Brockololly wrote...
Oh, I think its Morrigan killing that Templar. And no doubt she has killed Templars and such who would no sooner kill her. The thing is though, that thats all she has been taught and conditioned by Flemeth- she hasn't had any opposing viewpoints on the world really until the Warden arrives. Its not like Morrigan enjoyed Flemeth's teachings either as is evidence in the banter:
Hmph. My mother's stories curdled my blood and haunted my dreams. (VO note: with a bit of bitterness and resentment)
No little girl wants to hear about the Wilder men her mother took to her bed, using them till they were spent, then killing them. No little girl wants to be told that this is also expected of her, once she comes of age.
So its not like Morrigan loves everything Flemeth taught her.
And while she has ventured out into the Lothering, thats hardly the world at large- she is shocked when she goes into the Denrim marketplace and says as much :
What I want is to see mountains. I wish to witness the ocean and step into its waters. I want to experience a city rather than see it in my mind. VO note: what she really wants is to experience life outside
So its not just that she wants to simply go out into Lothering on her own, its that she wants to experience the world without Flemeth looking over her shoulder too. Heck, even Flemeth says as much:
It would be interesting to see what she does with her freedom. Enlightening, even. Would you give an old woman that?
So it seems that Flemeth realizes Morrigan is open to becoming her own person once outside of her control and that Morrigan may develop her own ideas of the world once outside of her control- and the Warden is one of the people who will influence what sort of a person Morrigan likely becomes.
I don't know if you've played Mass Effect but Garrus was similar (albeit much more boring & less hot
) but in ME2 he always ends up the same way.
I doubt your going to change Morrigan by convincing her she could've been a chantry mage.
Its hardly unusual I mean all young adults want to leave the nest & find their own views, Morrigan herself says that Flemeths teachings had helped her survive & had been necessary to their survival in the Koracari Wilds as not only Apostates but known witches.
She may not like what Flemeth told her, but she uses it constantly (shes willing to sleep with the likes of Loghain, Alistair or any **** Warden for her OGB).
Granted, Flemeth is strict & often uncaring that her daughter was only a child.
That quote from Flemeth wasn't said in any kind of hostile way, interest in how her daughter grows up is hardly a bad trait, Flemeth may well be evil but we have scarce proof of any actual evil from Flemeth so far.
Brockololly wrote...
Flemeth makes you her puppet from the very start by saving you at Ostagar. She might say it was just for fighting the Blight, but still, she is so evasive...
She is very evasive, no doubt that has helped wind these stories up & it implies she has done evil things (if you ask Flemeth about the tales or whatever she normally just laughs or dodges the question, as you say) but lets not forget Morrigan was with her for all her life (whats like like 20 something years?) I'm sure not only has she seen Flemeth's goings on but has probably participated in whatever she does.
She never, however, makes you her puppet.
Their is no catch to saving her except taking Morrigan (which considering the thread were on is not to be taken as a bad thing) & she lets you do whatever you want never asking anything of you even allowing you to "kill" her.
Brockololly wrote...
UFOash wrote...
What race was this? If its the Elves they are not destroyed.
The elven immortality was destroyed by the Tevinters enslaving them- and much of their culture lost.
Brockololly wrote...
UFOash wrote...
Now also was this the Tevinter Imperium or just mages from Tevinter, in fact either way the leaders of Tevinter then & the mages will be long dead & I just feel its wrong to blaim an entire nation for what it has or its people have done in the past, the same reason I don't really like Loghain's Anti-Orlesian attitude.
Sure, but thats just how history works, no? The sins of the father and all that- Thats why we still have wars over religion and various other things that happened hundreds of years ago.
Well the way I thought about this was that Tevinter is based on the Ottomans, yes?
Now the Ottomans did some pretty bad stuff (just ask the Armenians) but it would be harsh to hate Turkey completely & state you will not rest until it is obliterated.
The Tevinters are presented mostly as evil people but whether this is the case or not (this is a game, after all) in reality I find it hard to comprehend that any entire nationality of people is evil or bad.
Also I think you'll find in reality at least feuds can dissolve quite quickly, look at Britain (which Ferelden is based off), they allied with American & Russia in the Wars despite being at war with them only years earlier.
Orlais wasn't long ago (it is stated on the loading screens most Fereldens can still remember vividly Orlesian rule) but Tevinter's time in Ferelden & the black city was
long ago & lets not forget the Fereldens themselves enslaved Elves too so were as much to blame, besides everyone else has to live mortal lives its not that big a deal & the Dalish still retain Elven culture so they weren't hit that badly.
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