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[GardenSnake]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Maybe relax and have more babies?

Good idea, all that candy can't only be used for eating, some kinky stuff could come out of that  Speaking of which, what would Morrigan look like in a bikini made out of candy cane bits? Ximena, get on it lol 

[Morrigans God son]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Maybe relax and have more babies?

edited: Oh wait, the taint... how could I forget about that pesky taint.

Thank god for that! the last thing Thedas needs is more god babies running about
But wait.......what if the mirror cures the warden of the taint? Oh no...I can see it now, years later...my warden being surrounded by crying babies...shooting lazers from their eyes!

That would be so......awesome.

[KnightofPhoenix]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Maybe relax and have more babies?

edited: Oh wait, the taint... how could I forget about that pesky taint.

Actually the taint increases Warden....apetite.
Plus Morrigan's magic can find a solution.

And if not...well free contraception ftw!

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:13 .

[Giggles_Manically]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Maybe relax and have more babies?

edited: Oh wait, the taint... how could I forget about that pesky taint.

Actually the taint increases Warden....apetite.
Plus Morrigan's magic can find a solution.

And if not...well free contraception ftw!

Thats one way to keep the population.
Although thinking about Isolde in...

You get my drift that works about just as well.

[Brockololly]

While us Morrigan romancing Warden fans may have enjoyed Witch Hunt for the most part, its not getting a favorable reception in BioWare's coveted  gaming press.

In fact, Witch Hunt is straight up getting TRASHED in reviews- albeit most of dubious quality.

IGN: 6.5/10
Gamespot: 5/10
Joystiq: "disappointing and flimsy finale to the Dragon Age Origins storyline"
Eurogamer: 6/10
SpawnKill: 1/10
BigDownload: Average
GameSnark: 2/5
ElderGeek: Don't Bother
GameBlurb: Pass on it
GameRant: 1.5/5

Basically the reviews criticize it for the recycled environments, short play time and crummy ending to Origins as a whole and the fact that unless you romanced Morrigan, you're left with more questions than answers. And I can't disagree with most of that- the DLC for DA in general has been disappointing. Even the Gamespot reviewer is the same guy that lavished praise on Origins, giving it a 9.5/10!

And BioWare clearly takes not of these reviews as if you look on BioWare's twitter its tooting its own horn about how IGN gave Shadow Broker a 9.5/10. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with DA's DLC? I really don't care about reviews but I'm just concerned that as far as funding goes, reviews matter. So if EA sees ME as the "better" franchise, they'll pump more $$$ into that while letting DA piddle away with tiny budgets and continue making subpar content.

I enjoyed Witch Hunt and will write up my complete thoughts tomorrow, but its sad to see it get such a poor reception, especially when I feel like it could have been so much more. I can't help but think that BioWare's over exuberant marketing of "ALL YOUR MORRIGAN QUESTIONS ANSWERED!" is in part to blame though too.

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:20 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I can agree that only the hardcore Origins / Morrigan fans can enjoy it fully or think it worth 7$, despite all the mess.

I liked it personally, but it could have been much much more, the bugs it has are inexcusable, and we don't get any answers. It's mostly a fan service to Morrigan fans and esp lovers imo. Other than that, it has little to offer.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:26 .

[phaonica]

Brockololly wrote...

I can't help but think that BioWare's over exuberant marketing of "ALL YOUR MORRIGAN QUESTIONS ANSWERED!" is in part to blame though too.

I think this is true. I mean, the DLC answered almost nothing, and that's fine really. The problem is that they said that it would. If they'd said, "Focuses on the Wardens who romanced Morrigan, and allows them a chance to determine where the future of their romance might lead!" Then it might have been fine. I mean, people would complain that it only focused on the Morrigan romance, but at least it wouldn't feel like 'false advertising.'

[Terra_Ex]

Some great responses as usual Unsurprisingly we all the warden back in some capacity, at least till the morrigan/flemeth thing is done with.



[quote]Barbarossa2010 wrote...
So yeah, the Warden is Dragon Age to me and I would like to see him saving the world again.  Morrigan is who she is because of him.  Her showing up alone is uninteresting and severly lacking in impact to me. Oh, and Thedas was only the stage he acted on, and a very inferior "main character." 
[/quote]
Well, I'm not dead set against a new character, don't get me wrong it is disappointing and a BioWare-defined PC dealing with Morrigan & Flemeth with finality will definitely not appeal to me.

[quote]Barbarossa2010 wrote...
I definitely want to see the Warden back in action.  To me, he is the story no matter what vision the writers migt possess for Dragon Age.  The ability to personalize him/her as a player character was like no other game I've played.  Him being a silent protagonist added deeply to the personal immersion into the character.  I  just really liked who he
was as a character.  But his ending was epic and very final in my mind.  When I see him standing alone at the post-epilogue save at the crossroads, the only thing I can think of is...well...awe.  I just can't bring my self to send him back to camp. That just seems cheap to me.  Sort of stupid to some I guess, but to me he was a memorable story character.[/quote]
Definitely agree with the silent protagonist point and I'm not sure BW will ever go back to that after DA2, which is concerning... and yeah I agree, there is something a bit awe-inspiring about the warden.


[quote]Barbarossa2010 wrote...
So yeah, the Warden is Dragon Age to me and I would like to see him saving the world again.  Morrigan is who she is because of him.  Her showing up alone is uninteresting and severly lacking in impact to me.  Oh, and Thedas was only the stage he acted on, and a very inferior "main character."  [/quote]
Haha, don't get me started on this, as you say it's a backdrop, you learn about it as a natural process and the culture and lore is imprinted via believable and memorable characters...

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
The problem at least technically right now with having the Warden just show up as an NPC cameo is that for DA2 BioWare totally redid the face morph system. So presumably, they couldn't import the look of our Wardens- so any cameo would be as some hooded figure probably- and thats sort of meh.

[/quote]
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. My memory is a little vague but iirc Mass Effect -> Mass Effect 2 also changed the facial system considerably, but then again Shepard's appearance was obviously a major feature since he's guaranteed to feature in each game. I suppose you could always reconstruct from scratch.


[quote]Brockololly wrote...
If Morrigan were to turn up in a solo role they would need to explain why the Warden wasn't there- better than the Love Interest notes in Awakening - I can see it now:

[quote]
"Oh sorry I couldn't help you save the world from Flemeth, honey. I simply had to mow the lawn and clean the gutters before I painted the shed this afternoon. I'll be sure to pick up some Chinese take out for dinner and get Old God baby from soccer practice after school lets out. Enjoy bringing change and freedom to all of Thedas!
Love, The Warden

PS- Do tell Dog I said hello![/quote]
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]
[/quote]
I lol'd - for me that is a make or break regarding my interest in DA, they've managed to retain my interest till DA2 thanks to WH - but if they drop the ball with something like that... seriously words will fail me. There's some kind of epic misconception that morrifans want nothing more than stop the adventure dead and settle down with the picket fences and whatnot. In actuality, Morrigan's story and romance entangle the warden in what is evidently a much greater plot arc, we want to go with morri so we (our player character) can continue to be part of these events. For me, none of the other romances come close to the thrill of Morrigan's. You know that you're getting in over your head, but that's the beauty of it.


[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Although it should be said, Gaider was asked in one of the PAX chats about the Oghren hate in Awakening and he basically said it would have been his choice to bring all the LI's back or even all the Origins characters, but that given budget they couldn't. Presumably in a sequel, they'd have the budget so if the story allowed, budget shouldn't stop the Warden's return alongside Morrigan and family.
[/quote]
Oh yeah, I've seen him say as much way before PAX - there was an old post of his that I vaguely remember regarding it. This is part of the problem though, unlike the days of BG, an expansion pack budget isn't gonna stretch to cover all the vocal costs, let alone the rest of the expenses so it's certainly a fair move to opt for a non-romance candidate in that instance. The problem is when you ditch the original cast, everything is just so detached you just feel like you've been plonked down in the middle of nowhere with a bemused look on your face. Maybe some of the resources that went toward DLCs could've been targetted at making a singular bigger ex pack, since between them all they've had 3 LI's return with accompanying vocal work.

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
The DLC ending would be perfectly satisfactory if we never saw Morrigan, the Warden or OGB again. It would very much be like the Throne of Bhaal ending. Except its all but a certainty Morrigan will show up in the future. If she is alone, they need to explain where the Warden is, or rather simply bring the Warden along.
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That's my fear as I've said above, the non-presence of the romancing warden (or a stupid explanation) would undermine not only the ending to Witch Hunt but also the player's efforts throughout Origins. One thing about WH's endings though is once again, they are all pertinent to the warden (male or female). If you stab her, when/if she returns she'll want revenge against said warden, likewise the exchanges with friends and lovers - Morrigan gives her warnings of Flemeth posing a bigger threat than previously known. Now I'm hoping this isn't just another way of saying "buy Dragon Age 2", I'd like to think that the warden still has a role to play in these events.


[quote]Brockololly wrote...

Haviong played through as a new Orlesian in Witch Hunt just now though, I'm wondering if maybe the Wardens in general won't have a role to play down the road in DA3 perhaps.
[*]You can ask Morrigan about whether Flemeth had something to do with the Blight- Morrigan's response: "Perhaps even more than you would even believe." So does that mean Flemeth is somehow involved with the darkspawn?[*]Then she says: "Go. Tell your Wardens to be wary. Tell them to watch for what is to come." Again, what does Morrigan have planned or know of  Flemeth's plans that would require the Warden to be on guard? If the Wardens are all about the darkspawn.....
Then you add that to the notion that Awakening's epilogue for the Orlesian mentions another Blight in the Anderfels- I don't know, but perhaps Flemeth is interested in the darkspawn somehow and that will tie things together come DA3? The fact that Morrigan tells the Orlesian to get the Wardens on guard seems rather specific...
[/quote]
Now that is interesting Brock... Didn't Gaider say that Grey Wardens would feature in DA2 but have a significantly smaller role this time around. Gaider did go out of his way to tie GW's to Blights in one of the PAX vids, he also mentioned something about DA2 being a bit soon for another blight, and also teased with the possibility of the warden resurfacing in the future. We need a transcript of the pertinent parts of Gaider's PAX interviews where he mentions the warden, blights and what not so we can pick it apart, blow it out of all proportion, obsess over it for a few months and the ultimately, get let down. Maybe there's something there, depends how much of an active role Flemeth has in DA2, and from the bits I've seen thus far there's definitely a stage being for something. If Flemeth is orchestrating something regarding the darkspawn, and morri warns the warden of it, that's a possible reason for a comeback.


[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Or we could play as the Old God Baby, but that would likely presume a big time jump, which I wouldn't be too keen on. Its possible that with DA3 however, they could use the framed narrative which I think could be wonderful in showing consequences without relegating them to a sequel. So maybe have DA3 start out with the end of Witch Hunt with the Warden or Orlesian Warden, then you could possibly skip ahead and maybe cover 20 years or so- that gives you the chance to wrap up the Warden and even introduce an adult Old God baby among other things...
[/quote]
Can't see it happening since some people enjoy locking themselves out of potentially great plot threads Also not too keen on the idea myself...

[quote]Brockololly wrote...

And on the topic of WItch Hunt again, I just can't shake the feeling there was supposed to be more to this than they had or that perhaps this was an expack at some point. Maybe thats just my wishful thinking but this is from the codex on the Orlesian Warden that sets up Witch Hunt and it sounds almost exactly like my "dream" searching for Morrigan expack would have been, except have it in the Frostbacks and Orlais:
[/quote]
Wouldn't surprise me tbh.

[quote]GardenSnake wrote...

Ya, turns out that the mirror leads to candy land and Morri and the Warden just relax until DA3. Would that not be awesome? I mean seriously, we're all worried and Morrigan is trying to sound all ominous and stuff, but it's actually just a mirror to Candyland, she just wants all the sweets to herself [/quote]
I'm somewhat hopeful that the mirror leads to Tranquility Lane from Fallout 3, allowing the warden and morri to remain in idyllic bliss replete with picket fences forever more, because after all - that's what all morri fans want (allegedly).

I'm gonna stop there as there's probably too much false hope in the post already.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:41 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Brockololly wrote...

While us Morrigan romancing Warden fans may have enjoyed Witch Hunt for the most part, its not getting a favorable reception in BioWare's coveted  gaming press.

In fact, Witch Hunt is straight up getting TRASHED in reviews- albeit most of dubious quality.

IGN: 6.5/10
Gamespot: 5/10
Joystiq: "disappointing and flimsy finale to the Dragon Age Origins storyline"
Eurogamer: 6/10
SpawnKill: 1/10
BigDownload: Average
GameSnark: 2/5
ElderGeek: Don't Bother
GameBlurb: Pass on it
GameRant: 1.5/5

Basically the reviews criticize it for the recycled environments, short play time and crummy ending to Origins as a whole and the fact that unless you romanced Morrigan, you're left with more questions than answers. And I can't disagree with most of that- the DLC for DA in general has been disappointing. Even the Gamespot reviewer is the same guy that lavished praise on Origins, giving it a 9.5/10!

And BioWare clearly takes not of these reviews as if you look on BioWare's twitter its tooting its own horn about how IGN gave Shadow Broker a 9.5/10. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with DA's DLC? I really don't care about reviews but I'm just concerned that as far as funding goes, reviews matter. So if EA sees ME as the "better" franchise, they'll pump more $$$ into that while letting DA piddle away with tiny budgets and continue making subpar content.

I enjoyed Witch Hunt and will write up my complete thoughts tomorrow, but its sad to see it get such a poor reception, especially when I feel like it could have been so much more. I can't help but think that BioWare's over exuberant marketing of "ALL YOUR MORRIGAN QUESTIONS ANSWERED!" is in part to blame though too.

How ironic.  It's clearly the best DLC imo for such a story-based franchise.  There was closure, an actual ending, enough wiggle room to breath further life into the story and just enough information to give us something to look forward to yet clearly warn us that something big is looming on the horizon.  Morrigan's dialogue and reactions were superb to me.  That's good writing.  Even with the bug, I had very few complaints (and that is something I'm usually never short of).  Oh well, I'm getting quite use to being on the wrong side of the fence when it comes to DA. 

I'm beginning to think I need to be sent to the RPG re-education camp to learn how to think like the gaming press and the majority opinion wants me to think.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:42 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Its easy to do that.

Just hope for a 300 style game, with killin and sexin!

And no story, or depth since to EA gamers only need their basest wants tickled.

[Terra_Ex]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I can agree that only the hardcore Origins / Morrigan fans can enjoy it fully or think it worth 7$, despite all the mess.

I liked it personally, but it could have been much much more, the bugs it has are inexcusable, and we don't get any answers. It's mostly a fan service to Morrigan fans and esp lovers imo. Other than that, it has little to offer.

^What knight said. Mass media do not even attempt immersion when reviewing rpgs, as such they generally fare unfavourably. As knight said though, it's primary focus is for those who romanced her and its justified tbh as we got nothing prior to this... well we did get a bugged epilogue slide if that counts, two in fact!

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 10 septembre 2010 - 03:50 .

[Brockololly]

Yeah, the trailer had its whole "MORRIGAN'S FATE REVEALED!" tagline- excuse me, Morrigan's fate is to jump into Mirror World? I agree phaonica, you get the most out of this DLC as a Morrigan romancing Warden- but the thing that sucks, IMO, is that really every Warden would have some reason to track down Morrigan had she given us meaningful answers as to what Flemeth was up to or what the Warden should be looking out for with regard to Flemeth.

Its funny because if you play as the Orlesian, it says your task is to find Morrigan and get answers- oops, I guess you failed. And while I love the "Go off into Mirror World ending" thats limited to romancing Wardens- everyone else gets the book and some "gift." The stupid thing is that you have no idea what that gift is- I guess its a book? Maybe Flemeth's grimoire? Thats cool if thats what it is, but you the player have no idea.

The DLC should have focused more on the ending- the whole conversation should have covered a bit more than what it did. And if that was supposed to be the end to Origins, it should have had some epilogue slides at least, if they weren't going to give answers in the game.

I just worry that all this subpar DLC ends up hurting DA overall.....

[Barbarossa2010]

Terra_Ex wrote...

....We need a transcript of the pertinent parts of Gaider's PAX interviews where he mentions the warden, blights and what not so we can pick it apart, blow it out of all proportion, obsess over it for a few months and the ultimately, get let down...

OMG, LOL.  I almost spit my coffee out!

[Morrigans God son]

Brockololly wrote...

While us Morrigan romancing Warden fans may have enjoyed Witch Hunt for the most part, its not getting a favorable reception in BioWare's coveted  gaming press.

In fact, Witch Hunt is straight up getting TRASHED in reviews- albeit most of dubious quality.

IGN: 6.5/10
Gamespot: 5/10
Joystiq: "disappointing and flimsy finale to the Dragon Age Origins storyline"
Eurogamer: 6/10
SpawnKill: 1/10
BigDownload: Average
GameSnark: 2/5
ElderGeek: Don't Bother
GameBlurb: Pass on it
GameRant: 1.5/5

Basically the reviews criticize it for the recycled environments, short play time and crummy ending to Origins as a whole and the fact that unless you romanced Morrigan, you're left with more questions than answers. And I can't disagree with most of that- the DLC for DA in general has been disappointing. Even the Gamespot reviewer is the same guy that lavished praise on Origins, giving it a 9.5/10!

And BioWare clearly takes not of these reviews as if you look on BioWare's twitter its tooting its own horn about how IGN gave Shadow Broker a 9.5/10. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with DA's DLC? I really don't care about reviews but I'm just concerned that as far as funding goes, reviews matter. So if EA sees ME as the "better" franchise, they'll pump more $$$ into that while letting DA piddle away with tiny budgets and continue making subpar content.

I enjoyed Witch Hunt and will write up my complete thoughts tomorrow, but its sad to see it get such a poor reception, especially when I feel like it could have been so much more. I can't help but think that BioWare's over exuberant marketing of "ALL YOUR MORRIGAN QUESTIONS ANSWERED!" is in part to blame though too.

For me, Morrigan's story was way to big for a DLC, and I am disapointed with it. It just seemed so rushed. I did'nt get any questions answered. Except from what sex the child is. David Gaider says to leave us wanting more, but it's just starting to get annoying, leaving us with all these unfinished stories and plotholes everywhere.

BUT....at least if Morrigan does show up in the future ( assuming there is a future for DA. ) She will be with my warden. If she is not with my warden, Bioware have got to come up with one hell of an excuse for me, or I will be so annoyed.

[Terra_Ex]

I thought you'd like that one Barbarossa

Brockololly wrote...
The DLC should have focused more on the ending- the whole conversation should have covered a bit more than what it did. And if that was supposed to be the end to Origins, it should have had some epilogue slides at least, if they weren't going to give answers in the game.
I just worry that all this subpar DLC ends up hurting DA overall.....

Well, that's the thing, is this focusing on pushing DA2, or hinting that our wardens have another role to play.If the former, well that's a sin in of itself, if the latter, then you've just told the player (atm the warden) that there's something brewing and he/she needs to prepare and then as the coup de grace to this semi-revelation, you discover that your adventure is over...

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 10 septembre 2010 - 04:00 .

[Maconbar]

Terra_Ex wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Haviong played through as a new Orlesian in Witch Hunt just now though, I'm wondering if maybe the Wardens in general won't have a role to play down the road in DA3 perhaps.
[*]You can ask Morrigan about whether Flemeth had something to do with the Blight- Morrigan's response: "Perhaps even more than you would even believe." So does that mean Flemeth is somehow involved with the darkspawn?[*]Then she says: "Go. Tell your Wardens to be wary. Tell them to watch for what is to come." Again, what does Morrigan have planned or know of  Flemeth's plans that would require the Warden to be on guard? If the Wardens are all about the darkspawn.....
Then you add that to the notion that Awakening's epilogue for the Orlesian mentions another Blight in the Anderfels- I don't know, but perhaps Flemeth is interested in the darkspawn somehow and that will tie things together come DA3? The fact that Morrigan tells the Orlesian to get the Wardens on guard seems rather specific...

Now that is interesting Brock... Didn't Gaider say that Grey Wardens would feature in DA2 but have a significantly smaller role this time around. Gaider did go out of his way to tie GW's to Blights in one of the PAX vids, he also mentioned something about DA2 being a bit soon for another blight, and also teased with the possibility of the warden resurfacing in the future. We need a transcript of the pertinent parts of Gaider's PAX interviews where he mentions the warden, blights and what not so we can pick it apart, blow it out of all proportion, obsess over it for a few months and the ultimately, get let down. Maybe there's something there, depends how much of an active role Flemeth has in DA2, and from the bits I've seen thus far there's definitely a stage being for something. If Flemeth is orchestrating something regarding the darkspawn, and morri warns the warden of it, that's a possible reason for a comeback.

I am now toying with the idea that Flemeth "awakened" the Architect. As you noted above, Morrigan indicates that Flemeth has something to do with the blight. From The Stolen Throne it is clear that Flemeth knows that a blight is coming. For Awakenings we know that the Architect was responsible for awakening the archdemon. What we don't know is how the Architech came to be awakened. He is apparently the first of his kind. The Architect was able to awaken some of his brethren so it seems possible that Flemeth could initiate the awakening of the Architect.

[Maconbar]

Terra_Ex wrote...

I thought you'd like that one Barbarossa

Brockololly wrote...
The DLC should have focused more on the ending- the whole conversation should have covered a bit more than what it did. And if that was supposed to be the end to Origins, it should have had some epilogue slides at least, if they weren't going to give answers in the game.
I just worry that all this subpar DLC ends up hurting DA overall.....

Well, that's the thing, is this focusing on pushing DA2, or hinting that our wardens have another role to play.

Between Gaider at PAX and WH, I think that the door is open for the warden to return. That is something I didn't think was the case after Awakenings.

[Barbarossa2010]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Its easy to do that.
Just hope for a 300 style game, with killin and sexin!
And no story, or depth since to EA gamers only need their basest wants tickled.

You know, I played another EA game recently "LOTR, Conquest of Middle Earth" (for a goof , plus the fact that it was on sale for like a quarter in the used bargain bin) and if EA does that to DA, you guys might have to dog pile me to keep me safe from myself.

That game was like hitting yourself in the head with a maul hammer at rapid speed repeatedly, just a lot less fun.  All that was running through my mind as I painfully ground my way through..well...what can only be described as a jumbled up hyperactive and chaotic mess on illegal stimulants, was: "amped up," "fight like a Spartan," "dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle" and "when you press a button something happens immediately."  I was frightened actually and am not sure I'll recover anytime soon.

I pray I didn't just witness the future of Dragon Age.

[Brockololly]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...
....We need a transcript of the pertinent parts of Gaider's PAX interviews where he mentions the warden, blights and what not so we can pick it apart, blow it out of all proportion, obsess over it for a few months and the ultimately, get let down...

OMG, LOL.  I almost spit my coffee out!

Hey! I 'm half willing to start transcribing!

Terra_Ex wrote...
Well, that's the thing, is this focusing on pushing DA2, or hinting that our wardens have another role to play.

True- most of the negative reviews make the point that WH feels like a failed attempt at teasing DA2. I think it teases DA2 insofar as Flemeth is involved, since we all know that its not bloody likely Morrigan is showing up in DA2. However Laidlaw himself has mentioned how Morrigan will be referenced, but we likely don't see her, so I don't know how much of a tease WH is if Morrigan doesn't even show up.


Crazy speculation on Flemeth: So taking into account the Orlesian's encounter with Morrigan, I'm thinking maybe Flemeth is some sort of super abomination version of one of the original Tevinter Magisters that entered the Golden City. Or at least something connected to the darkspawn in some way. It would make sense given how FLemeth was somehow able to keep the darkspawn at bay in the Korcari Wilds, and maybe certainly being some sort of scary super abomination would disqualify her humanity as Morrigan mentions in WH. And of course it would give the Wardens something to look out for, if thats what Morrigan means to the Orlesian...

And maybe if the Warden's gift from Morrigan is FLemeth's grimoire it unveils to the Wardens at Weisshaupt what to be on the watch for...

I'm sort of wondering if Avernus and his research into the taint will ever show up again as a plot point- that seemed very interesting and they never did anything with that. I'm just wondering if maybe Flemeth would be interested in the Taint and the power within it somehow.

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 septembre 2010 - 04:08 .

[Maconbar]

Avernus reappearing would be nice. Something that I had totally forgotten about.

[Brockololly]

PureMethodActor wrote...

@Brockololly

On your Flemeth speculation:

What kind of abomination are you speculating she is, exactly? I was confused about your wording and whether you were denying possibilities or not.

Oh, I have no clue really. The stories from Origins that MOrrigan tells of Flemeth is that she first had a FAde spirit bound to her then a demon, making her some hybrid abomination. But then in WH, Morrigan says Flemeth isn't an abomination and isn't even truly human. SO maybe if FLemeth is one of the Tevinter Magisters that was cast out of the Golden City but then somehow altered the Taint within her via Blood magic like Avernus and then learned shapeshifting somehow and then ended up with the spirit and demon in her?

.....
.......
Wow, I think I just broke my brain. Thats enough inane speculation from me for a bit I think i need some sleep!

[Swoo]

Brockololly wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...

@Brockololly

On your Flemeth speculation:

What kind of abomination are you speculating she is, exactly? I was confused about your wording and whether you were denying possibilities or not.

Oh, I have no clue really. The stories from Origins that MOrrigan tells of Flemeth is that she first had a FAde spirit bound to her then a demon, making her some hybrid abomination. But then in WH, Morrigan says Flemeth isn't an abomination and isn't even truly human. SO maybe if FLemeth is one of the Tevinter Magisters that was cast out of the Golden City but then somehow altered the Taint within her via Blood magic like Avernus and then learned shapeshifting somehow and then ended up with the spirit and demon in her?

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Wow, I think I just broke my brain. Thats enough inane speculation from me for a bit I think i need some sleep!

I've always been keen on the idea that they are both Dragons. Though, The Last Tevinter would make quite an interesting tale.