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[ximena]

Haha. While thinking of what Movie Morrigan would enjoy, I kinda ended up just thinking that Morrigan would just find something to insult in most of the movies nowadays. And those insults are probably amusing. XD I think I'd want to accompany her to the movies just to hear what kind of amusing comment she'd say after.



Any thoughts on what she would say about certain titles?

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Haha. While thinking of what Movie Morrigan would enjoy, I kinda ended up just thinking that Morrigan would just find something to insult in most of the movies nowadays. And those insults are probably amusing. XD I think I'd want to accompany her to the movies just to hear what kind of amusing comment she'd say after.

Any thoughts on what she would say about certain titles?

Hahaha- this reminded me of one of Aimo's comics- context being I think Steve Valentine wrote on twitter that he liked Twilight or something- hence Morrigan and Aimo's dwarven noble yakking it up at the expense of Alistair and Twilight...



:lol:
I imagine Morrigan insulting during a movie would be a bit like Mystery Science Theater 3000 type commentary.:lol:

Modifié par Brockololly, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:59 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Took me two days, and that was just reading from about page 360 when WH was released (I've no desire to relive the days prior to that...lol), but I'm finally caught up. It's extremely impressive you guys have managed to keep it going this long with basically nothing but long sessions of text and debate and ranting.

Movies for Morrigan? Yeah, Brock has it right - she'd probably end up recording her own library of MST3K/RiffTrax type stuff. Also lol'd hard at Oghren in that Aimo comic above me.

I get the sense she might like Kubrick's body of the work, though.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 05 octobre 2010 - 07:11 .

[Morrigans God son]

Looking at that picture, I have this insane vision of Oghren and Alistair watching a chick flick together.

[Brockololly]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Took me two days, and that was just reading from about page 360 when WH was released (I've no desire to relive the days prior to that...lol), but I'm finally caught up. It's extremely impressive you guys have managed to keep it going this long with basically nothing but long sessions of text and debate and ranting.

Haha- yes, the DA2 announcement was a dark time for the Morri thread, full of angst and rage. Dark times indeed Good on you for reading through all of this stuff- somebody should collect a "Best of" rant collection- ha.

I get the sense she might like Kubrick's body of the work, though.

I could see that maybe- I'd guess much like how Morrigan doesn't outwardly act like she likes jewelry but secretly does, that she may secretly like certain movies but would never tell anyone but maybe the Warden. So I'm calling it- Morrigan is a Monty Python fan. I can just imagine Morrigan doing the silly walk- waaahaha

============================================
And some further Morrigan news!
From this interview with Laidlaw about DA2, we have this question about Morrigan:

Can we expect to see Morrigan return in Dragon Age II?

Morrigan’s story s not over even after the Witch Hunt DLC, and although I can’t go too far into it, I can say that she’s not done with this world by any stretch of the imagination.

*sigh* See, normally that would make me happy. But in light of the quotes from Brent Knowles on DA2 and all of the other general nonsense into making DA2 more of an action RPG like ME....ugh. Suffice it to say at this stage the only reason I'm still interested in DA overall is the story. And so help me God, if BioWare screws up the Morrigan story in th future by not bringing back the Warden and Old God Baby right alongside her, I'm done with BioWare. I'll say it again- Morrigan and the world of DA is only interesting through the perspective of the PC- namely, the Warden. You bring back Morrigan while hand waving away the Warden and thats just proof to me that BioWare is clueless.

Modifié par Brockololly, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:16 .

[ximena]

Brockololly wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Took me two days, and that was just reading from about page 360 when WH was released (I've no desire to relive the days prior to that...lol), but I'm finally caught up. It's extremely impressive you guys have managed to keep it going this long with basically nothing but long sessions of text and debate and ranting.

Haha- yes, the DA2 announcement was a dark time for the Morri thread, full of angst and rage. Dark times indeed Good on you for reading through all of this stuff- somebody should collect a "Best of" rant collection- ha.

I get the sense she might like Kubrick's body of the work, though.

I could see that maybe- I'd guess much like how Morrigan doesn't outwardly act like she likes jewelry but secretly does, that she may secretly like certain movies but would never tell anyone but maybe the Warden. So I'm calling it- Morrigan is a Monty Python fan. I can just imagine Morrigan doing the silly walk- waaahaha

I suddenly had this picture bunny of our wardens sitting together ranting about the way things turned out. XD "With romancing warden support group." Hahaha.

Then after WH, most of the chairs have been left vacant. XD

============================================
And some further Morrigan news!
From this interview with Laidlaw about DA2, we have this question about Morrigan:

Can we expect to see Morrigan return in Dragon Age II?

Morrigan’s story s not over even after the Witch Hunt DLC, and although I can’t go too far into it, I can say that she’s not done with this world by any stretch of the imagination.

*sigh* See, normally that would make me happy. But in light of the quotes from Brent Knowles on DA2 and all of the other general nonsense into making DA2 more of an action RPG like ME....ugh. Suffice it to say at this stage the only reason I'm still interested in DA overall is the story. And so help me God, if BioWare screws up the Morrigan story in th future by not bringing back the Warden and Old God Baby right alongside her, I'm done with BioWare. I'll say it again- Morrigan and the world of DA is only interesting through the perspective of the PC- namely, the Warden. You bring back Morrigan while hand waving away the Warden and thats just proof to me that BioWare is clueless.

Aye. Like I said before, dealing with Morrigan with another PC isn't quite as engaging as it would be with The Warden.

Modifié par ximena, 05 octobre 2010 - 05:30 .

[Terra_Ex]

ximena wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Took me two days, and that was just reading from about page 360 when WH was released (I've no desire to relive the days prior to that...lol), but I'm finally caught up. It's extremely impressive you guys have managed to keep it going this long with basically nothing but long sessions of text and debate and ranting.

Haha- yes, the DA2 announcement was a dark time for the Morri thread, full of angst and rage. Dark times indeed Good on you for reading through all of this stuff- somebody should collect a "Best of" rant collection- ha.

I get the sense she might like Kubrick's body of the work, though.

I could see that maybe- I'd guess much like how Morrigan doesn't outwardly act like she likes jewelry but secretly does, that she may secretly like certain movies but would never tell anyone but maybe the Warden. So I'm calling it- Morrigan is a Monty Python fan. I can just imagine Morrigan doing the silly walk- waaahaha

I suddenly had this picture bunny of our wardens sitting together ranting about the way things turned out. XD "With romancing warden support group." Hahaha.

Then after WH, most of the chairs have been left vacant. XD

heh, much like this thread I'd say. The romancing warden's struggle is never over.

A definite yes to the "best of" rants suggestion. It'd take a while to compile though.

Side note, lots of nice posts I hope to get around to responding to in the near future in a suitably lengthy post.

[UFOash]

Off-topic a little (only a little though), say someone has little memory or cash to throw down the darin & decides not the buy DA2, do you think DA3 (assuming it will ever come to be) will let you import straight from DA:O?

Without Morrigan, The Warden & Ferelden I'm not really sure what DA2 really has to offer, especially looking at the DA2 gameplay posted on here abit ago.

[Morrigans God son]

That is great news!  A toast to more Morrigan! ( Can we get a Morrigan picture in this thread or what? )
Oh...if only Mike Laidlaw would become a writer....

[MoSa09]

Morrigans God son wrote...

That is great news!  A toast to more Morrigan! ( Can we get a Morrigan picture in this thread or what? )
Oh...if only Mike Laidlaw would become a writer....

I am not so sure i'd like that. Laidlaw seems to be the source and driving force of many ideas for DA 2 i do not like, and his all the same phrases and bro emphasis "hotrod samurai style"...

The writing is what still keeps me interested in the franchise, and after all those changes, i would prefer if at least the writers who made Origins the game it were write the remaining story as well.

And instead of a picture, i offer this comic of the all so famous, talented and amazing aimo

[Skyl4rk]

[quote]Brockololly wrote...



I could see that maybe- I'd guess much like how Morrigan doesn't outwardly act like she likes jewelry but secretly does, that she may secretly like certain movies but would never tell anyone but maybe the Warden. So I'm calling it- Morrigan is a Monty Python fan. I can just imagine Morrigan doing the silly walk- waaahaha

[quote]



That and perhaps knocking two coconuts together while the party reaches its destination.



[quote]Brockololly wrote...



*sigh* See, normally that would make me happy. But in light of the quotes from Brent Knowles on DA2 and all of the other general nonsense into making DA2 more of an action RPG like ME....ugh. Suffice it to say at this stage the only reason I'm still interested in DA overall is the story. And so help me God, if BioWare screws up the Morrigan story in th future by not bringing back the Warden and Old God Baby right alongside her, I'm done with BioWare. I'll say it again- Morrigan and the world of DA is only interesting through the perspective of the PC- namely, the Warden. You bring back Morrigan while hand waving away the Warden and thats just proof to me that BioWare is clueless.



[quote]



The prospect of the Warden and OGB being dropped makes me one sad panda. Even if he/she was just reduced to a blurb in the codex, it still wouldn't cut it. In fact, it would feel slightly insulting imho. It's like saying, "well thank you for your hard work and dedication. Now here's your consolation honorary mention prize." That would certainly leave a sour taste. The story may yet still be interesting and engaging and the major plot completely resolved, but w/o the Warden it would feel incomplete.



[quote]ximena wrote...



I suddenly had this picture bunny of our wardens sitting together ranting about the way things turned out. XD "With romancing warden support group." Hahaha.



Then after WH, most of the chairs have been left vacant. XD



[quote]



Look above; if Bioware/EA make that mistake (and I say that word in confidence b/c I honestly think it would be), those chairs might yet be occupied once more.



Okay, enough pessimism and more speculations. So, I'll get this one started again:

I'm not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but did anyone else get the feeling during Morrigan's “change” speech that the fate of the old gods are being foreshadowed here? In the part where she says, “…sometimes change is what sets them free”, I suddenly thought of the old gods and the taint. I know she’s referring to the people of Thedas, but could this also apply to the old gods being freed from their prison and/or the taint? What do you guys think?

[Skyl4rk]

^n00b mistake...You can tell I'm not used to forums.

Modifié par Skyl4rk, 05 octobre 2010 - 07:40 .

[UFOash]

MoSa09 wrote...

Morrigans God son wrote...

That is great news!  A toast to more Morrigan! ( Can we get a Morrigan picture in this thread or what? )
Oh...if only Mike Laidlaw would become a writer....

I am not so sure i'd like that. Laidlaw seems to be the source and driving force of many ideas for DA 2 i do not like, and his all the same phrases and bro emphasis "hotrod samurai style"...

The writing is what still keeps me interested in the franchise, and after all those changes, i would prefer if at least the writers who made Origins the game it were write the remaining story as well.

And instead of a picture, i offer this comic of the all so famous, talented and amazing aimo

Bit small?
I went to say ^that^ but when I quoted it suddenly its huge.

If you put it in your post as big as I'm seeing it now I guess it must be the forum shrinking it.

[Brockololly]

Terra_Ex wrote...
A definite yes to the "best of" rants suggestion. It'd take a while to compile though.

I actually was perusing the earlier stuff from around the time of DA2's announcement or when Gaider posted- oh what heady days those were!<_<

Terra_Ex wrote...
Side note, lots of nice posts I hope to get around to responding to in the near future in a suitably lengthy post.

Looking forward to it!

MoSa09 wrote...
I am not so sure i'd like that. Laidlaw seems to be the source and  driving force of many ideas for DA 2 i do not like, and his all the same phrases and bro emphasis "hotrod samurai style"...

Yeah....well I'll leave it at that=]

MoSa09 wrote...
The writing  is what still keeps me interested in the franchise, and after all those  changes, i would prefer if at least the writers who made Origins the  game it were write the remaining story as well.

Yeah, the story and the writing is whats keeping me interested right now. But like how Awakening illustrated, you can have fine writing but if the dialogue system sucks, it doesn't matter.

MoSa09 wrote...
And instead of a picture, i offer this comic of the all so famous, talented and amazing aimo
*snip*

The great thing about that comic is that I think Aimo did that like the summer before Origins was out, before we even knew much about the characters- and it fits Morrigan wonderfully.

Skyl4rk wrote...
The prospect of the Warden and OGB being dropped makes me one sad panda.  Even if he/she was just reduced to a blurb in the codex, it still  wouldn't cut it. In fact, it would feel slightly insulting imho. It's  like saying, "well thank you for your hard work and dedication. Now  here's your consolation honorary mention prize." That would certainly  leave a sour taste.

Thats the conundrum as I see it- if we never had Witch Hunt and perhaps they relegated the Warden to a codex entry or just in passing mentioned how he never found Morrigan and they went on to do whatever they had planned with Morrigan, it would suck, first of all. But IF they have no plans for the Warden going forward and are just going to make the Warden disposable again post WItch Hunt, what was the point?

Basically, the ending to Witch Hunt, for any Warden but especially if you went through the Eluvian with Morrigan, almost neccesitates bringing the Warden back whenever Morrigan comes back, which she will. To bring Morrigan back but not the Warden and then go "Oh hey guys! Look Morrigan is back! Isn't that cool! Look how dark, grim and sexy we made her in our hot rod samurai art style! Isn't that badass!?" would just be completely missing the point.

Whether you gut stabbed Morrigan or went through the portal with her, those consequences need to be dealt with by the Warden, anything else comes across as cheap, stupid and clueless as to why some people want Morrigan back. You bring Morrigan back but not the Warden and that sure as hell isn't my Morrigan.

Skyl4rk wrote...
I'm not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but did anyone else get the  feeling during Morrigan's “change” speech that the fate of the old gods  are being foreshadowed here? In the part where she says, “…sometimes  change is what sets them free”, I suddenly thought of the old gods and  the taint. I know she’s referring to the people of Thedas, but could  this also apply to the old gods being freed from their prison and/or the taint? What do you guys think?

Thats a good point- I've thought she could be referring to the Old Gods in some way, but always figured the "Change is what sets them free" part referred to the people of Thedas, not necessarily the Old Gods. But it possibly makes more sense if its the Old Gods she is referring to given the possiblity of the Old God baby and everything. I mean, whatever that change is it would seem to be something the Wardens should be mindful of, as she specifically tells the Orlesian to have the Wardens on guard. And the Wardens have a pretty close connection to the Old Gods, what with the Blights and all. Lots of cool possibilities there though.

UFOash wrote...
Bit small?
I went to say ^that^ but when I quoted it suddenly its huge. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

If you put it in your post as big as I'm seeing it now I guess it must be the forum shrinking it.

Right click, view image:wizard:

Modifié par Brockololly, 05 octobre 2010 - 09:54 .

[UFOash]

Brockololly wrote...

UFOash wrote...
Bit small?
I went to say ^that^ but when I quoted it suddenly its huge. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

If you put it in your post as big as I'm seeing it now I guess it must be the forum shrinking it.

Right click, view image:wizard:

Hmm...
The closest thing I can find is "Show Picture" but its greyed out
Ah well, I read it anyway when I was quoting MoSa

[Deckers]

I've decided to try and cobble together a decent theme for my PS3 (since unlike with the XBOX, there is no sold DA:O theme etc, and the base sony one is getting dull), my only issue is, if I take a background, most Morri involving images use her concept art and I can't create anything myself (in-game wise, and I've no desire to look at my own artwork as my theme, not that I'm incapable though) because I have no screenshot ability as far as I know, let alone the toolset to stage anything.

I don't expect anyone to know how to put a dynamic theme background (animated or slideshow using backgrounds are enabled on ps3's) but some suggestions/material would be awesome!

If there's a kind soul on a pc with idle time and an artistic mind I suppose I could try to recreate my warden with the character creator, I don't think the face is much different at all to one of the presets really.

Oh, yeah, typically a silent lurker here but I have actually read every page of this thread, s'a much better place for discussion than the group; I don't think I got a reply to my last post there.
So, yeah, keep it up! I may one day be willing to join in and write long, epic posts, my first post on these forums was pretty long and firmly rooted in the Morri-related cynicism Brock & Terra usually display as I recall

As for the "best of" rants discussion, you make me feel like scrounging for some of my first posts!

On the current Flemeth line of thought, I wouldn't hazzard a guess at what she is, but in my mind she's always been related to the old gods and origin of the darkspawn, the identical symbology in origins' intro and her grimoire's cover is obviously intentional and meant to spark all our "what if?" thoughts.
Personally, I don't think they actually settle all these things, I think they link a lot of things they haven't written yet just to torment us inquisitive types.

At any rate, the interview many pages back with Laidlaw had abated my fear of codex entry 'deaded' warden in mirror world or otherwise, the recent light shedding on the ex-lead designer's reasons for leaving however have rained on that parade.

I'd write more but, bed calls.

Modifié par Deckers, 05 octobre 2010 - 11:35 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Brockololly wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...
A definite yes to the "best of" rants suggestion. It'd take a while to compile though.

I actually was perusing the earlier stuff from around the time of DA2's announcement or when Gaider posted- oh what heady days those were!<_<

Hah, I was actually browsing my own posts from the very beginnings of the this thread and some speculation to friends of mine on another forum. It's almost upsetting how far off the mark I was with speculation regarding post-Awakening content, DA2, "the Warden isn't done", etc. I was absolutely convinced an expansion, if not a sequel, set in Orlais was coming up next.

But hey, at least I correctly called Oghren being the Origins companion in Awakening. <_<

MoSa09 wrote...
I am not so sure i'd like that. Laidlaw seems to be the source and  driving force of many ideas for DA 2 i do not like, and his all the same phrases and bro emphasis "hotrod samurai style"...

Yeah....well I'll leave it at that=]

Truth be told, the changes being made that don't directly relate to the narrative and writing (i.e. Hawke, voiced protaganist, etc.) I'm not particularly upset with. So long as the changes made for the conosle don't bleed over to the PC (and the 3rd-party previews seem to indicate they aren't), I'm okay.

Just wish they'd stop using that goddman "Think like a General, fight like a Spartan" marketing line. It's cheesy and all it's doing is trying to draw (silly) comparisons to God of War and 300. I get it, 300 was a cool movie - hell, I liked it. Stop confusing it with Dragon Age.

Skyl4rk wrote...
I'm not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but did anyone else get the  feeling during Morrigan's “change” speech that the fate of the old gods  are being foreshadowed here? In the part where she says, “…sometimes  change is what sets them free”, I suddenly thought of the old gods and  the taint. I know she’s referring to the people of Thedas, but could  this also apply to the old gods being freed from their prison and/or the taint? What do you guys think?

Thats a good point- I've thought she could be referring to the Old Gods in some way, but always figured the "Change is what sets them free" part referred to the people of Thedas, not necessarily the Old Gods. But it possibly makes more sense if its the Old Gods she is referring to given the possiblity of the Old God baby and everything. I mean, whatever that change is it would seem to be something the Wardens should be mindful of, as she specifically tells the Orlesian to have the Wardens on guard. And the Wardens have a pretty close connection to the Old Gods, what with the Blights and all. Lots of cool possibilities there though.

I think most people accept that this change Morrigan (and Flemeth, I guess) speak of involves the Old Gods somehow. But I don't personally think "Change is what sets them free" refers specifically to the Old Gods themselves.

I do like the idea of the Old Gods being set loose upon the world. That would bring about some pretty damn big change to the world, and would be something the Wardens would be highly concerned about. Possibly even welcome, if they're free of the taint, or they might view it as the opportunity to destroy the remaining two potential archdemons.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 06 octobre 2010 - 12:49 .

[UFOash]

"Think like a general, fight like a spartan"

Never heard that before till now, if DA2 is anything like 300 I'll end up stopping it after ten minutes and taking it back just like I did with 300!

Modifié par UFOash, 06 octobre 2010 - 11:51 .

[ximena]

I actually cringe every time Mike lashes that phrase out in his speeches/interviews. *shudders now* I am unsure why, but it just makes me cringe. XD (But perhaps it's my inner marketing copywriter self saying "NOOOOO!" at the phrase.)



And I say yes to the rant collection too. Maybe we could call it "The Morrigan Fan's (Pessimistic) Manifesto."



Or something. Haha.

[Morrigans God son]

Glad I'm not the only one who hates that cheesy phrase. I was starting to panic, thinking that the fanbase liked that sort of thing.



A question, has anybody heard any word on the xbox 360 patch for Witch Hunt? It has been so long...

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, the story and the writing is whats keeping me interested right now. But like how Awakening illustrated, you can have fine writing but if the dialogue system sucks, it doesn't matter.

Tbh, i am not so fond of Awakening. The plotline, the characters, the quests, it all felt incomplete and more "business" like. I mean, in Origins, you could see and almost feel everywhere that this game was written by people who loved it as much as i do, and who put all their love of fantasy and rpgs into the game. Thats what made Origins so great. Awakening, to me, felt more like someone trying to recreate Origins, but completely lacking the passion for the game.

Brockololly wrote...
Thats the conundrum as I see it- if we never had Witch Hunt and perhaps they relegated the Warden to a codex entry or just in passing mentioned how he never found Morrigan and they went on to do whatever they had planned with Morrigan, it would suck, first of all. But IF they have no plans for the Warden going forward and are just going to make the Warden disposable again post WItch Hunt, what was the point?

I can see it now. The Warden's absence in future DA games will be handled the same way as was dogs absence throught the addtional content of Origins. They were just too less Wardens/Couslands/Amells/Maharials/ around, so the Warden went... you know, he/she took care of that. And as Wardens are almost sterile, that took a few years...

Or Gaider is getting his revenge. Throughout most of the recent year, he was mocking us if we really imagined Morrigan and Warden marrying, buying a house, get a bunch of children and live a happy ever after. So, the while mommy Morrigan is gone, daddy Warden stays behind in his little fairy mirror realm and takes care of the kids. And while we complain about the lack of our Wardens, he's dies of laughing telling us "i always warned you you should not desire this but you didn't listen, so now you have what you wanted".

ximena wrote...

I actually cringe every time Mike lashes
that phrase out in his speeches/interviews. *shudders now* I am unsure
why, but it just makes me cringe. XD (But perhaps it's my inner
marketing copywriter self saying "NOOOOO!" at the phrase.)

Because that phrase literally screams "BRO"!!!
Sounds like an advertizement for the latest movie directed by Michael Bay (many explosions, hollow characters, next to no story).

Modifié par MoSa09, 06 octobre 2010 - 02:06 .