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[soundchaser721]

So has anyone had a successful awakening import? Right now I've only heard of unbugged origins imports, and I don't want to just sort of ignore my bugged GoA/Awakening canon save

[Addai]

My elf mage who wasn't bugged was an Awakening import.

[soundchaser721]

Addai67 wrote...

My elf mage who wasn't bugged was an Awakening import.

Thats good news, what origins save did you import into awakening? I used a post-game save, the one where it takes place after the credits but before the archdemon fight supposedly because i gave morrigan the gold mirror to get the relationship back to love.

[Muddle]

Mine wasn't bugged and the character was used in Awakening and GOA. The only crash was because of patch 1.04.

[Nerevar-as]

nomadicmouse wrote...

Mine wasn't bugged and the character was used in Awakening and GOA. The only crash was because of patch 1.04.

Same here but without crashing.

[Addai]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

My elf mage who wasn't bugged was an Awakening import.

Thats good news, what origins save did you import into awakening? I used a post-game save, the one where it takes place after the credits but before the archdemon fight supposedly because i gave morrigan the gold mirror to get the relationship back to love.

That I can't tell you.  It was quite a while ago.  Edit:  I would have guessed that it was a post-campaign save, since I usually go around and strip everyone in camp before I import to Awakening, but I'm not sure if I did on her or not.

Modifié par Addai67, 08 septembre 2010 - 05:53 .

[Faroth]

I did check my post game save at camp, thinking perhaps without the mirror the DLC gifts would work to get her approval back to love. No need, she's totally maxed out head over heels "get away from me and take this weakness with you" in love with my Warden.



Still bugged on the ritual reference, though

[Jenaimarre]

Addai67 wrote...

soundchaser721 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

My elf mage who wasn't bugged was an Awakening import.

Thats good news, what origins save did you import into awakening? I used a post-game save, the one where it takes place after the credits but before the archdemon fight supposedly because i gave morrigan the gold mirror to get the relationship back to love.

That I can't tell you.  It was quite a while ago.  Edit:  I would have guessed that it was a post-campaign save, since I usually go around and strip everyone in camp before I import to Awakening, but I'm not sure if I did on her or not.

What if we talk to her about the ritual, THEN give her the golden mirror before the archdemon battle. That SHOULD work right?

[soundchaser721]

Jenaimarre wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

soundchaser721 wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

My elf mage who wasn't bugged was an Awakening import.

Thats good news, what origins save did you import into awakening? I used a post-game save, the one where it takes place after the credits but before the archdemon fight supposedly because i gave morrigan the gold mirror to get the relationship back to love.

That I can't tell you.  It was quite a while ago.  Edit:  I would have guessed that it was a post-campaign save, since I usually go around and strip everyone in camp before I import to Awakening, but I'm not sure if I did on her or not.

What if we talk to her about the ritual, THEN give her the golden mirror before the archdemon battle. That SHOULD work right?

I tried that just after the whole goodbye speeches thing at the gates of denerim. If you give the mirror to her before fighting the arch demon it just initiates the "You have something to say do you?" dialogue.

[Terra_Ex]

blademaster7 wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...

Disappointing things:

Most
disappointing for me is that I doubt the choices that you make will have any impact on future games as there is no end save for Witch Hunt and the important choices come right at the end. From the looks of the log files no flags seem to get set for how you deal with Morrigan so it's doubtful how the Warden closes things with her will play any kind of role in the future, which is sad as a warden that went into the mirror world with her thereby entangling his fate with her's could make for a interesting element in a future game.

They could just pick a default for every one. Romancing Wardens followed her into the mirror, friends let her go and hostiles killed her. You know, that kind of thing.

Yeah, I was thinking the same which would be fine from my perspective, but I'm sure people would complain if they went with that implementation.

Brockololly wrote...
I was giddy with excitement when Ariane mentioned the Warden fiddling with the ring- that was fantastic. Maybe there is dialogue and I didn't get it, but when talking to Morrigan can you reference the whole sorrow and regret epilogue at all?

A lot of things we mentioned would be nice to have happen in our "dream game" actually ended up implemented to some extent, which was gratifying though that ending definitely leaves me wanting more... in a future game:P

Brockololly wrote...
They could have given more answers. If you didn't romance Morrigan and were mostly expecting answers, you really don't get much that you didn't know or couldn't piece together already from Origins. EVen just a bit more in terms of Morrigan's plans or what she knows would have been welcome, expecially if you're her friend or lover. I mean, hell, if you're going into Mirror World with her, you'll no doubt find out soon enough right? So if she is going to let you follow along why not give your Warden a primer on what she knows? Because she very clearly knows a whole hell of a lot more than she is telling.

Morrigan has always required a bit of a leap of faith - the grimoires and request to slay Flemeth (although it's fairly obvious that Flemeth isn't all she seems from your first encounter.) I'll explain away some of that as stuff that happens off camera after entering the mirror. There was quite a bit of stuff to "big up" Flemeth in line with her more prominent role in DA2, so hopefully after that the plot will be include Morri.

Brockololly wrote...
I won't spoil the mood, but I can already think of a million and one ways we can still get Gaider'd whenever Morrigan's story resumes....

...

If thats the case and we can't import from Witch Hunt into DA2, thats bad. It seems like a farily big deal how you dealt with Morrigan as that could influence how she views things (romanced Morrigan with Warden, friendly Morrigan on her own, or gut stabbed Morrigan all hostile). I'm hoping we hear about this sometime soon and about the import feature for DA2 in general. Given all the headaches, I'm hoping they give it some transparency so we don't have to trudge through the whole game only to get dozens of hours in to realize the import borked our decisions.

Well, this has been my point for a while now, yes for a romancing warden you now have a very promising ending. Unlike Alistair/Leli/Zevran though Morrigan's story is far from complete and thus we can't consider the matter closed until morri's story is done.

Whether bioware will consider a romancing wardens interactions as important enough to warrant bringing him back in some capacity I can't say (though this has renewed my faith somewhat.) If Morrigan returns and the romancing warden does not... well depending on how its handled we're kind of back to square one. The wardenxmorri arc just fits so well with the storyline that I'd like to see it continue to run even if the warden isn't the protagonist.

Brockololly wrote...
Thats exactly what I was thinking- I was reminded of certain obsessive Morrigan haters on the forum or one of the threads that came out shortly after Origins was released which had people raging about why they couldn't kill Morrigan in the DR scene. I think this was BioWare just throwing a bone to them- but I'll be damned if Morrigan is dead from that. If anything, that scene just plays out very odd and I hope a pissed off super Morrigan comes back from the MIrror World to kill the Wardens that did that

Completely agree, she falls back into the mirror and undoubtedly survives. Despite my loathing of said scene, that too could have interesting ramifications as you've touched upon. Myself though, I don't see any events that Morrigan actively participates in during the game that warrant that. I mean, I dislike characters in other games but that doesn't necessarily mean I want to attack/kill them on sight, but simple minds...

Brockololly wrote...
Well, here is my speculation of getting Gaider'd in DA3 or whenever Morrigan returns from the Mirror World.

You figure by the end of DA2, it will be about 10 years post Origins or about 8 years post Witch Hunt.  Morrigan says we're going somewhere even beyond the Fade, somewhere the Old God Boy can get his Jedi training and where Morrigan has the time to build up her power for what is to come. And she mentions it may not be wise for the Warden to follow along.

So, one possibility is that by the time DA3 comes out, at least 8 years will have passed. Thats a decently long time. And 8 years in bizzaro Mirror World? Who knows what that will do to a person? What I'm worried is that come DA3 time, we'll be a new PC yet again and at some point we get involved with Flemeth and Morrigan. Except maybe we pick up a mysterious companion along the way and *big reveal* its actually some sort of super powered Gandalf the White  type Morrigan reborn. And the mystery/character development would be unraveling what went on in the Mirror World  and what happened to the Warden that followed her in. And with their new art style would give them an excuse to radically change up her look, nevermind that she's a shapeshifter.  

But ideally, Morrigan and the Warden went into Mirror World together and ideally they'll walk out together (with Old God Boy?)

Well, I hope what Gaider mentioned during one of the PAX sessions will bear some fruit for us, maybe the warden will be back, maybe not. Probably best not to build up a "ideal situation" in our minds though, we know what happened last time. But with the way that WH ends I really hope that BW add a final-save to WH as disregarding the events with Morrigan at the end kind of makes the whole thing pointless. A final save would at least give some hope as the way it stands its more or less standalone. Though we really shouldn't start up a new hope train, brock. In fact, I think we've been semi-Gaider'd as the MorrixWarden is a potential never ending story...

Jenaimarre wrote...

What if we talk to her about the ritual, THEN give her the golden mirror before the archdemon battle. That SHOULD work right?

Yes, that would work, though modding would be a wiser idea if you're on pc, not that I'm biased or anything. You
won't notice a difference (except on the affection bar) since morri's
dialogue is locked into "you have something to say" until you finish
denerim.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:17 .

[Bruddajakka]

Excellent mod by the way. But I was wondering if there was a bug with the Good side dialog because it seems to randomly disappear. And as far as bugs go this one is more annoying then game breaking. It's easy enough to deal with but annoying since you have to do all your pre-Awakening prep work before the end of Origins now.

[Maconbar]

PureMethodActor wrote...

Hey, just a general theory question... I'm just gauging opinions here:

Does anyone agree with me on these thoughts post-WH?
-That Flemeth may be the main enemy of the DA franchise and will probably be manipulating events in the Free Marches and Hawke without his/her knowledge
-That the OGB is going to be prepared to eventually fight Flemeth and her influence in Thedas, and will be a companion who will serve a role much similar to Martin in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, minus a sacrifice much like what Martin did

But OGB isn't canon so I don't have any idea how BW will set that up.

[Aphetto_LC]

It is not that hard to incorporate a companion with the OGB background. All one would need to do is take one companion and give them 2 different backstories and based on what is imported ( /headsmack), you get set character.

[KDawg0713]

Question with *SPOLERS*

Okay, I romanced Morrigan, and did the DR. Obviously I got a bugged WH and she only remembered the romance, but to me I still got a good ending, as I followed her into the mirror (Did I bring dog?) but when I watched a video on youtube where she remembered the DR and apparently romanced the character, he wasnt allowed to follow her.

So my question is, for someone who romanced her and got her to remember the DR, can you still follow her into the mirror? I loved the ending for my warden that I got, by I am afraid that if/when the bug is finally patched that she won't let me follow her again.

EDIT: Okay, watched it again, I guess he didn't ask to follow but my question still stands.

Modifié par KDawg0713, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:19 .

[Aphetto_LC]

KDawg0713 wrote...

Question with *SPOLERS*

Okay, I romanced Morrigan, and did the DR. Obviously I got a bugged WH and she only remembered the romance, but to me I still got a good ending, as I followed her into the mirror (Did I bring dog?) but when I watched a video on youtube where she remembered the DR and apparently romanced the character, he wasnt allowed to follow her.

So my question is, for someone who romanced her and got her to remember the DR, can you still follow her into the mirror? I loved the ending for my warden that I got, by I am afraid that if/when the bug is finally patched that she won't let me follow her again.

EDIT: Okay, watched it again, I guess he didn't ask to follow but my question still stands.

I am bugged too, but I believe you can follow her if you choose to while not getting the bug.

[soundchaser721]

I was bugged, and i followed her into the mirror. Honestly its not a bad ending at all, but its just the fact that she didn't acknowledge that I did the DR that really sucked considering it was one of the biggest decisions in Origins plus who knows what kind of impact its gonna have in the future

[blademaster7]

If you romanced her you can follow her into the mirror if you choose to do so. It doesn't matter whether you did the DR or not, she'll still accept you. So the answer is yes.

[MKDAWUSS]

I was content with the kiss goodbye as she headed off to the other side of the mirror. The whole lack of a post-game save really complicates things IMO. Trip through mirror or not, it just feels like the Warden's storyline potential is far from over...

[soundchaser721]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I was content with the kiss goodbye as she headed off to the other side of the mirror. The whole lack of a post-game save really complicates things IMO. Trip through mirror or not, it just feels like the Warden's storyline potential is far from over...

Yeah awakening didn't have a post-game save either so i have no idea how they're going to handle all this stuff importing into dragon age 2. They claim the stuff you did in Awakening and the DLC's mattered and will show up but i have no idea how they'll go about doing it. I just hope they get this bug fixed soon so i can start organizing my saves.

Modifié par soundchaser721, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .

[Aphetto_LC]

soundchaser721 wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I was content with the kiss goodbye as she headed off to the other side of the mirror. The whole lack of a post-game save really complicates things IMO. Trip through mirror or not, it just feels like the Warden's storyline potential is far from over...

Yeah awakening didn't have a post-game save either so i have no idea how they're going to handle all this stuff importing into dragon age 2. They claim the stuff you did in Awakening and the DLC's mattered and will show up but i have no idea how they'll go about doing it. I just hope they get this bug fixed soon so i can start organizing my saves.

You can save right before you fight mother and since you have to kill her, a post-game save is not all that important.

Modifié par Aphetto_LC, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:40 .

[GardenSnake]

Brockololly wrote...

I really loved this DLC, it just felt like it could have been 20X better than Awakening had it been given an expack. Chee did a great job writing Ariane and Finn- in the 1 hour 45 minutes I played Witch Hunt, I liked Finn and Ariane more than any of the Awakening companions. Lore wise, story wise, dialogue wise it was awesome and totally worth the $7. It has loads more continuity than Awakening.

The bug at the end is a killer though. I'm going to go through again with my Warden from Awakening and see if the ending is any different. I really hope BioWare gets on this though. I thought for sure at the beginning when you can clearly tell Ariane about your relationship with Morrigan we wouldn't have any stupid romance related bugs. Guess not.

^ This. Finn and Ariane were more interesting than anyone from Awakening, and Finn's little story about Anders was great. I found myself laughing at some of his lines even. And dog's back  and he's a father! As long as there are no OGP's involed (Old god puppies) I'm happy for him. It made me smile when Morri played with him while my Warden was walking up. Everything to that point was great but then the last convo came up...... The bug kind of killed it, I got all the child options about asking how it was (It's a boy!), but she seemed to not remember that night that was supposed to be a night to remember . I'll play it again with my mage who romanced her but didn't do the DR, see where that leads. Overall it's a great dlc, but falls flat on it's face at the most important part.

I'm with Brock again on this one, if longer this would have been amazing.

[SnakeHelah]

**Spoilers***

As far as I know there are 3 endings 

1.You follow Morrigan into the Mirror if you romanced her, if you do the DR or not doesn't matter. (Romance ending)
2. You leave her alone, she leaves you a gift and goes through the mirror. (Friendship ending)
3. You kill? her, well not really kill, if anyone didn't watch it, you kinda stab her but she still falls into the mirror so I am guessing she didn't die. Well either way, cliffhanger... (Hate ending)

Apparently they all leave us at cliffhangers... And I think they said "your questions answered finally in this DLC" Not really, even much of a bigger cliffhanger occurred. The only exception is for the ones that romanced her, I think they're satisfied about how it ended. For now... You know, you never know what Gaider has in store for later...

Modifié par SnakeHelah, 08 septembre 2010 - 08:51 .

[Monica21]

blademaster7 wrote...

If you romanced her you can follow her into the mirror if you choose to do so. It doesn't matter whether you did the DR or not, she'll still accept you. So the answer is yes.

I wish that the option to follow her was there for a female Warden who had a friendly relationship. Like someone else said, your Warden disappears at some point anyway, so why not head off with Morrigan? The friendship dialogue is very touching.