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[Brockololly]

Terra_Ex wrote...
I was thinking the same thing, as I see it if they stick rigidly to this "there is no canon" for every single choice you soon end up with a great deal of weak plot threads with poor resolution - ala Mass Effect 2's email rewards. You end up with lots of faux-choices and have to employ protagonist jumping to avoid having to deal with the messy web you created.

Edit: and it appears I've echoed Barbarossa's thoughts on the issue.

Exactly- I'd gladly sacrifice a little choice if it means BioWare can tell a stronger story in the future. Its stuff like being able to kill off potential companions like Zevran, Leliana and so on that I think are worthless choices- all that basicaly shows you is that that character is likley not going to be important in the future because BioWare has never put resources into big diverging plot lines based on player choice from game to game.

So if it means giving Plot Armor to certain characters thats fine, IMO. Player choice is only a good thing if BioWare is willing to put the resources into the choiecs such that they actually play a major role in the future. While not all choices need to have huge consequences, stuff like the Old God Baby or the fate of Morrigan and the Warden and the Dark Ritual can't be brushed aside or written off- those are BIG choices that should have an impact on Thedas at large, not just Ferelden.

Gaider has said that the DR is the biggest choice from Origins, but I'm just worried we'll end up with the ME style consequences of BIG choices- killed Ashley or Kaiden? Doesn't matter because their appearance in ME2 uses the EXACT same dialogue. Killed the council? DOesn't really matter- you get slightly different dialogue, but it makes no difference plot wise. Killed Wrex? You just get a slightly different Krogan ruler who largely recycles the same dialogue and again, it makes no difference to the overall narrative.

The point with a BIG choice like the DR is that it should have an equally BIG consequence- one that branches the story depending on your choice. And if BioWare can't handle creating a meaningful consequence for their BIG choice moments, then they shouldn't give you the choice in the first place.

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...
I was thinking the same thing, as I see it if they stick rigidly to this "there is no canon" for every single choice you soon end up with a great deal of weak plot threads with poor resolution - ala Mass Effect 2's email rewards. You end up with lots of faux-choices and have to employ protagonist jumping to avoid having to deal with the messy web you created.

Edit: and it appears I've echoed Barbarossa's thoughts on the issue.

Exactly- I'd gladly sacrifice a little choice if it means BioWare can tell a stronger story in the future. Its stuff like being able to kill off potential companions like Zevran, Leliana and so on that I think are worthless choices- all that basicaly shows you is that that character is likley not going to be important in the future because BioWare has never put resources into big diverging plot lines based on player choice from game to game.

So if it means giving Plot Armor to certain characters thats fine, IMO. Player choice is only a good thing if BioWare is willing to put the resources into the choiecs such that they actually play a major role in the future. While not all choices need to have huge consequences, stuff like the Old God Baby or the fate of Morrigan and the Warden and the Dark Ritual can't be brushed aside or written off- those are BIG choices that should have an impact on Thedas at large, not just Ferelden.

Gaider has said that the DR is the biggest choice from Origins, but I'm just worried we'll end up with the ME style consequences of BIG choices- killed Ashley or Kaiden? Doesn't matter because their appearance in ME2 uses the EXACT same dialogue. Killed the council? DOesn't really matter- you get slightly different dialogue, but it makes no difference plot wise. Killed Wrex? You just get a slightly different Krogan ruler who largely recycles the same dialogue and again, it makes no difference to the overall narrative.

The point with a BIG choice like the DR is that it should have an equally BIG consequence- one that branches the story depending on your choice. And if BioWare can't handle creating a meaningful consequence for their BIG choice moments, then they shouldn't give you the choice in the first place.

The thing with the DR is that while it is the biggest decision in the game, its also optional but IMO that doesn't mean that bioware has the right to half ass the impact of it and diminish its importance in the future of the series. Also i hope that they don't bring back certain characters for some small pointless role just because some of them were killable. I also think that the fact that the warden could have died at the end of Origins was part of the reason to bring Hawke into picture and also because its way easier to just start all over with a new protagonist than to try and connect the possible warden endings with a true sequel. Bioware needs to make decisions count and not just write them off as an insignificant event.

[GDuqueEstrada]

Brockololly wrote...

Edit: And is anyone else sort of disappointed that the Old God Baby is a boy? At the very least that tosses out all those theories that Flemeth wanted to steal the Old God Baby's body- unless Flemeth wants to be a man

I'm not surprise that the baby is a boy since Urthemiel, according to the codex, is considered to be a male Old God.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...


The fact that Warden could be dead is worrisome, but you figure they handled it already in Witch Hunt by just throwing in the Orlesian Warden. But yeah, it would be terrible if it goes the ME route of generic scenes for those who had their Warden die or something. If you're going to offer up a big choice like the DR and let the Warden follow Morrigan through the mirror, that should be carried through sufficiently in any sequel where Morrigan may play a role. The very fact that they made Witch Hunt as mostly devoted to the Morrigan romance gives me hope that they won't just abandon the Warden in Mirror World, maybe.

And it sure seems as if there is some sort of overall story tying DA together- namely Flemeth and Morrigan. So it while DA2 may seem at first glance like a whole new story with new PC, it would be neat if come DA3 or whenever, all the interested parties from DAO and DA2 sort of get brought together in the big Morrigan/Flemeth plotline that seems destined to change Thedas.


Edit: And is anyone else sort of disappointed that the Old God Baby is a boy? At the very least that tosses out all those theories that Flemeth wanted to steal the Old God Baby's body- unless Flemeth wants to be a man

Actually Brock, David Gaider said that there are several ways he could bring back a dead Warden, so US isn't a problem at all. In fact he said that he would have done that had DA2 been about the Warden again.

As for both Hawke and Warden coming back in DA3, I can see that happening but then they wouldn't be playable characters, since every DA title needs to be accesible to new players. Apparently this means that they can create a default setting when it comes to decisions from previous games but cannot keep the same protagonist, like they did in ME2.
I'll admit that it doesn't make a lot of sense but that's how things are.

[Jarlof Seoul]

I love Witch Hunt. Well designed for a DLC. Some particular details that come to mind:



- Ariane stopping Finn in mid-sentence when you find Morrigan.

- Ariane's facial expressions during your walk towards Morrigan with the "psst, don't forget the book." (I didn't care--was determined to stay with her if possible; did see it be given as gift during curiosity replays) Better than most modern film acting.

- Morrigan's humility and pained look as she explains the little she choose to.

- Of course my Warden's and her expression, the cinematic cut of them side by side going into the mirror.



The resolution was a dream come true after years of frustrating non-resolutions like in the TV series Wiseguy and computer games going back to Eye of the Beholder 1, where after hacking away at the 9-10 levels you get a paragraph epilogue. This DLC puts DAO franchise back into the epic--something special categories and Bioware avoids the Origin/Ultima bought by EA curse (ruins the series starting with U8 and dumped it in favor of Ultima online. There is justice in the world. Once in a while, jute once in a while, the good guys win.

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[CalJones]

Ha! OMG I remember the end of EotB - you spend ages hacking away at this terrifying thing and...C:> *headdesk*

[GardenSnake]

Master Shiori wrote...

Brockololly wrote...


The fact that Warden could be dead is worrisome, but you figure they handled it already in Witch Hunt by just throwing in the Orlesian Warden. But yeah, it would be terrible if it goes the ME route of generic scenes for those who had their Warden die or something. If you're going to offer up a big choice like the DR and let the Warden follow Morrigan through the mirror, that should be carried through sufficiently in any sequel where Morrigan may play a role. The very fact that they made Witch Hunt as mostly devoted to the Morrigan romance gives me hope that they won't just abandon the Warden in Mirror World, maybe.

And it sure seems as if there is some sort of overall story tying DA together- namely Flemeth and Morrigan. So it while DA2 may seem at first glance like a whole new story with new PC, it would be neat if come DA3 or whenever, all the interested parties from DAO and DA2 sort of get brought together in the big Morrigan/Flemeth plotline that seems destined to change Thedas.


Edit: And is anyone else sort of disappointed that the Old God Baby is a boy? At the very least that tosses out all those theories that Flemeth wanted to steal the Old God Baby's body- unless Flemeth wants to be a man

Actually Brock, David Gaider said that there are several ways he could bring back a dead Warden, so US isn't a problem at all. In fact he said that he would have done that had DA2 been about the Warden again.

As for both Hawke and Warden coming back in DA3, I can see that happening but then they wouldn't be playable characters, since every DA title needs to be accesible to new players. Apparently this means that they can create a default setting when it comes to decisions from previous games but cannot keep the same protagonist, like they did in ME2.
I'll admit that it doesn't make a lot of sense but that's how things are.

Or it'll be new hero x who's the most badass mother****er this side of Tevinter, or something like that. Well, DA3's story doesn't even have to pick up directly after DA2, remember that. What if Bioware decide to make DA3 in between the decade that DA2 takes place in? That would be interesting, and a good chance to put the Warden back in action.

About what Brock mentioned above, I also think that big choices should have big concequences, but it's all a matter of time and resources. Sure, it would be awesome that if they brought the Warden back, the story line could be vastly different depending on whether you did the DR or did the US, and only companions would be the same across every playthrough. That's just not possible though, unless of course Donald Trump is behind the game and is just throwing cash boulder after cash boulder at you. Which would be great by the way.

To touch on the Gaider comment about bringing a dead Warden back, that mystical power of ressurection through his writering skill that he possesses could also potentially be applied to all those companions who could have been killed that Brock mentioned. Unless of course Gaider's reason for bringing the Warden back was Warden only.

[Terra_Ex]

Brock, I agree - that's one of our fave off-topic discussions here in the morri thread after all

So, a question for those of you who romanced morrigan and entered the mirror with her - what are your expectations of Morrigan's return and your warden. Are you expecting/anticipating that the warden will at least cameo beside her when she eventually returns (I'll assume we're getting a new PC and if not it'll be a pleasant surprise). Would you be disappointed if Morrigan had a solo role in DA3 after the events of Witch Hunt or would the DLC ending be enough to satisfy you?

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...

Edit: And is anyone else sort of disappointed that the Old God Baby is a boy? At the very least that tosses out all those theories that Flemeth wanted to steal the Old God Baby's body- unless Flemeth wants to be a man

No, because quite a few of us said over and over that Flemeth and/or Morrigan were not looking to use the baby as some sort of new vessel; The whole bit about destroying the thing that makes him/her special, yadda yadda.

[tom2504]

Have I missed something that bioware said? Why do people seem to think that the only answers we'll get regarding Morrigan and the Warden will come in DA3 or 'in a few years'?

I theorized that based on what you did with your Warden in Witch Hunt, those decisions would get implemented into DA2 and you may see your own Warden within the game but playing as Hawke instead.

It sounds far-fetched in words but when I think about it but something along those lines surely can't be compeltely wiped off the table? I don't know why Bioware would include Flemeth in DA2 and not Morrigan, to me that just doesn't sound right - but obviously if Morrigan is included we'd have to get at least a BIT of the Warden...

DAO is however, the only Bioware game that I can remember playing to this date, so unless they have a history of going; Game 1 - Story A > Game 2 - Story B then -> Game 3 Story A continuation I think it's there's still a little (very very very little) glitter of hope for Morrigan + the Warden in DA2.

Although I don't want to go down the 'hope train' path again <_<

[Maconbar]

Terra_Ex wrote...

Brock, I agree - that's one of our fave off-topic discussions here in the morri thread after all

So, a question for those of you who romanced morrigan and entered the mirror with her - what are your expectations of Morrigan's return and your warden. Are you expecting/anticipating that the warden will at least cameo beside her when she eventually returns (I'll assume we're getting a new PC and if not it'll be a pleasant surprise). Would you be disappointed if Morrigan had a solo role in DA3 after the events of Witch Hunt or would the DLC ending be enough to satisfy you?

I would like to see the warden in all versions except US to return in some way. I think that for a story that spans several games and books to have the protagonist of Act 1 (aka DA:O) to disappear off-screen is weak storytelling.

[Terra_Ex]

tom2504 wrote...

Have I missed something that bioware said? Why do people seem to think that the only answers we'll get regarding Morrigan and the Warden will come in DA3 or 'in a few years'?

I theorized that based on what you did with your Warden in Witch Hunt, those decisions would get implemented into DA2 and you may see your own Warden within the game but playing as Hawke instead.

Gaider said in a PAX session there will be no Claudia Black voiceovers for DA2 = no morrigan... probably.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:36 .

[soundchaser721]

Terra_Ex wrote...

Brock, I agree - that's one of our fave off-topic discussions here in the morri thread after all

So, a question for those of you who romanced morrigan and entered the mirror with her - what are your expectations of Morrigan's return and your warden. Are you expecting/anticipating that the warden will at least cameo beside her when she eventually returns (I'll assume we're getting a new PC and if not it'll be a pleasant surprise). Would you be disappointed if Morrigan had a solo role in DA3 after the events of Witch Hunt or would the DLC ending be enough to satisfy you?

If morrigans going to return from the mirror in DA3 then the warden really should be there as well and if not, they better have a good reason to justify it. It would be a major bummer if morrigan returns and the warden's nowhere to be found and they either don't clarify why or they give some bs reason. To me, the ending of Witch Hunt was pretty satisfying but its so ambiguous and they really could take it anywhere they wanted- and that includes giving morrigan a solo role in DA3 and screwing the warden over. I guess we'll never really know until at the very least DA2 I just hope the warden isn't done for good.

Modifié par soundchaser721, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:37 .

[tom2504]

Terra_Ex wrote...

tom2504 wrote...

Have I missed something that bioware said? Why do people seem to think that the only answers we'll get regarding Morrigan and the Warden will come in DA3 or 'in a few years'?

I theorized that based on what you did with your Warden in Witch Hunt, those decisions would get implemented into DA2 and you may see your own Warden within the game but playing as Hawke instead.

Gaider said in a PAX session there will be no Claudia Black voiceovers for DA2 = no morrigan... probably.

Well that answes it

[Barbarossa2010]

Terra_Ex wrote...

Brock, I agree - that's one of our fave off-topic discussions here in the morri thread after all

So, a question for those of you who romanced morrigan and entered the mirror with her - what are your expectations of Morrigan's return and your warden. Are you expecting/anticipating that the warden will at least cameo beside her when she eventually returns (I'll assume we're getting a new PC and if not it'll be a pleasant surprise). Would you be disappointed if Morrigan had a solo role in DA3 after the events of Witch Hunt or would the DLC ending be enough to satisfy you?

I definitely want to see the Warden back in action.  To me, he is the story no matter what vision the writers migt possess for Dragon Age.  The ability to personalize him/her as a player character was like no other game I've played.  Him being a silent protagonist added deeply to the personal immersion into the character.  I  just really liked who he was as a character.  I could give 20 adjectives to describe him.  He was a character of my own creation, of course framed within the context of a story arc that was compelling.  But make no mistake, he is the one who made the story for me.   I really only have three "canon" Wardens.  My second one romanced Leliana and did the DR.   My third was an ultimate sacrifice Warden so I suppose his story is finished.  But his ending was epic and very final in my mind.  When I see him standing alone at the post-epilogue save at the crossroads, the only thing I can think of is...well...awe.  I just can't bring my self to send him back to camp.  That just seems cheap to me.  Sort of stupid to some I guess, but to me he was a memorable story character.

While Morrigan was far and above my favorite NPC, I have to say she was only my second favorite character in the story.  I think because of this fact was the reason I was so put off by the DR playing out the way it did.  With all the effort the player put into his/her PC in DA:O, from choosing their origin, to detailing their physical appearance, to stressing over their personality and their dialogue choices which would determine how he/she would interact with the world and its people, you would think BW would understand deeply why some players might have a small expectation to continue his/her adventure; and that they might really be ticked off that their Warden is being scuttled in favor of a 'new and improved' protagonist that, in my mind, can never truly measure up.  I mean the whole point of having an Origin implied in my mind that we were starting something not only big, but really big, which only seemed to fizzle out in the story arc by being dumped for what appears, no real good reason.

So yeah, the Warden is Dragon Age to me and I would like to see him saving the world again.  Morrigan is who she is because of him.  Her showing up alone is uninteresting and severly lacking in impact to me.  Oh, and Thedas was only the stage he acted on, and a very inferior "main character." 

Having said that, if the OGB can be brought into play as a PC, I probably could set aside the Warden, since I could sort of still be him, or aim to be like him, as his progeny and interact with Morrigan in very familial way.  Just the view from my foxhole though.

[Morrigans God son]

Morrigan's story deserved more than a two hour DLC. It should of at least got an expansion, if not a sequel. I'm so disapointed with the way DA2 is going, I don't know about you guys.

I bought all the DLC content available for Origins, and what do I get Hawke? No thanks I will pass on Hawke.



Anyways do you guys think Morrigan's story is sequel material?

[GardenSnake]

Morrigans God son wrote...

Morrigan's story deserved more than a two hour DLC. It should of at least got an expansion, if not a sequel. I'm so disapointed with the way DA2 is going, I don't know about you guys.
I bought all the DLC content available for Origins, and what do I get Hawke? No thanks I will pass on Hawke.

Anyways do you guys think Morrigan's story is sequel material?

As much as some people hate her *cough*Asai*cough*, she's an important character in the Dragon Age universe, that much is clear. A sequal dedicated to her? That would ****** a crap load of people off, this thread would be happy, but not everybody. Her story playing a huge factor in a sequal? Now that's more like it.

[KDawg0713]

My dream is that when Morrigan returns, at some point she will leave, and the new pc will try to stop her and she will be like, I can't, I have someone waiting for me...



Also I would love to see the OGB have a heartwarming seen with a Mabari and then say that his dad (or aunt/uncle) had one. Of course this is only if you go in the mirror and if dog does follow after...

[Brockololly]

Terra_Ex wrote...

So, a question for those of you who romanced morrigan and entered the mirror with her - what are your expectations of Morrigan's return and your warden. Are you expecting/anticipating that the warden will at least cameo beside her when she eventually returns (I'll assume we're getting a new PC and if not it'll be a pleasant surprise). Would you be disappointed if Morrigan had a solo role in DA3 after the events of Witch Hunt or would the DLC ending be enough to satisfy you?

The problem at least technically right now with having the Warden just show up as an NPC cameo is that for DA2 BioWare totally redid the face morph system. So presumably, they couldn't import the look of our Wardens- so any cameo would be as some hooded figure probably- and thats sort of meh.

If Morrigan were to turn up in a solo role they would need to explain why the Warden wasn't there- better than the Love Interest notes in Awakening - I can see it now:

"Oh sorry I couldn't help you save the world from Flemeth, honey. I simply had to mow the lawn and clean the gutters before I painted the shed this afternoon. I'll be sure to pick up some Chinese take out for dinner and get Old God baby from soccer practice after school lets out. Enjoy bringing change and freedom to all of Thedas!
Love, The Warden

PS- Do tell Dog I said hello!

Although it should be said, Gaider was asked in one of the PAX chats about the Oghren hate in Awakening and he basically said it would have been his choice to bring all the LI's back or even all the Origins characters, but that given budget they couldn't. Presumably in a sequel, they'd have the budget so if the story allowed, budget shouldn't stop the Warden's return alongside Morrigan and family.

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The DLC ending would be perfectly satisfactory if we never saw Morrigan, the Warden or OGB again. It would very much be like the Throne of Bhaal ending. Except its all but a certainty Morrigan will show up in the future. If she is alone, they need to explain where the Warden is, or rather simply bring the Warden along.

Haviong played through as a new Orlesian in Witch Hunt just now though, I'm wondering if maybe the Wardens in general won't have a role to play down the road in DA3 perhaps.

• You can ask Morrigan about whether Flemeth had something to do with the Blight- Morrigan's response: "Perhaps even more than you would even believe." So does that mean Flemeth is somehow involved with the darkspawn?
• Then she says: "Go. Tell your Wardens to be wary. Tell them to watch for what is to come." Again, what does Morrigan have planned or know of  Flemeth's plans that would require the Warden to be on guard? If the Wardens are all about the darkspawn.....

Then you add that to the notion that Awakening's epilogue for the Orlesian mentions another Blight in the Anderfels- I don't know, but perhaps Flemeth is interested in the darkspawn somehow and that will tie things together come DA3? The fact that Morrigan tells the Orlesian to get the Wardens on guard seems rather specific...

Or we could play as the Old God Baby, but that would likely presume a big time jump, which I wouldn't be too keen on. Its possible that with DA3 however, they could use the framed narrative which I think could be wonderful in showing consequences without relegating them to a sequel. So maybe have DA3 start out with the end of Witch Hunt with the Warden or Orlesian Warden, then you could possibly skip ahead and maybe cover 20 years or so- that gives you the chance to wrap up the Warden and even introduce an adult Old God baby among other things...
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tom2504 wrote...
Although I don't want to go down the 'hope train' path again [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Nonsense! Of course you do!

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And on the topic of WItch Hunt again, I just can't shake the feeling there was supposed to be more to this than they had or that perhaps this was an expack at some point. Maybe thats just my wishful thinking but this is from the codex on the Orlesian Warden that sets up Witch Hunt and it sounds almost exactly like my "dream" searching for Morrigan expack would have been, except have it in the Frostbacks and Orlais:

Your post as Warden Commander of Ferelden has been filled with challenges and difficulties. As an Orlesian, the local nobility in Amaranthine have given you a frosty reception. Weisshaupt has provided little direct assistance but has promised more aid if you complete one small task.

During the last Blight, the hero of Ferelden worked with a purported witch of the Korcari Wilds: Morrigan. The role she and her mother, Flemeth, played in the Blight has caused a great deal of concern to the First Warden. Although scarce on details, the First Warden is offering considerable support if you find Morrigan and acquire some information. What information you need to attain, though, is frustratingly vague.

After you sent scouts to track down Morrigan, you discovered that you are not alone in looking for her. The Templars believe that she is a dangerous blood mage and are offering a high price for her elimination, and the Crown had soliders looking for her in southern Ferelden. Morrigan has ignited controversy in your own rank, too. Some believe she should be found and killed (such as your seneschal, Garavel), while others believe she should be spared if she cooperates and answers your questions.

Your scouts recently uncovered the location of Flemeth's hut and report unusual activity in the area.

If that was part of a bigger expansion with Templars, soldiers and the Dalish racing to find Morrigan that would have been intense. You could have done some serious detective work in the Frostbacks, Dales and Orlais trying to find her. Or maybe the Templars catch Morrigan and take her to The Aeonar and you would have had to bust her out. Soooo many possibilities- Witch Hunt wasn't bad per se in terms of her romance, it just could have been even better as an expack.

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 septembre 2010 - 01:39 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Brock. Suvh a wasted opportunity. Would have been much better than Awakening.

[EnchantedEyes1]

Hello. First time posting in this thread because I have a question and it seems as if you all have done your homework

I am a woman and usually only play female characters and while I found this DLC somewhat disappointing at the end, something she said to my mage (2nd play through) when I asked to come with her was that she couldn't let me make that large a sacrifice. So it seems that she will let her male love make that sacrifice (whatever it might be) but not her best and only friend.

What do you suppose that sacrifice is? To me, I kind of think that means the Warden's physical being ceases to exist... but curious as to what else you think it could be.

Morrigan is like a sister to me by the end of origins and I wish she would include me in her plans, but alas....

[Brockololly]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Hello. First time posting in this thread because I have a question and it seems as if you all have done your homework

I am a woman and usually only play female characters and while I found this DLC somewhat disappointing at the end, something she said to my mage (2nd play through) when I asked to come with her was that she couldn't let me make that large a sacrifice. So it seems that she will let her male love make that sacrifice (whatever it might be) but not her best and only friend.

What do you suppose that sacrifice is? To me, I kind of think that means the Warden's physical being ceases to exist... but curious as to what else you think it could be.

Morrigan is like a sister to me by the end of origins and I wish she would include me in her plans, but alas....

I've not seen any video or anything of what Morrigan says to a female friendly Warden who wants to come along. I don't think she'd let her lover come in if she knew it would end badly for him though. After all, she went through the whole DR in part so that the Warden would survive and live. I'd expect that in the case Morrigan knew going through the mirror would do some sort of irreparable harm to the Warden she would straight up say NO you're not coming.
It could be something tragic I guess, but I'd hope not. It coud be that Morrigan herself needs to do something in order to gain power and take on Flemeth-maybe she needs to make some sacrifice herself that she doesn't want the Warden to have to deal with and would rather the Warden stay in Thedas to deal with whatever Flemeth has brewing? Not sure- but if you do romance her and go through after asking her to come along she says:

You... cannot know what you ask. T'would be better if you stayed. For you, for us both.

Then you can say you want to see your child or that you're not leaving her again and she responds with:

Then come, my love. We will face the future together.

I'd think she just wants the Warden to stay safe and not get directly involved in her plans as thats sort of firmly putting him on "Team Morrigan" and risks his life in whatever plans she may have. Whereas if the Warden stayed behind, its likely that Flemeth or whatever other enemies Morrigan may make with her plan wouldn't go after her lover or friend the Warden too.

But its all so vague, it could really be anything.

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 septembre 2010 - 02:28 .

[EnchantedEyes1]

Thanks Brockolloly. I wish I could record my game but I'm on a PS3 and don't know if I can even do that. Anyway I was really surprised when she made that statement and it just made me wonder.

I've resurrected a male Cousland I'd abandoned a while back (on a different account) just so I can play WH with a male. I think it will definitely be a more satisfying end.

Lastly, Morrigan fascinates me and I just love her to pieces. Smart, cunning, funny - what's not to like. She would be a friend in real life. Oh, but look at me, preaching to the choir, lol.

Modifié par EnchantedEyes1, 10 septembre 2010 - 02:47 .

[GardenSnake]

Ya, turns out that the mirror leads to candy land and Morri and the Warden just relax until DA3. Would that not be awesome? I mean seriously, we're all worried and Morrigan is trying to sound all ominous and stuff, but it's actually just a mirror to Candyland, she just wants all the sweets to herself

Modifié par GardenSnake, 10 septembre 2010 - 02:50 .

[EnchantedEyes1]

Maybe relax and have more babies?

edited: Oh wait, the taint... how could I forget about that pesky taint.

Modifié par EnchantedEyes1, 10 septembre 2010 - 02:52 .