


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Master Shiori wrote...
Did anyone else take Laidlaw's last sentence as confirmation that there will be different endings based on your relationship with Morrigan?

That's how I understood it yes... :) 

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another question about about Morrigan romance...i have the ring..but when i am captured she dosen;t say she can track me down like i heard she will...or she needs to be in the party when i rescue Anora and meet Cauthrien ?

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She needs to be in the party. There is also a bug in Morrigan's dialogue where she is supposed to give the ring but she doesn't. If you have Terra's mod you should be fine.

Modifié par blademaster7, 03 septembre 2010 - 11:07 .


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i have the ring...though i don't remember ever having the conversation for it...:D...as i said pages earlier...either a bug or a bad memory...

well as long as i get the ring ending i will be happy

#8464
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TheLion36 wrote...

SirOccam wrote...
Yeah, I'm surprised Gaider's going to be there. Morrigan's writer, a couple of days before Witch Hunt comes out... If I were him I'd be in a bomb shelter until after it's out.

Perhaps he plans to enter his bomb shelter right AFTER it comes out! ;) hehe


Ha- yeah, they enter the safe room after Witch Hunt is released, should it simply amount to another kick in the balls for the Morrigan romancing Wardens.

But anyone going to PAX should grill Gaider on Morrigan related stuff- let him know we want the Warden and Morrigan back eventually!:wizard:

Master Shiori wrote...
My hope meter just skyrocketed. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

Seriously though, I really REALLY hope they don't give us another "doom and
gloom" ending when it comes to Warden and Morrigan. We were only ones to get shafted with our romance in Origins, and after all this waiting to  see Morrigan again I truly cannot stand another tragedy.

So, here's to hoping that Laidlaw isn't just pumping up our hopes.

EDIT:
Did anyone else take Laidlaw's last sentence as confirmation that there  will be different endings based on your relationship with Morrigan?


I really hope we aren't getting played, Shiori. I'll blame Laidlaw if Witch Hunt doesn't have at least the option for a satisfactory Morrigan romance conclusion. And if it does end up disappointing, it'll negatively color anything else Laidlaw says about how amazing DA2 is....but I'm cautiously hopeful.

It sure sounded to me that there may be different outcomes and endings based on your relationship with Morrigan. I just hope he wasn't referencing maybe the people that hate Morrigan will walk away with a big smile while us poor saps who romanced her get the tragic ending.

*sigh* I 'm hopeful again that Witch Hunt won't dissapoint. I'm hoping this DLC is like the one DLC they had planned from the start and really is the same quality as Origins and not Darkspawn Chronicles.

We should be seeing some previews on gaming sites today for Witch Hunt so keep an eye out for those. And of course DA2 is at PAX today through the weekend.

Modifié par Brockololly, 03 septembre 2010 - 11:29 .


#8465
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I think if you had one that has been on the side of Morrigan and Warden fans, it's MIke, I don't think he would say that if we are not to have a happy end, I will help her in what she needs and protect her from Flemeth and Hawke, thats what is coming after DA2.

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All I can say is that she'll be dead & or buried in the witch hunt dlc, that's if she doesn't burn at the stake first.Posted Image

Modifié par jsachun, 03 septembre 2010 - 12:26 .


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So I am back. And feeling really tired to go backread. Anyone care to summarize Morrigan news for me? XD

#8468
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ximena wrote...

So I am back. And feeling really tired to
go backread. Anyone care to summarize Morrigan news for me? XD


It's been confirmed that Morrigan romance will be recognized in Witch Hunt despite all the glitches associated with it. Mike Laidlaw and Victor Wachter are making pretty ambitious promises regarding how Witch Hunt ends, some of us rekindled hope while others, such as myself, are still skeptical at such a boast.

I hope they realize if they screw this up and not keep their boastful words and big promises, many fans won't stick around for Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par Gennojo Ryuga, 03 septembre 2010 - 01:12 .


#8469
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ximena wrote...

So I am back. And feeling really tired to go backread. Anyone care to summarize Morrigan news for me? XD


Welcome back Ximena. :)

I hope you had a good time.

#8470
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ximena wrote...

So I am back. And feeling really tired to go backread. Anyone care to summarize Morrigan news for me? XD


Pretty much, check out the Witch Hunt page- its got all 3 companions on there now (Dog!) and its got the trailer for the DLC.

I posted a bunch of speculation  on the DLC here and here... albeit some is my regular doom and gloom  stuff:whistle:

Then BioWare posted their BioWare DA podcast  where Victor Wachter talked to Mark Darrah (exec producer) about DA2 and then Laidlaw. Towards the end, Laidlaw mentions Witch Hunt and how he promised Morrigan fans wouldn't be disappointed. Here is the quote from the podcast:

ML: Oh, no problem, no problem. I mean I’ve got some “Witch Hunt” to get back to here, just playing through some final builds, because I  like to tease people with the fact that I can.

VW: Absolutely, absolutely. And in fact, just to heighten the tease, I think I’ll do that tomorrow too.

ML: Good times, good times. Yes. I did make a promise that I think  Morrigan fans would not be disappointed by what they would see coming,  and from  their reaction, it looks like they’re not. So I’m very jazzed; I’m  really really glad we were able to do that. Dave really dove in  and took up the Morrigan reins again, so I’m really looking forward to  those  reactions when it comes out.

VW: Hopefully this’ll be a really nice conclusion to the Warden’s storyline.

ML:Yeah, I think people are going to walk away with this one with, well,  potentially a big smile, but a lot of that’s going to depend on you and  Morrigan and your relationship. So it’ll vary.


So that seems encouraging...

And then Fernando Melo responded to the concerns that the Morrigan romance import may be messed up with the flags and all in this post:

Fernando Melo wrote...

Speaking with the designers for WH, amongst many other choices, it will recognize and respond to both of  the romance active and still in love flags. I believe the issue with  Awakening was that it only responded to one of those, so you could get  into a bit of a catch-22 where you either missed a part of the Origins  epilogue, or the Awakening one depending on how you ended things in  Origins.



So yeah, thats all you missed I think!:wizard:

Modifié par Brockololly, 03 septembre 2010 - 03:12 .


#8471
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If those 3 listed under characters are companions for Witch Hunt, does that mean Morrigan won't be a party member during the campaign? That's a shame.

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Thanks for the update guys.



As for her look after she touched the image, it looks more like she's sad/worried to me.



And as for Posted Image:



I got the whole Fade vibe from it with the color scheme and the lighting.

#8473
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Yeah, those mirrors don't seem to be up to any good...I'm guessing there is some connection to the Fade with them, what with Morrigan's obsession with the Old Gods and all.



But I'm pretty sure that scene is located in Drake's Fall, the spot in Awakening where you fight the Mother.

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philiposophy wrote...

If those 3 listed under characters are companions for Witch Hunt, does that mean Morrigan won't be a party member during the campaign? That's a shame.


Unless she is some surprise companion, I'm guessing she won't, which is a shame. My guess is we'll only really interact with her towards the end of the DLC, but I hope I'm wrong in that regard. I'd just hate to have her role in this like the Architect in Awakening where she is just in it for a couple scenes heaped with exposition and little character development.

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What's the thread etiquette for Tuesday? Discuss the DLC in a separate thread specifically marked for it or do people want to pool their varying DLC experiences (spoilers and all) in here?