Barbarossa2010 wrote...
This sounds like a lead-in of the thousands that have hammered on blademaster and myself because we dare to possess a heretical view from community orthodoxy
If you don't actually want to get into those fights you shouldn't keep proclaiming that you're a heretic. I read of your position three times this week -- "of your position" since you weren't actually saying what the position is until now. Though I can understand not wanting to keep repeating the substance. Maybe you should put it in your sig?
And I thank you for returning to this anyway.
Having said that; first of all, there is no intent to mislead.
(snip)
Secondly: Technically you are correct, there are other choices, but as you have stated they are “not necessarily any better” unless of course one thinks that letting a woman you are supposedly romancing, sleep with another man is a valid choice; that was just not an option for my Warden. If there were choices other than these, then my failure to mention them was merely an oversight probably due to them being unremarkable, rather than any intent to mislead.
My point was that you know better. Saying there are two choices isn't even effective as
rhetoric, since it gives anyone who doesn't already agree license to disregard your entire point.
Another choice is to refuse the DR but get someone else to do the US, of course. So in your language it's chump time (in two flavors), sacrifice your warden, or sacrifice Alistair (other option locked out by the time you get to the DR).
As for the substance:
Sure, Morrigan doesn't do a very good job of convincing you to do the DR. She's no good at
convincing
anyone to do
anything. Having spent her whole life not being concerned about what other people think, feel, or do, it's a little late for her to start playing this game now.
Saying that your Warden thought the DR was a bad idea isn't an objection. It might very well
be a bad, even disastrous idea. My first Warden thought so; a mage who saw this as exactly the sort of arrogance that got us into the Blight mess, he refused, and in the end had to choose between dying or putting Anora on the throne.
Saying that Morrigan is a flawed, even somewhat irrational person is also no objection. It's simply her character.
Saying that Morrigan won't give you your character the information he wants is also not a objection. Her character is under no obligation to do that.
So what you've got is that your Warden wasn't allowed to ask Morrigan questions that she would refuse to answer, to attempt Persuade or Intimidate checks that would fail, or to attack and kill her. I can agree with all of these as a matter of RP, though I imagine you'd have some explaining to do in the latter case, which would make it slightly costly in terms of VA work. I don't find your character's reasoning for wanting to kill her rational at all since she can't put her plan into effect without the cooperation of a Grey Warden, but I have no objection to people playing sociopaths as long as implementing those choices is nearly free.
Again, thanks for the clarification.