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[ximena]

Don't really want to click that link. XD I'm avoiding the DA2 forums so I can save myself from a couple of facepalms.(Voted though. Though I'm not joining the discussion. XD )

Modifié par ximena, 17 octobre 2010 - 07:17 .

[Terra_Ex]

Gah, just noticed I have to respond to Brock & MoSa09's lengthy posts...

Brockololly wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...

Brock, you don't actually expect me to click that link do you.

Hahaha- well since Internet polls always solve everything, at least know that more people want the Warden to return with Morrigan than not return![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

Well, 'tis as it should be then. Sadly, I conceded and had to vote...

Brockololly wrote...

We should collect all of these developer Morrigan quotes somewhere...

Indeed, it can be an appendix to our rants compendium.

Anyway, I need to compose another lengthy response I guess.

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Don't really want to click that link. XD I'm avoiding the DA2 forums so I can save myself from a couple of facepalms.(Voted though. Though I'm not joining the discussion. XD )

*Edited to not sully the thread with negativity*

Modifié par Brockololly, 17 octobre 2010 - 07:42 .

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

My personal favorite over there:

Is there any specific reason you pester this beautiful thread with such "comments"?

[Herr Uhl]

Yeah, the DA2 forum is clearly to lowly to even be considered to be graced by your posts.

[Terra_Ex]

Brock's gone rogue again...

[ximena]

Hmmm. Now I'm curious as to what that post is about. Aha. But I'll let it go.



DA2 forums has some nice threads if you have the patience to swim around. But the other threads are getting tiring already. Some arguments just go back and forth, back and forth and back and forth until it explodes into hostility.



Yep. I think I'd save myself from the stress of all that and just hang out here and linger in my desk to draw stuff.

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Hmmm. Now I'm curious as to what that post is about. Aha. But I'll let it go.

DA2 forums has some nice threads if you have the patience to swim around. But the other threads are getting tiring already. Some arguments just go back and forth, back and forth and back and forth until it explodes into hostility.

Yep. I think I'd save myself from the stress of all that and just hang out here and linger in my desk to draw stuff.

Ha- no, I just posted some inane quotes regarding not bringing the Warden back and such from the DA2 forum. Nothing too interesting. Mostly the type of stuff Terra was ranting against on the last page.

The thing that just gets me is the notion that its IMPOSSIBLE to do anything with the DR out of some sense of fairness to those who did the US or turned down the DR. I'm not saying the US should be ignored, but its just that the US is the player choosing to END their PC's life and thus their story. While the DR is the player choosing to live and continue on, creating the OGB and presumably dealing with the consequences of such a choice. The DR is the beginning to a plot that was introduced at the last minute in Origins- there is vastly more potential there story wise than the US as far as the Warden goes. Doesn't mean they can't make something up for the US version of things or for those that turned down the DR, but in a "no canon" universe you can't just go around saying "the warden is dead- deal with it" when I chose to have my Warden live on. You've got to respect both sides othe equation there and thats my problem with much of the stuff on the DA2 forum whenever the subject of the DR/US is mentioned. Fairness has nothing to do with it- the DR has more story potential for the Warden moving forward.

Modifié par Brockololly, 17 octobre 2010 - 09:24 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I only read the Gaider and CO quotes really, or look at the new stuff.



Really though this is my feeling about the DA2 boards:

You will never find a more retched hive of fanbois and trolls. You much watch yourself.



On a side note to the game experts here is it possible to extract save files, and place them on a ME saves like website to import?

[Brockololly]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I only read the Gaider and CO quotes really, or look at the new stuff.

Thats what I try to do, just respond to dev posts and such- with varying success.

Giggles_Manically wrote...
On a side note to the game experts here is it possible to extract save files, and place them on a ME saves like website to import?

I think you could- I think that Dragon Age Nexus might have an area where people have uploaded Save Games to download.

[Giggles_Manically]

I would like a site that allowed for that, but then again with 14 complete games now, and 5 more to finish I doubt I would need that.

[Morrigans God son]

If I disagree with anything in the DA2 forums, I get blasted with "My warden is dead!" over & over again.



My warden isn't dead, not by a long shot.

[Maconbar]

This may have come up before but I haven't been able to locate it.



Are there any theories that will explain why Morrigan wasn't more insistent about pursuing the DR? My recollection is that she indicated that she could achieve her objectives without the DR, just that it would be more difficult.



I can't really figure out how she could easily access the soul of an untainted old god unless she has somehow learned about their locations and thinks that she can get to one. Even if that's the case, an old god would likely be less impressionable than an OGB.

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Maconbar.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that the OGB will be mostly inconsequential, at least in games that are going to explore Morrigan's plans. He might make a huge difference in the epilogues, but unless they canonize him, I don't see him having a huge role outside of epilogues.

[Maconbar]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

@ Maconbar.
I hate to say it, but it seems to me that the OGB will be mostly inconsequential, at least in games that are going to explore Morrigan's plans. He might make a huge difference in the epilogues, but unless they canonize him, I don't see him having a huge role outside of epilogues.

I hope you are wrong because I think that would make for crappy story-telling. In my mind it would be akin to Isildur destroying the one ring and finding out that Sauron returns in the same way and Frodo has to destroy Sauron's necklace instead.

I have to admit that I love counterfactual histories and this is one reason why I hope that some of our choices are handled better in DA:2 than in ME2. If our choices are all irrelevant I would not as soon not be given any.

[Brockololly]

Maconbar wrote...
Are there any theories that will explain why Morrigan wasn't more insistent about pursuing the DR? My recollection is that she indicated that she could achieve her objectives without the DR, just that it would be more difficult.

Well, going off of Witch Hunt it would seem that the Old God Baby maybe makes whatever Morrigan is planning easier to do , or will play some role as a herald for the change to come. Maybe Morrigan can still accomplish her goals without it, but it will be more difficult? Don't know exactly.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I hate to say it,  but it seems to me that the OGB will be mostly inconsequential, at least in games that are going to explore Morrigan's plans. He might make a  huge difference in the epilogues, but unless they canonize him, I don't  see him having a huge role outside of epilogues.

How they handle the DR and the OGB will really show to me how serious BioWare is with regards to having this "no canon" approach actually mean anything. The easy way is to definitely not have the OGB result in much of anything. Just take the ME2 route like with Wrex and if you didn't have the OGB, just have some other character fill that role.

But thats so incredibly weak if they did go that route. Given that the DR is the one big huge choice from Origins, I'd hope they can make it the one choice where you actually see a fair bit of divergence. To have it result in just some slightly different epilogue slides would really sour much of the fact that your choices are supposed to mean something in DA.

I'd hope that the presence of absence of the OGB possibly affects the final result of whatever it is Morrigan has planned- so if you didn't do the DR, maybe its more likely that Morrigan fails and Flemeth succeeds or something like that.

Maconbar wrote...
I have to admit that I love counterfactual histories and this is one reason why I hope that some of our choices are handled better in DA:2 than in ME2.  If our choices are all irrelevant I would not as soon not be given any.

Well said- thats my issue with the DR choice- its sprung on you at the end of the game so you have no chance to have the Warden see through to its consequences, except if they bring the Warden back in some future game. Whereas the US gets their epic ending and can immediately see the consequences of their action. So if they just write off the DR Wardens and OGB as ultimately epilogue slides or codex entries or some two-bit cameo, I'd completely agree with you- why give us that choice in the first place if nothing of significance is ever going to come of it in some meaningful fashion?

Modifié par Brockololly, 18 octobre 2010 - 01:18 .

[Esbatty]

Aww, but I like visiting the DA2 boards... late at night, to poke fun at the "srs bsnss" people. That and I await all new information.

[Brockololly]

Halloween Morrigan to the rescue!

From Vaidilute

MoSa09 wrote...
If i remember correctly, legend says Flemeth hunts her daughters and drink their blood. But then, legend tells Flemeth has many daughters, ans they all can kill with fear. Morrigan has no sister we know of, but i agree our knowledge as well as hers is limited. If she can kill with fear though, i doubt that.

Who knows what Morrigan is really capable of? I think it would be interesting if Morrigan did indeed have more sisters out there, maybe one that has escaped from Flemeth. Could be an interesting avenue to explore.

MoSa09 wrote...
 Besides, people would have something of value to claim the game is good or not. But maybe thats exactly the problem...

People will no doubt complain or rage or praise any footage that gets released. But some official footage would be nice at this point given that its only about 4.5 months to ship and no doubt they need to be done a good deal before that. So if the demo at the conventions is an old build, it would be nice to see how it looks better now, if it does indeed look better.

MoSa09 wrote...
You might hate this, but that is what i expect. As the story of DA 2 is told in retrosperspective by Hawke's friends, i expect the game to zoom out of the game after each chapter, going back to the Narrator and Cassandra, summarizing the events and moving on the next chapter. While we may not get a  mission complete screen, DA 2 will have something alike.

If its handled as clumsily as ME2, I don't care for that, but if its like the chapters ending in BG2- thats fine.

MoSa09 wrote...
Hate to play the devils advocate here, but given their recent track record with importing decisions, i would not bet these certain flags mean something important. For all we know and experienced, they could only result in Morrigan giving a slightly different line of dialogue in DA 3, nothing more. I would love it to be different, but for now, nothing indicates there plot flags can be taken as proof that the Warden will be back, sadly.

Thats true, sadly. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst and all that. BUt surely, I think that the writers/developers know via the telemetry and such that its not an insignificant portion of people who chose Morrigan as a romance and maybe followed her through the Eluvian. And like we've said, WH leaves the door open for all Wardens to return.

MoSa09 wrote...
I think he does not only decide the chantry's fate, but he also decides with Flemeth. She seems to be a major player, probably the major player. And i absolutely think she is the puppet master of the game, and in the end, Hawke has to decide whether to join her or face and confront her. Just another leap of faih, not unlike the one Morrigan requires.

Could be- it will be interesting to see how much of Flemeth's plans we're able to uncover in DA2 or if we'll only see her plans in motion but be left in the dark as to her motivations. And then of course how her plans and Hawke's involvemnet in them may relate to Morrigan and the Warden returning. All I know is that my first playthrough, I'll probably not be roleplaying so much as just trying to not to do anything to screw over Morrigan.

MoSa09 wrote...
You know, when you have a lot of unpleasant things to say/show, things people will not like, release it piece by piece. After people have started to accept and adapt to the first one, release the second one and so forth. In the end, 99 % percent of all people fail to grasp the magnitude, as they only remember the latest announcement, comparing it to the former previous standard, forgetting all the adaptions they've already made. Just sayin....

Thats very, very, very true. Hmmmm...<_<

MoSa09 wrote...
Since we are about to meet former companions other than just Alistair, it should be their job to mention the great hero and friend, who has gone missing. Morrigan is and will be my nr. one, but running into Leliana telling the story of her beloved city elf... I do wonder if you could run into your Warden, as there are possibilities the Warden travels with Zevran or Leliana and neither becomes ruler of Ferelden nor follows Morrigan into the mirror?
Or we meet them after the Warden has gone missing anyway, and neither of your old friends will shed some light, or mention anything at all, as what happened to your old self?

If anything, I suppose we'll maybe get hints as to what that Awakening epilogue with the Wardens all vanishing maybe meant. Obviously it makes sense for the Eluvian Wardens, but for everyone else, maybe its setting up their return for DA3?


Random Morrigan question: Morrigan's favorite board game?

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:14 .

[ximena]

Hahaha. I remembered this entry to my contest because of that board game question. XD This gave me a good laugh.







by sketchgoat



Morrigan with bling-bling and doin' that pose in the 2nd panel. Ahahaha.

[TheBlackBaron]

I'm laughing harder at Edric in sunglasses and a wizard hat than I should be at 12:51 AM.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:52 .

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Hahaha. I remembered this entry to my contest because of that board game question. XD This gave me a good laugh.
*snip*

Morrigan with bling-bling and doin' that pose in the 2nd panel. Ahahaha.

GANGSTA' MORRIGAN! Add it to the List, Ximena!

Thats awesome- I love the gold chains and bling on Morrigan and Edric's Wizard hat :lol:

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 octobre 2010 - 05:54 .

[Esbatty]

OMG... the Milk Carton is AWESOME!



Nice work Xi.

[revan11exile]

HAHA what would Morrigan say Tis Gangsta

[ximena]

@Brock

Yeah. It's in the list now.

And oooh.Contest entries are beginning to be submitted.

More fanart. This time Orbs of Arastani inspired! (And another entry to my contest.)



by Fruitsexual

Modifié par ximena, 19 octobre 2010 - 06:18 .