Bruddajakka wrote...
Well she was in pretty incredible shape before she got pregnant but yeah post pregnancy you figure she would have gone for something a little more demure, and warmer if she was up in the Frostbacks.
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Bruddajakka wrote...
Well she was in pretty incredible shape before she got pregnant but yeah post pregnancy you figure she would have gone for something a little more demure, and warmer if she was up in the Frostbacks.
Well she could have gotten fit while traveling. xD
ximena wrote...
Bruddajakka wrote...
Well she was in pretty incredible shape before she got pregnant but yeah post pregnancy you figure she would have gone for something a little more demure, and warmer if she was up in the Frostbacks.
Well she could have gotten fit while traveling. xD
Modifié par Brockololly, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:15 .
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As for me, I'm busy playing my new female Dalish Warden so I can import her into Witch Hunt.
Nice- I'm thinking of maybe taking my DW Cousland into Awakening then cap it off with Witch Hunt as my "canon" playthrough. Then maybe I'll actually try out a rogue Cousland and then one last Amell run before DA2. For the life of me, I cannot finish a dwarven or elf run though. It just seems so weird romancing Morrigan witha a dwarf or elf.
But the neat thing with DA is the notion of playing as radically different PCs from game to game yet having the choices carry through. WIth my DW Cousland I'm thinking of having my "canon" Hawke be an evil female mage that sides with Flemeth. Could be interesting....
The fact that devs say it's not over yet and the fact that the Morri murder knife is (Attack her) when every other murder knife scene is (Kill him/her) seals the deal.
, may the ones that killed ypu be eaten by a Dragon 
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Master Shiori wrote..
As for me, I'm busy playing my new female Dalish Warden so I can import her into Witch Hunt.
Nice- I'm thinking of maybe taking my DW Cousland into Awakening then cap it off with Witch Hunt as my "canon" playthrough. Then maybe I'll actually try out a rogue Cousland and then one last Amell run before DA2. For the life of me, I cannot finish a dwarven or elf run though. It just seems so weird romancing Morrigan witha a dwarf or elf.
But the neat thing with DA is the notion of playing as radically different PCs from game to game yet having the choices carry through. WIth my DW Cousland I'm thinking of having my "canon" Hawke be an evil female mage that sides with Flemeth. Could be interesting....
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Am i thinking this too tricky or what..... i did Dark ritual and bought witch hunt DLC and in the "end talking" with morrigan she says you denied me the ritual??? i accepted the ritual why she says i denied it? she also says i denied her at redcliffe but i am still alive (whats that soppused to mean?)...but i accepted the ritual is this some sort of bug or whats wrong? but she still speaks about our son and so on... and WH doesn't save after speaking with her and end texts come then i press resume and ill be back in the area where i killed the strider..(is it supposed to save after i made my decision?)
Yeah, read the post on the very first page- it explains the nature of Witch Hunt's bug. Basically, if you want the proper ending with Morrigan, you need to import from a save before the post epilogue save at camp in Origins. So any saved game from the throne room scene or earlier should give you the correct "version" of Morrigan.
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Well, what are you doing in the spoiler forum if you haven't finished Origins yet!? Be gone!UFOash wrote..
So if you go from Origins-to Awakening-to Witch Hunt...does the game recognise that you romanced her in Origins. (presumably there is must be some kind of referance to a morrigan-romance in a DLC about morrigan).
Without spoiling anything, there is a chance if you import from Origins to Awakening that the Morrigan romance will not be recognized. But in the big scheme of things the reference to Morrigan in Awakening is very small. The Witch Hunt bug isn't necessarily tied to her romance, and yeah, if you don't want to be spoiled, I'll leave it at that.UFOash wrote..
Also, assuming the 390 (or 391 now) pages aren't all about the OP, is this just kinda like a "Morrigan Fan Thread" now then?
We're far too classy to call this a Morrigan fan thread, thus its named The Morrigan Discussion and Research threadB) But yes, anything and everything Morrigan related (or Flemeth too I guess) can go here.
Modifié par Deckers, 13 septembre 2010 - 03:13 .
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Redeem her in the eyes of the world (not that she would want to but...)
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So I was wondering earlier about one of Morrigan's lines in WH. The part where she explains to the PC things about the ritual, about how "the battle came too fast, and I had no choice but to come to you. (And I didn't want to see you harmed/die.)"
Does this imply there is another way to get the soul aside from the ritual, that Morrigan would have done that if there was more time?
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Morrigan had no idea it would come down to sleeping with Alistair at the end, that the confrontation would come so soon. All she needed was a Grey Warden who hadn't been a Grey Warden for very long... it could have been anyone, such as one of the many Orlesian Grey Wardens who were supposed to not be very far away. The fact that it comes down to just three Grey Wardens facing the Archdemon in the end was unexpected for everyone -- and the fact that of those three, with a female PC the only one that is suitable for the ritual is a man she despises, is no doubt galling to her personally.
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Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?
I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?
Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.
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Indeed. I'll point out, as well, that while we *could* have allowed you the option of attacking Morrigan, do you really think you would just one-shot her and that would be it? Even if you wounded her she would just change into an animal and be out of there. The original cinematics had her changing into a bird and flying out the window. I can still hear you going "But but but--" and I get it. You wanted to kill her. But trying to say that just because we wanted to we should have allowed it, and that by not allowing it we've broken some kind of... what? Call it Plot Armor if you must, that's just how it was going down.sylkwyrm1 wrote...
if she was your friend she was trying to save you, if she was not your firend then you won by refusing, her plans came to naught she departs defeated, despite her smug grin
I find it interesting that someone comments it's all about Morrigan walking by you in that scene. Technically speaking it's the cinematics people who did that, because they felt it made her exit more dramatic. But because you didn't get to spit at her or whatever it removes all agency from the entire encounter? An interesting view, and something to consider, I guess.
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- The whole "it was my plan from the start". As others said, it really sounded "WTF ?", but not in a "what a twist !"way but, rather in a "wow, that really doesn't make a lot of sense". The girl didn't even attempt to be social and was even downright vindicative, toward you and even more toward Alistair, while her whole plan was based upon convincing one of you to bed her.Not really efficient nor convincing (and just think how funny it would have been to see Morrigan trying - and failing - at being nice).
I'd be careful with the assumptions. Her plan (or Flemeth's plan, if you prefer) was to convince ANY Grey Warden to perform the ritual prior to the final battle. It doesn't have to be you or Alistair, and there's no way she could have known that the confrontation would come so soon -- unless you'd really prefer to think that her ideal plan was to make that kind of last-minute hard sell. Clearly she saw an opportunity and she took it, making the best out of a bad situation (especially if neither Alistair/Loghain or the PC were her biggest fans).
Or maybe Flemeth did know it would come down like that. Hard to say.-
The Mary Sue Syndrom when you are angry and she smug you "ahah screw you" and leave. Seriously. It was a /wallbang moment. I hope I don't have to explain why.
It seems it's become very common for people to invoke the "Mary Sue" comment when they simply wish to bash a character they don't like or don't understand. I don't think Morrigan fits your standard Mary Sue build, and certainly I don't see her as a projection of myself in the slightest. If you prefer to think of her as wielding the Plot Hammer, that's up to you, but that's not the same thing as being a Mary Sue, either.
Insofar as Morrigan leaving when she's in love with the player, I'll say this: Morrigan says right from the get go that she sees love as a weakness. Then she falls in love with you. Did it tempt her to sway from her mission? No doubt it did -- and that would have frightened her more than anything else, don't you think? It is possible to do what you have to do even when love is on the line. People who believe otherwise are, I think, being a little too romantic. And this is why Morrigan told you from the beginning that it wasn't going to work like you thought it would. She didn't want to get close, maybe even resented the fact that she was being sent for that very purpose -- especially when it went against her very nature. Whether you think she acted like she did because of or despite that is up to you.
As for the rest of the speculation, I'll leave that up to you all.
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Interesting posts Brockololly, thanks.
However, IIRC the DR happens because Morrigan got her hands on Flemeth's books.
Acharnae wrote...
Interesting posts Brockololly, thanks.
However, IIRC the DR happens because Morrigan got her hands on Flemeth's books.
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Modifié par Acharnae, 13 septembre 2010 - 04:38 .
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Brockololly wrote...
Acharnae wrote...
Interesting posts Brockololly, thanks.
However, IIRC the DR happens because Morrigan got her hands on Flemeth's books.
No, Morrigan offers the DR regardless of whether you do her quests and get the grimoires. You can ditch Morrigan at Lothering and she'll still show up at Redcliffe with the DR.
But I am curious what Morrigan found out in Flemeths' grimoire- is that where she learned Flemeth wasn't truly human or maybe where Morrigan learned more about the Eluvians?
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