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[UFOash]

Brockololly wrote...


Morrigan is skeptical of God of War/Devil May Cry waaaaay too big 2 handed sword DA2 gameplay footage....

Wow I hope they plan on changing that.
Doesn't look like much gameplay resemblance to DA1, and WTF with the ninja darkspawn!?

[ximena]

@PMA

Brockololly wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote...
I mean, am I completely crazy here, or is my viewpoint on the romance just as valid as others?  Are the reasons for my viewpoint legitimate or am I some freak who needs to take his appreciation of Morrigan elsewhere (joking about that, I'd  still obviously support Morrigan here, I just wouldn't bring this up again if I was shut down).

Morrigan is obviously a very independent strong willed woman, but at the same time, she is very much stunted emotionally. So part of it I think is that sure, on the surface she is the tough woman that can deal with everything herself . She likes dictating terms to the Warden, giving him the ring and potentially rescuing him from Fort Drakon. The thing is though that for her whole life, that survivalist, hard edged mentality was forced on her by Flemeth and hse hasn't had the chance to realize other aspects of her inner self- sort of the fogotten girl with the Golden Mirror.

So while in many ways Morrigan sort of wears the pants in the relationship, its not one sided. On the contrary, Morrigan likes it when the Warden teases her right back and is the whole "miserable bastard" routine.There is certainly a bit of the whole damsel in distress element- having to saly a dragon (Flemeth) to keep Morrigan safe. And certainly Morrigan does not want a one sided relationship- she views it as one between equals.

So I guess, I'd say its not a relationship thats clear cut one way or the other. Part of Morrigan is the emotionally unsure girl with the Golden Mirror thats discovering the world for the first time and still enthralled with shiny baubles. Thats the more vulnerable Morrigan, the more human Morrigan with doubts and flaws, the Morrigan that needs the Warden to rescue her from her evil dragon Mother Flemeth. That Morrigan is the one the Warden only sees when she has let her guard down. Then you've got the armored up Morrigan thats been taught everything by Flemeth, stating that survival has meaning, power has meaning yet love is a weakness, despite never having loved before that point so she is simply regurgitating Flemeth's indoctrination. Yet, in the end , Morrigan is a duty bound person with the DR and proves that even though she is in love with the Warden, she has to do something important to her even if it means forgoing her personal desires to be with the Warden. But of course all seems to potentially end as well as hoped for that realtionship in WItch Hunt.

But this all just gets back to what Terra and others have said- the Morrigan the Warden knows, the one that lets her guard down, is only known to the Warden. It would be a shame if that character development is dropped going forward by kicking the Warden off of the stage.

Actually Brock pretty much summed up my views on it hence the quote. I didn't actually miss your post, but I was on lurk mode because I wasn't really feeling good and ME2 has been eating my time. Plus I didn't know you were waiting for me to answer. Ahahaha. XD Anyway, yeah. Brock said my view on it. I would even shed tears on how he phrased that but my back muscles are bothering me too much. 

I see the Warden-Morrigan relationship as a relationship between two people who see each other as equals. Morrigan has the pants sometimes while The Warden steps up when she's not wearing it. Plus I see Morrigan liking a man who could go toe to toe with her especially with her snarky banter. The Warden could probably protet her at all times, but she'll make sure he knows she could take care of herself without his help. I see her as someone who wouldn't like all the doting the Warden can shower her. (E.g. She almost wanted to set someone on fire when she was at Eamon's estate for asking her if she needed a change of clothes.) But I also see her as someone who will let that guard down knowing the Warden cares for her. Though that will probably happen rarely.

One could say that in DW, Morrigan currently has the pants for ordering Edric to stay.

Okay. I think I'm just blabbering right now. XD

[Metalunatic]

Oh. My. God. That gameplay looks absolutely terrible. What have they done to the Dragon Age franchise!? I need to get my mind off this before my blood pressure skyrockets.

[Gennojo Ryuga]

Just saw the gameplay vid, a lot more fast paced. Reminds me of a Dynasty Warriors hack and slash style, dunno if that is a good or bad thing, we'll have to see more gameplay and character vids to get a better idea of the game.

[Shade of Wolf]

lilmeezer wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Shade of Wolf wrote...

I don't know if this has been messaged already, but my Warden was bugged and it acted as if I didn't do the ritual, but had the normal son and she says that he's on the other side of the mirror. I mean, what did she do, just throw him in, or was she after been in and out already?

I've wondered how she managed to seemingly get the OGB into Mirror World too. Did Morigan find some other Eluvian and toss the Old God Baby through? Or did Morrigan already go into Mirror World, leave the OGB with the baby sitter and then come back? But if Morrigan has already been to Mirror World then why did she come back to Thedas? Something doesn't add up to me...

Do you think she sent someone through first with the OGB (edited to add "or non-OGB child" LOL)? That would have made getting the mirror to let her go through even more "difficult" as she says, since they'd have already gone through.

Maybe the elf dude (can't remember his name) from the DE origin is still in there and he's taking care of OGB/other child

While on the mirror subject, can you only enter and *exit* from a mirror? If the one we entered get ''closed'' we could end up basically anywhere the other mirrors are, assuming there are others..

[Gennojo Ryuga]

Shade of Wolf wrote...

lilmeezer wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Shade of Wolf wrote...

I don't know if this has been messaged already, but my Warden was bugged and it acted as if I didn't do the ritual, but had the normal son and she says that he's on the other side of the mirror. I mean, what did she do, just throw him in, or was she after been in and out already?

I've wondered how she managed to seemingly get the OGB into Mirror World too. Did Morigan find some other Eluvian and toss the Old God Baby through? Or did Morrigan already go into Mirror World, leave the OGB with the baby sitter and then come back? But if Morrigan has already been to Mirror World then why did she come back to Thedas? Something doesn't add up to me...

Do you think she sent someone through first with the OGB (edited to add "or non-OGB child" LOL)? That would have made getting the mirror to let her go through even more "difficult" as she says, since they'd have already gone through.

Maybe the elf dude (can't remember his name) from the DE origin is still in there and he's taking care of OGB/other child

While on the mirror subject, can you only enter and *exit* from a mirror? If the one we entered get ''closed'' we could end up basically anywhere the other mirrors are, assuming there are others..

My Guess is wherever Morrigan and Warden are at this point is some central hub and linked to all other mirrors.  I don't think Morrigan would risk going through with no way of coming back at a later date.

[Shade of Wolf]

Stylish, powerful and sexy!

[KnightofPhoenix]

ximena wrote...

Hmmm. While you're all talking about cars, I was imagining Morrigan riding a motorcycle. Hurrhurr. Imagine her in leather. And boots. High-heeled boots. Then she stops beside you, removes that helmet. Hurrhurr. And you die from the awesomeness and sexiness.
 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 28 septembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[CalJones]

Oh that gameplay excerpt does not look good. o_O

The 2-hander doesn't look any bigger than the equivalent in DA:O, though.

[Shade of Wolf]

Ugghhh what happened to the Darkspawn? Are they Darkspawn or Undead?

That looks terrible.

[Gennojo Ryuga]

The art style for the Darkspawn is worrying, they are too..clean...for lack of a better word. I think Darkspawn appearance should have stayed the same.

[Brockololly]

Gennojo Ryuga wrote...
My Guess is wherever Morrigan and Warden are at this point is some central hub and linked to all other mirrors.  I don't think Morrigan would risk going through with no way of coming back at a later date.

Thats true- if Morrigan has any plan on coming back to Thedas for the Change or whatever she likely has some plan on getting back.

It was my impression that the Eluvians are sort of one way devices though too- once somebody goes into it its no good any more. So unless Morrigan knows of some other way of getting back to Thedas or knows of more Eluvians, how will she get back?

Oh, and lets try to keep discussion mostly to Morrigan and less general DA2 stuff- I know iI'm guilty for linking that video but  this thread was locked months ago when we went OT on the DA2 stuff and I'd like to keep it going yet;)

[lilmeezer]

Brockololly wrote...

Thats true- if Morrigan has any plan on coming back to Thedas for the Change or whatever she likely has some plan on getting back.

It was my impression that the Eluvians are sort of one way devices though too- once somebody goes into it its no good any more. So unless Morrigan knows of some other way of getting back to Thedas or knows of more Eluvians, how will she get back?

We really know next to nothing about the Eluvians, but we do know that they are ancient Elven creations. It sounds like they would have had a use at that time (Arlathan or before, whenever they were first created), and I will chance disagreeing with you Brock, to say that probably at that time they would have been able to be used over and over.  But, my guess is that now that they are very very old, their "warranty" LOL for lack of a better word, has run out and so their uses are limited. The magic and/or elves that kept the mirrors active and maintained are no longer around, so they have become archaic and have probably lost much of their original power (and things just have a tendency to begin to fall apart after a very long time). Plus, even with the book Morrigan was able to acquire, she still probably doesn't have the full knowledge of how to use the thing, or the full knowledge of what it was actually used for, so getting it to work now at least the once was chancy at best. So maybe now they can only be used once, but I would say that in ancient times, that was not the case.

Maybe Morrigan went through another one, from wherever she was with the OGB (after she was last "seen" in the Origins Epilogue) and returned to DragonBone Wastes for whatever reason (knowing the Warden would attempt to find her in the process), and left the OGB there in mirror land before returning to the Wastes.

There has to be some way to get back out, otherwise her story would end here and now. She'd be stuck in wherever-it-is-past-the-fade-land, otherwise.

Modifié par lilmeezer, 28 septembre 2010 - 05:35 .

[bl00dsh0t]

Well that video was underwhelming to say the least, but it did show the first few seconds of the game, which we know is the exagerated varric narration. But I doubt it will get any slower than that so the resemblance to dynasty warriors type games is annoyingly strong. Ill withhold judgement till I see the actual gameplay in a good resolution.

Honestly though who here even bothered with the combat in origins? It was the story that kept me coming back to the game, not the infinite boredom of that "tactical" gameplay. So imo as long as the gameplay is not a pain in the arse bad and the story good and the companions have depth comparable to origins.... I really don't give a rats ^^

The main issue with DA2 is still no morri and no warden, lets stick to that for criticism for now ;D

And to add to the "what car would morri drive" discussion: Dude's she can shapeshift into something that flies, why a car?

Edit: damn that did come out a bit weird ;D What I wanted to say with the criticism of the combat in origins was that once you had beat it in nightmare there was plain nothing fun fightwise to do. All nightmare did was make the opponents a bit tougher and frankly if you knew what you were doing and had a smart composition of classes it was a breeze. Some reaction type gameplay would, to me at least, be preferred. But hey, to each their own ^^

Modifié par bl00dsh0t, 28 septembre 2010 - 05:44 .

[Shade of Wolf]

lilmeezer wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Thats true- if Morrigan has any plan on coming back to Thedas for the Change or whatever she likely has some plan on getting back.

It was my impression that the Eluvians are sort of one way devices though too- once somebody goes into it its no good any more. So unless Morrigan knows of some other way of getting back to Thedas or knows of more Eluvians, how will she get back?

We really know next to nothing about the Eluvians, but we do know that they are ancient Elven creations. It sounds like they would have had a use at that time (Arlathan or before, whenever they were first created), and I will chance disagreeing with you Brock, to say that probably at that time they would have been able to be used over and over.  But, my guess is that now that they are very very old, their "warranty" LOL for lack of a better word, has run out and so their uses are limited. The magic and/or elves that kept the mirrors active and maintained are no longer around, so they have become archaic and have probably lost much of their original power (and things just have a tendency to begin to fall apart after a very long time). Plus, even with the book Morrigan was able to acquire, she still probably doesn't have the full knowledge of how to use the thing, or the full knowledge of what it was actually used for, so getting it to work now at least the once was chancy at best. So maybe now they can only be used once, but I would say that in ancient times, that was not the case.

Maybe Morrigan went through another one, from wherever she was with the OGB (after she was last "seen" in the Origins Epilogue) and returned to DragonBone Wastes for whatever reason (knowing the Warden would attempt to find her in the process), and left the OGB there in mirror land before returning to the Wastes.

There has to be some way to get back out, otherwise her story would end here and now. She'd be stuck in wherever-it-is-past-the-fade-land, otherwise.

Maybe Morrigan will help orchestrate the ''change'' from within mirror-land, although even I seriously doubt that.
@Brock
I too thought that the Mirrors were one-way, I was under the assumption that they ''uncharged'' after being used (I was at the screen like: 'Hurry, follow her before it closes!!)
I mean, was the baby literally thrown into the mirror seconds before the Warden arrived?
@lilmeezer
I think Morri knows way more than she let on.

[Terra_Ex]

I'll respond to PMA's post from several pages back since I've not spammed text for a while, though since Brock's thinking on all things Morrigan is disturbingly similar to my own, he's probably covered everything I will. I'll likely ramble incoherently for several paragraphs though as I'm pretty tired today.

[quote]PureMethodActor wrote...
I want to say that I love the Morrigan romance because, in my interpretation, I see several examples of gender role reversals, whether there are legitimate examples of such or my own interpretations/views of said examples. First off, I'm not under any illusion that the Warden most likely has to make the first move. Other than her offering to share the night with you after certain key moments/quests, the warden has to initiate and show interest in her. Given that, when the relationship starts, I sort of see a beginning of gender role-reversal in the romance. One key example I'd like to point out is when the Warden becomes a sort-of male "damsel-in-distress" if captured in the Denerim estate. Morrigan talks about the ring and how the Warden can be found. For full effect, I made sure Morrigan was part of the rescue pair, so that she could be my hero (pardon me, gotta gush a bit
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I personally don't see it as role reversals, well maybe to a lesser extent but it always balances itself out - Morrigan saves you from certain death, just as you save her from Flemeth. It's quite an equal balance in all things. For every line or action where you could perceive Morrigan as dominant, the warden will have responses/actions to tip the scales back to equality (and it works both ways) - this comes across most strongly in the wordplay, imo.

As in life, I think Morrigan likes to believe she's in control (particularly in the early stages, in line with Flemeth's teachings) and on a superficial level she does this by saying its just sex. Of course when she starts to develop feelings for the warden, she's in the weaker position, saying "release me". She lacks the requisite strenth at that point to break things off and is dependant on the warden to break that link. If you look at the scripting notes for the scene there's some very interesting stuff, but distilled down she is completely dependant on the warden taking action in the attempted break up scene.

As an aside, "'Tis cold in my tent" only ever shows up if you activate the romance flag, so stuff like "you can probe me anytime" tend to make it fire pretty early in the game.

[quote]PureMethodActor wrote...
Another good example is the ring. I mean, the Warden can straight-up ask if this means they're married. I don't mean to sound sexist, but that sort of gift is something a guy is usually supposed to give, and the warden asking about the implications is a stereotypical "girl" response.
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I can see the logic behind your thinking, however you can look at it another way if you question her regarding whether the ring could work in reverse for the warden to find Morrigan, which she somewhat skirts around while answering but you can easily infer from this that Morrigan is leaving the warden some means of finding her, so again it balances out the event. Personally I simply see it as a symbol of trust and affection, affirming Morrigan's desire to be close to the warden, even if she has to leave him in the future.

Conversely, some of the responses you can give to Ariane in WH elicit an almost sympathetic "she has such a hold over you" possibly alluding to the warden being ensorcelled to an extent, or at least falling under her spell. Again, this is a nice little nod to classic literature, you have the "hero" bewitched and led astray by the sorceress/witch. Ariane (like all other Origins companions) doesn't have a real connection with Morrigan in any meaningful way, in every playthrough it's only the warden that actually gets to know her- another aspect of what makes the romance special I suppose. My point- characters such as Ariane/Wynne/Alistair see her as the witch tempting the warden, while you the player are privy to additional knowledge, giving you a more balanced view of her true character.


[quote]PureMethodActor wrote...
I'd personally like to see more of Morrigan saying or doing things to let the warden know that he "belongs" to her. That kind of attitude makes me feel loved by her when I play Dragon age as a Morrigan-romancing Warden."
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While I don't think she ever states it explicitly in game, it's heavily implied that Morrigan marks the warden as her own - the ring, her objections to Isabella/other LI romances being key moments that stand out.


[quote]PureMethodActor wrote...
I'd like to hear from all of you whether my opinion, or my interpretation of the Morrigan romance is completely bogus or not. I mean, I see lots of depictions in fanart, some fanfiction, and just general discussions, depicting the warden as the stronger (a stereotypical male/female dynamic). While that is cool, and one of the reasons why Ximena's artwork and comic are so cool, it isn't my personal view of the romance. And I think views besides mine are completely valid. I would like to think the Morrigan romance can be interpreted in slightly different ways by different players because of how dynamic Morrigan's personality is. I'm a more gentle, passive man and therefore I look for stronger-willed, tough woman, and to me, Morrigan embodies that.
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In my eyes, Morrigan would only accept someone who she deemed her equal, in terms of power and intelligence, I personally don't believe she would tolerate anything less. I wouldn't say the warden is necessarily stronger than Morrigan.

Hmm, I think ximena has pulled a slight role reversal to an extent with Edric's failing health, but you still have the balance - he has moments of strength to contrast with it. It's very similar to the game really, you have to bow out to her on some issues, whilst pushing/challenging her on others. I think ximena's depiction is a natural progression to the Warden/Morri relationship - if the warden was to suddenly be facing his impending doom, I do believe she would almost immediately soften/melt (provided she was in the company of those she trusts).


[quote]PureMethodActor wrote...
Also, I could never do the "miserable bastard" act because I believed that would be too much brooding in one game. The belief that one can "fix," or "redeem," or just truly "save" Morrigan is what guided me, so when talking to her as Corviel, I kinda acted as a "knight-in-shining-armor" type out to fix the damaged young lady, often picking lines similar to "You are a wonderful person, and I want to help you." Needless to say I kinda felt seduced eventually as Morrigan would take Corviel in, and with things like giving the ring, sort of "claim" him as hers.[/quote]
An interesting remark on the knight comment, I've touched briefly upon the somewhat chivalric nature of aspects of the Morrigan romance/quest. Personally, I view it more as more of a Black Knight setup, I think the warden has to "fall" to a certain extent to be with Morrigan. You have the intoxicating appeal of such a complex character and you can just as easily become ensnared in her web whilst trying to "save" her, which makes a nice and very dangerous pairing. Just as Morrigan can be changed over the course of the game, surely it's not unthinkable that interacting with her changes your warden as well.

I can imagine she was a very difficult character to write, but the end result does speak for itself imo.


[quote]Brockololly wrote...
I don't know though. Presumably, the Warden will be far more knowledgable as to Morrigan's plans when he goes into Mirror World with her, yet will Morrigan sit down with him and let him know everything? I guess she could, since I'd think if there was anything she really didn't want him to know she wouldn't have let him follow her. But I'm guessing Morriganknows tons of things she isn't telling the Warden and I doubt, even if she trusts him, that she'll let him in on everything.
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If the warden is to return as PC/supporting character - maybe she'd tell him something. But then again, this being Morrigan I wouldn't put a "I do not wish to tell you" response past her. I do like your idea that whatever she's planning might not be something a romancing warden would necessarily approve of. Though for the mirror world ending, if you are supposed to be facing the future together, it would be logical to at least have some knowledge of what you will be facing...


[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Yeah, it just seems as if the player VO is a step backwards for actual gameplay and roleplaying. And the whole fact that Hawke will be pigeonholed into sarcastic, aggressive or diplomatic is a step back- even if those personality types were present but just hidden behind the scenes in DAO, it gave the illusion of greater choice with the silent PC and text lines. Instead with DA2, you're just bringing the mechanics into daylight reminding everyone that you're playing a game, which hurts immersion IMO.

Its like I brought up to Gaider in this thread from a little while ago: How can people in the video game industry know that a more "old school" game like BG2 wouldn't sell well, when nobody is making that kind of game? Origins was as close to an old school BioWare RPG as we've had for a while and by most accounts was well received critically and commercially. So why not head more in the old school direction instead of the ME direction?
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Good call on the mechanics, at its worst it borders on patronising for me, but yeah we've discussed that at length already.

I would have thought that Origins success demonstrated that certain "old school" aspects certainly do still appeal and can still sell in large numbers. Apparently though, we all want a more cinematic experience. I too don't see why both series must conform to one particular standard, I'd much rather see them both continue to stand and excel on the own strengths and merits, but the wheel & VO are the answers to all problems in the world.

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Exactly- I just hope the WH ending wasn't just BioWare throwing Morrigan romancing Wardens a bone to go shut up so that come DA3 time they can come up with some reason why the Warden can't be there, simply so they don't have to deal with all the results of a "no canon" approach. You would think that given Witch Hunt's ending especially with the Morrigan romance, that the Warden would play an important role in anything regarding Morrigan in the future. But who knows? DA3 is a looooooooong ways away. For all we know something in DA2 may shake up all of our little DA3 speculation plans.
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It could be and will only become apparent in time but it would be a weak way to end it. Plus, as Morri fans we've always got to have something to worry/complain about and at this stage the only thing we can viably grumble/mull over are the various WH endings potential consequences and how BioWare chooses to handle it. 

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
I've wondered how she managed to seemingly get the OGB into Mirror World too. Did Morigan find some other Eluvian and toss the Old God Baby through? Or did Morrigan already go into Mirror World, leave the OGB with the baby sitter and then come back? But if Morrigan has already been to Mirror World then why did she come back to Thedas? Something doesn't add up to me...
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In the Gaider quote where he said people should cut the Morrigan romancers some slack, Gaider stated that there was a very good reasoning behind why we got nothing. Now while I assume that the Orlais thing has now morphed somewhat to suit the current plan but there was no real explanation given as to what was so important in this year long period that Morrigan had to perform solo. So either sloppy restitching of plot threads or something we'll discover in the future maybe. Presumably if Morri intends to go through the mirror and insinuates that you won't be able to find her the OGB must have gone through beforehand, particularly as she refers to both herself and him as beyond your reach.

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
But that has me wondering though too. Really, Witch Hunt is an optional DLC too. So what does that mean, if anything? Its stuff like that which makes me hope BioWare knows what they're doing going forward and with the import system. What if some guy  that romanced Morrigan but never played WH imports into DA2 and to DA3 where lets say Morrigan returns? Does that mean BIoWare comes up with default choices if you're missing DLC or what?
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A good point, I don't know tbh - I'd assume a default choice would be applied. I believe BW said that those starting DA2 from scratch would have a default story, presumably this would apply to plot-relevant DLCs as well.

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Exactly- I can remember finishing up BG2 and Throne of Bhaal and then seeing what BioWare was working on next, Neverwinter Nights. "Oh its primarily a multplayer game? Huh..." I know many people liked NWN for the modules but even if you got into the single player campaign, they went off in a different direction with the first expansion then seemingly tried to tie things back together in the second expansion, what with Aribeth being dead and all. Thats my concern with DA- that in order to get that continuity with certain characters between games, the character development you've built up gets Plot Hammered or marginalized to fit the story of the new game.
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My thoughts exactly after learning of the multiplayer focus and a testament to why I never want to see any form of multiplayer/co-op etc in DA. I personally have very little interest in player created modules - nice to have I suppose but you'll rarely see dialogue that's comparable to the core game. Plot hammering certain characters is certainly the easiest way to force them into a set role and its especially concerning with such a diverse character as Morrigan.

[quote]Brockololly wrote...
Heh- "somewhat perturbed." There will be full on nerd rage if unsavory Warden/Morrigan shenanigans goes down. I think it all comes down to how much resources BioWare puts into maintaining Morrigan as a result of our choices in Origins and WH. Do they continue that thread or do they only tenuously touch on it while endorsing some generic version of Morrigan for sake of keeping things accessible to new players?
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Haha, you've got a good few years to store up all that rage Brock, I'll likely join you if that comes to pass[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]. I know what approach would work for me as a Morrigan fan and wiping the slate clean to pander to the crowd that didn't buy the previous game(s) is not it.


On the DA2 gameplay video - 'tis only the console version's combat so I'll wait for some actual PC gameplay before commenting further. What I saw in the video reminds me of Drakengard and the main problem there is that the combat got old pretty quick. So long as it doesn't affect the PC experience I'm not too fussed.

On Morrigan & vehicles, I agree with ximena that Morri would definitely fit the biker image. The warden's vehicle meanwhile has to be this, which he bought to make himself feel better after almost a year of fruitless searching... Or maybe he could paint "have you seen this woman" on the side post-Awakening and cruise around Thedas. I've just got a new shiny car myself but I think I'd get some funny looks if I was sporting this kind of look.





[quote]Brockololly wrote...

[quote]ximena wrote...
Hmmm. While you're all talking about cars,
I was imagining Morrigan riding a motorcycle. Hurrhurr. Imagine her in
leather. And boots. High-heeled boots. Then she stops beside you,
removes that helmet. Hurrhurr. And you die from the awesomeness and
sexiness. [/quote]

Haha- nice. I can picture that- removes the helmet does the sexy slow motion hair shake- hahaha
I like how you think Ximena[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
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Damn, I just pictured it in my head and yeah, 'tis a nice image [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 28 septembre 2010 - 06:12 .

[blademaster7]

Terra_Ex wrote...

I want this!

Is it a car from Forza Motorsport?

Modifié par blademaster7, 28 septembre 2010 - 09:06 .

[Barbarossa2010]

blademaster7 wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...

I want this!

Is it a car from Forza Motorsport?

Well, if it is, that's a sold game!

BTW, you'll be happy to know that I am posting from my brand new rig. Core I7, 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, and a Radeon 5700 series graphics card.  I have joined nerd-dom only slightly behind in complete hardware badass-edness.  I should be good for the foreseeable future of gaming!!! I plan on buying the ultimate edition in OCT (for PC, yes, that's right I said "PC") and use Terra_ex's stuff immediately thereafter.

[Brockololly]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Well, if it is, that's a sold game!

BTW, you'll be happy to know that I am posting from my brand new rig. Core I7, 8 GB of DDR3 RAM, and a Radeon 5700 series graphics card.  I have joined nerd-dom only slightly behind in complete hardware badass-edness.  I should be good for the foreseeable future of gaming!!! I plan on buying the ultimate edition in OCT (for PC, yes, that's right I said "PC") and use Terra_ex's stuff immediately thereafter.

Nice.

I quite like my 5770- it runs DA and most games very nicely and I might get another down the road to crossfire.

That stinks that you haven't been able to use Terra's mod yet though- get on that!

[tinman0925]

At the end of Witch Hunt Morrigan states that she has left me the book and something else of importance. When the Warden walks over to see what she has left , there are what looks like two books a then the game gredits roll . Am I failing to grasp something ? What is the item of importance that she speaks of ? My apologies in advance if this question has been answered already but 411 pages is a lot to sift through

Modifié par tinman0925, 29 septembre 2010 - 02:12 .

[Brockololly]

tinman0925 wrote...

At the end of Witch Hunt Morrigan states that she has left me the book and something else of importance. When the Warden walks over to see what she has left , there are what looks like two books a then the game gredits roll . Am I failing to grasp something ? What is the item of importance that she speaks of ? My apologies in advance if this question has been answered already but 411 pages is a lot to sift through

Nope thats just how Witch Hunt abruptly ends if you don't go through the Eluvian with her. Nobody knows exactly what that second book she left behind is- the first is the Dalish book she stole, but the second? Maybe FLemeth's grimoire maybe? Nobody knows.

Its lame, I know.

[tinman0925]

Thanks Brock. Lame would be an understatement and compunded by the fact that it was probably the last time I will see my Warden makes it super lame !

[ximena]

Morri drawing to kick things off!

PureMethodActor wrote...



ximena: I didn't know your opinion was already posted. My apologies for bothering you. I just wanted to see the words of the "Demons Within" creator, herself about my topic

Oh. Haha. It's no trouble. XD It's just that Brock was already able to say in that post what I would have said.  

SECOND EDIT: Final one I swear... anyway, to simplify things, I guess before Witch Hunt and before going to this thread and seeing other stuff, I could have equivicated the Morrigan/Warden romance to this song, which is one of my favorites:

"A Touch Of Evil" by Judas Priest

The song itself on the surface is about a man's growing attraction to black magic, but you can analyze it as a dark love theme as well, a love theme I happen to be attracted to after spending so many years in the past as a goody-two-shoes catholic good-guy who got spurned so many times in his life. Eventually you just give in to the darker side of oneself.

I like to think now that Morrigan has the perfect balance of light and dark in her personality.

My song for the romance has always been "The Fragile" by Nine Inch Nails. Though it speaks more of how the warden wishes to "save" Morrigan.  Lyrics here:

She shines

In a world full of ugliness

She matters when everything is meaningless



Fragile

She doesn't see her beauty

She tries to get away

Sometimes

It's just that nothing seems worth saving

I can't watch her slip away



I won't let you fall apart



She reads the minds of all the people as they pass her by

Hoping someone can see

If i could fix myseld i'd-

But it's too late for me



I wont let you fall apart



We'll find the perfect place to go where we can run and hide

I'll build a wall and we can keep them on the other side

...but they keep waiting

...and picking...



It's something i have to do

I was there, too

Before everyhting else

I was like you

Terra_Ex wrote...
Hmm, I think ximena has pulled a slight role reversal to an extent with
Edric's failing health, but you still have the balance - he has moments
of strength to contrast with it. It's very similar to the game really,
you have to bow out to her on some issues, whilst pushing/challenging
her on others. I think ximena's depiction is a natural progression to
the Warden/Morri relationship - if the warden was to suddenly be facing
his impending doom, I do believe she would almost immediately
soften/melt (provided she was in the company of those she trusts).

Indeed. There is a slight role reversal in DW with Edric now just kicking back waiting for the two ladies in his life to come up with something. Though he'd do something if he finds something to do. And do note that there's quite a long amount of time between Origins and DW. Lots of time for character development. Reasons currently only exist in my head. XD

Though really, in DW I still haven't shown Morrigan interacting with strangers. She still only shows her other side to her daughter and Edric.

Modifié par ximena, 29 septembre 2010 - 02:44 .