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[ximena]

Hmmm. If I remember correctly in one of those interviews, Laidlaw said they got the look they wanted to pull with Morrigan. Something about "Dark and sexy?" Hahaha. And I have faith Gaider cares enough not to murder the original Morrigan look. And that as the lead writer, his voice has enough weight.

Edit: New art~ Morrigan defends her baby~



by lordagoran

Modifié par ximena, 27 octobre 2010 - 03:53 .

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Hmmm. If I remember correctly in one of those interviews, Laidlaw said they got the look they wanted to pull with Morrigan. Something about "Dark and sexy?" Hahaha. And I have faith Gaider cares enough not to murder the original Morrigan look. And that as the lead writer, his voice has enough weight.

Yeah...I think it may have been in the PC gamer interview with Art director Matt Goldman... *goes scouring google*

Here we go:

Matt Goldman agrees: “It was pretty hard to tell elves and humans apart, so we’ve done a lot of work to make them different from one another.  Our visual watchwords for DA2 are ‘grim, bloody and sexy.’ Morrigan  somehow pulled it off in Origins, but because of the way the rigs and  the animations were being shared, a lot of the females didn’t exactly  hit the right mark.”

That bugs me though, because it makes sense that Morrigan, a Witch of the Wilds is grim, bloody and sexy but every character shouldn't fit that mold.

I wouldn't mind if they changed up Morrigan's outfit or let her hair down or something, just don't mess with her face, like they did to Isabela, Flemeth, the darkspawn and so on.

But this is probably a concern for DA3, not even DA2- so we've got years to think about this:pinched:

Modifié par Brockololly, 27 octobre 2010 - 05:18 .

[Bruddajakka]

Well seeing as how some time is more then likely going to pass. Hell a lot of time could have past. She may be significantly older when we see her it's very likely that her look may have changed. Unless she, and the Warden don't age in mirror world.

[Lord_Anthonior]

ximena wrote...

Hmmm. If I remember correctly in one of those interviews, Laidlaw said they got the look they wanted to pull with Morrigan. Something about "Dark and sexy?" Hahaha. And I have faith Gaider cares enough not to murder the original Morrigan look. And that as the lead writer, his voice has enough weight.

Edit: New art~ Morrigan defends her baby~



by lordagoran

"Don't mess with my love and with my son, because even if I'm not there you'll still pay for it!!!"

I hope they don't kill Morrigan's looks, I doubt it but who knows until dragon age 3 and who knows when will that be. I do believe that whatever design was made for Morrigan I think they nailed it!! appearence, voice, character, everything.

I imagine already if there will be a trailer about them coming out from another Eluvian in another place, first their feet and then zooms out to show them completely or many other ways for a trailer.

[ximena]

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD







by batata-tasha

[Esbatty]

ximena wrote...

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD



by batata-tasha

*drools*

Man I just got up from a nightmare. Oddly enough I haven't touched TFU2 or Fable 3 had a busy day of just catching up on sleep then running around town then popped in DAO. For some reason I was able to make a quick Fade run this time it took less than an hour to pull off. But yes the subtle bits of The Fade and doing the Redcliffe/Connor deal really influenced that dream and now I have a great idea for the story I"m writing. Well its actually very horrible but great now that I have a few chapters of ideas that need to written out now.

As for the timeline issue, I figure its roughly 2 to 2 1/2 after the fall of the Archie. Too much is going on for it to simply be an everyday occurrence that fantastical sh*t is hitting the fan. I mean its Ferelden not the bloody DC and Marvel Universes.

Morrigan's bloody, sexy, grimness spreading to DA2 sounds like when they transitioned comics during the 70s and 80s from the old Biff/Bam/Pow days to The Dark Knight Returns/Watchmen/Anti-Heroes. And with hearing how apparently Gaider loves him some Vertigo Comics and him being lead writer, I cannot doubt that is exactly what was went for. All I know is I really hope Dragon Age 2 is more DNR/Watchmen then The Punisher/Wolverine.

Now I need to rinse off this terror sweat and jot down some good ol' fashioned written notes to take to work later this week. muahahahahaha:devil:

[Tigress M]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...
I hope they don't kill Morrigan's looks, I doubt it but who knows until dragon age 3 and who knows when will that be. I do believe that whatever design was made for Morrigan I think they nailed it!! appearence, voice, character, everything.

*de-lurks*

Agreed! I'm not a huge Morrigan fan, but I do not know who else but Claudia Black could have pulled off her VO so eloquently.  And maybe it's just because Morrigan reminds me, visually, of CB, but I also think her look is perfect.  

[Morrigans God son]

ximena wrote...

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD



by batata-tasha

[lilmeezer]

ximena wrote...

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD



by batata-tasha

Makes me think of the musical "Wicked". Can you see Morrigan as Elphaba?

Modifié par lilmeezer, 27 octobre 2010 - 04:23 .

[Brockololly]

ximena wrote...

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD



by batata-tasha

That is made of pure, unadulterated, 100% WIN.

Tigress M wrote...
*de-lurks*

Agreed!
I'm not a huge Morrigan fan, but I do not know who else but Claudia
Black could have pulled off her VO so eloquently.  And maybe it's just
because Morrigan reminds me, visually, of CB, but I also think her look
is perfect. 

Right, and for me it would be the same with Alistair or any of the other companions- you spend dozens and dozens of hours hearing Claudia Black's voice coming out of Morrigan's face; or Steve Valentine's voice coming out of Alistair's face. To just wonk up existing character's faces for giggles just hurts my abilty to stay invested in the franchise- seriously.

I'm mostly worried though as it seems DA2's new face morph system has a penchant for giving wierd unnatural looking faces with big jaws and chins. Seeing how most of the characters look in DA2, I really hope they don't have Morrigan show up, lest her face gets all bloated looking and out of proportion like Carver, Isabela, Varric, Cassandra or Lady Hawke.

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

ximena wrote...

Aaaand. Just in time for halloween~ XD



by batata-tasha

That is made of pure, unadulterated, 100% WIN.

Tigress M wrote...
*de-lurks*

Agreed!
I'm not a huge Morrigan fan, but I do not know who else but Claudia
Black could have pulled off her VO so eloquently.  And maybe it's just
because Morrigan reminds me, visually, of CB, but I also think her look
is perfect. 

Right, and for me it would be the same with Alistair or any of the other companions- you spend dozens and dozens of hours hearing Claudia Black's voice coming out of Morrigan's face; or Steve Valentine's voice coming out of Alistair's face. To just wonk up existing character's faces for giggles just hurts my abilty to stay invested in the franchise- seriously.

I'm mostly worried though as it seems DA2's new face morph system has a penchant for giving wierd unnatural looking faces with big jaws and chins. Seeing how most of the characters look in DA2, I really hope they don't have Morrigan show up, lest her face gets all bloated looking and out of proportion like Carver, Isabela, Varric, Cassandra or Lady Hawke.

QFT, seriously. How they handle returning characters is a BIG part of my continued interest in this series. I wasn't really all that angry about them basically redesigning isabela, given she was somewhat of a minor character, but they can't do that with someone like morrigan or alistair- we're too used to their voices by now and it would just seem like an insult to the characters. Although, they could make morrigan into a hot-rod samurai meets mad max meets bayonetta chick, and I would just love to see the dev's explanation for justifying that 

[Giggles_Manically]

Bioware can say whatever they want.

Its all about sales.



A hot chick in scanty clothes sells to the bros far better than Origins Isabella would.

[blademaster7]

But she's not even that good looking to begin with. How is she supposed to sell? :/



I'm not impressed from what I've seen so far(Casandra, Isabela, Lady Hawke).

[Esbatty]

I find Isabella's new looks to be a massive improvement over Pearl Isabella. To me she is very attractive so I don't get people's "she's not even that good looking", everyone has different tastes so I say bah to the idea that she lacks any appeal.



But they best not mess with Morrigan or Alistair's looks. They are human and should look so. If Zev or Sten pop back up I expect them to look like the updated Elf and Qunari versions but still retain a semblance of their DAO appearances. Not spot on but updated. Nevertheless I have a bit of faith Sneaky-Witch-Thief and the Royal Bastard will retain many of their features. Hell my custom shepards from ME transitioned nearly seamlessly from ME1 to ME2, they just lacked the facial scarring I set in the first one otherwise... same hair, same brows, etc etc. I believe it can be done.

[Bruddajakka]

New Isabela looks a lot better then the old one. Old Isabela actually looked pretty old, and her skin was pretty leathery looking. So I personally prefer the new version. Could do without the chin stud though.



I think when/if they bring Morrigan back they'll do what they can to maintain her look.

[Morrigans God son]

Bruddajakka wrote...

New Isabela looks a lot better then the old one. Old Isabela actually looked pretty old, and her skin was pretty leathery looking. So I personally prefer the new version. Could do without the chin stud though.

I think when/if they bring Morrigan back they'll do what they can to maintain her look.

If they bring her back with horns and a fat chin. I swear, they better prey to their maker.

[Brockololly]

I've commented enough other places about Isabela's new face but its got nothing to do with how hot or ugly she is, its that her facial features are not humanly possible, proportions wise- its like she is a bad caricature.

And you can see that sort of Uncanny Valley look in all of the characters so far- from Carver's Jay Leno chin, to Cassandra's jaw and buggy eyes, to Bethany's dead zombie eyes, to Varric acromegaly head, to Isabela's scrunched up face. Never mind the fact thateveryone seems to be sporting a massive underbite when speaking too.

I'm actually quite glad that Morrigan won't show up in DA2, as I don't know that the new face morph system can even make people not look like muppets wearing odd rubber/plastic masks.

But lets try to keep it on Morrigan



By VagabondBastard

Modifié par Brockololly, 27 octobre 2010 - 11:41 .

[soundchaser721]

Brockololly wrote...

I've commented enough other places about Isabela's new face but its got nothing to do with how hot or ugly she is, its that her facial features are not humanly possible, proportions wise- its like she is a bad caricature.

And you can see that sort of Uncanny Valley look in all of the characters so far- from Carver's Jay Leno chin, to Cassandra's jaw and buggy eyes, to Bethany's dead zombie eyes, to Varric acromegaly head, to Isabela's scrunched up face. Never mind th efact thateveryone seems to be sporting a massive underbite when speaking too.
I'm actually quite glad that Morrigan won't show up in DA2, as I don't know that the new face morph system can even make people look non-plastic doll like.

But lets try to keep it on Morrigan

At this point I'm hoping they get these mis-proportioned faces worked out by launch-they've got a decent amount of time, but its going to come up fast. That being said, I don't think the character models will look vastly different. The rise to power trailer is probably a decent indication of how the game is going to look.

[Brockololly]

soundchaser721 wrote...
At this point I'm hoping they get these mis-proportioned faces worked out by launch-they've got a decent amount of time, but its going to come up fast. That being said, I don't think the character models will look vastly different. The rise to power trailer is probably a decent indication of how the game is going to look.

So long as they get things sorted out by the time DA3 or whenever Morrigan AND the Warden returns, I'll be a happy camper:)

[Lord_Anthonior]

Brockololly wrote...

soundchaser721 wrote...
At this point I'm hoping they get these mis-proportioned faces worked out by launch-they've got a decent amount of time, but its going to come up fast. That being said, I don't think the character models will look vastly different. The rise to power trailer is probably a decent indication of how the game is going to look.

So long as they get things sorted out by the time DA3 or whenever Morrigan AND the Warden returns, I'll be a happy camper:)

Probably that's why I'm not too much troubled about dragon age 2, since the Warden and Morrigan are far away from the story unless in case of some cameos, but for the characters and romances I'm pretty much in an acceptance mentality of whatever they'll do with the game could be good, just don't mess up with Morrigan and I'm fine with the games.

As for Isabella, well... there is still much to see about her and that will be until playing the game, the voice and the development of her character might even help of not considering her looks if that would be an issue for some players, but so far I have no complains about her.

Modifié par Lord_Anthonior, 28 octobre 2010 - 05:45 .

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

I think Isabela would look okay if it wasn't for her jaw being so massive from either poor design or her other facial features being so small. Although I'm more or so worried about DA:3 being 10-20 years from WH, and Morrigan being in her late thirties to mid forties area. Knowing BioWare that is justification for a "retcon" on her looks. I hope they keep her facial structure as close to Origins as possible. I would like to see her hair down personally (ximena draws her very very very well with her hair down) or maybe another outfit for whenever she returns.



Although I do kind of like the new art direction scenery and building wise. I am hating the look of the characters and darkspawn. Like none of the characters have looked very good except maybe the default male Hawke.



A little bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but with the holidays coming up and fall semester coming to a close I plan on playing through the game one or two more times as my final canons one male and one female. My male is going to romance Morrigan, so are the Witch Hunt bugs fixed? And do I need to download a patch for the fixes if they are fixed?

[Brockololly]

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
 Although I'm more or so worried about DA:3 being 10-20 years from WH, and Morrigan being in her late thirties to mid forties area. Knowing BioWare that is justification for a "retcon" on her looks. I hope they keep her facial structure as close to Origins as possible. I would like to see her hair down personally (ximena draws her very very very well with her hair down) or maybe another outfit for whenever she returns.

Yeah, I don't think they'd jump way far ahead necessarily after DA2, as it seems at least that DA2 sort of will end on a bit of a cliffhanger at least in terms of the world changing with the Chantry crumbling and world on the brink of war. Unless they gloss over that stuff, I'd think DA2 sets the stage for Morrigan to return (with the Warden of course!) and to sort of knock down the sandcastle and let everything hit the fan in DA3. Maybe just have DA3 be a couple years after DA2 or maybe even depending on who the PC is, you could have it start already during the events of DA2, just from the perspective of the Warden or whoever.

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
Although I do kind of like the new art direction scenery and building wise. I am hating the look of the characters and darkspawn. Like none of the characters have looked very good except maybe the default male Hawke.

Yeah, the landscapes do seem a bit more epic, and the lighting looks to be improved. But the characters and just how angular and jagged everything is really turns me off to the art style. It just seems too distant to what they established in Origins. As for how Morrigan would look in it, well, I guess we'll maybe have an idea if we see any other companions from Origins show up in DA2- will they get a total retcon like Isabela or stay the same?

Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
A little bit of a sidetrack from the current discussion, but with the holidays coming up and fall semester coming to a close I plan on playing through the game one or two more times as my final canons one male and one female. My male is going to romance Morrigan, so are the Witch Hunt bugs fixed? And do I need to download a patch for the fixes if they are fixed?

I know for PC Witch Hunt has been fixed for a while- I think the PS3 and 360 were patched not to long ago too. So you should be good. Not sure how it works on consoles, but on the PC you basically download Witch Hunt 1.1 and you should be ok, even if you had an existing Witch Hunt save, it will add in the post game save for importing into DA2 and all that.

Modifié par Brockololly, 29 octobre 2010 - 12:13 .

[Gennojo Ryuga]

For the consoles it is just another patch to download, ver 1.06 I believe is the patch name. *Poofs*

[Lord_Anthonior]

As for PS3, witch hunt is fixed with the patch, at the end there's the saving the file and it does recognize the ritual, romance and the ring so it's fine for a PS3 player.



I would imagine that DA3 could be after DA2 in time, if Morrigan and the Warden's son comes back it will have to be several years from the events of DA2 since even at the end of witch hunt he is still a little baby or toddler, if hopefully they'll return so that the kid face his destiny it would have to be at the very least in his teens or older. Though the writers can always have something up their sleeve or already have several things planned.



And I agree, Ximena does makes Morrigan look really-trully-absolutely-completely and very well with her hair down too.



So far I like how lowtown and other places in the trailer look, it really shows that you are no longer in Ferelden but still in Thedas, apart from Isabella wich I don't mind about her looks, I think the rest still look like in origins, Cassandra as an example.



Still I think that as long as the sense,spirit or "vibe" of what is Dragon age is still there, I wouldn't really mind some changes in some looks with the only exception of Morrigan, as long as in the future they don't mess with her looks at least not too much since time have passed I'm ok. I say this as in the case of the "Godfather" and the "Godfather 2" by EA, they really messed up with everything but I'm sure in this case they would keep many things unchanged.

[Axekix]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

I would imagine that DA3 could be after DA2 in time, if Morrigan and the Warden's son comes back it will have to be several years from the events of DA2 since even at the end of witch hunt he is still a little baby or toddler, if hopefully they'll return so that the kid face his destiny it would have to be at the very least in his teens or older. Though the writers can always have something up their sleeve or already have several things planned.

I've been away for a while but has Morrigan's story been confirmed as continuing in DA3?  Cause... that would be awesome!