Master Shiori wrote...
I have no problem with tragedy as long as the player has some say in it and it isn't simply forced upon you for the sake of emotional payoff.
I agree, but to play devil's advocate, isn't the point behind most tragedy that its out of the character's hands and out of one's control? You know, the whole star crossed lovers shtick? It wouldn't be my favorite route to take things with Morrigan and the Warden, especially as it seems destined to go that way, but if given some thought a well done tragic ending could be good. Still, I think it would more than likely blow up in BioWare's face.
Master Shiori wrote...
That's why I find the DR so frustrating. It takes all sense of control from me and makes the game feel like a book rather than a movie I'm starring in.
Exactly- in a choice driven RPG, its frustrating when not only is choice clearly taken away from the PC but that the PC is also being handcuffed in terms of their ability to react accordingly.
Master Shiori wrote...
After all, she's not VIconia who's being chased around by minions of an evil goddess hell bent on killing her.
Flemeth? And who knows about Flemeth's army of mages she seems to have in DA2?
Master Shiori wrote...
A "happy" ending with Morrigan should be possible, but in order to get it you'd need to make hard choices and bear some sacrifices. A Virmire type scenario from ME1 would be great, as would something similar to Landsmeet.
Simply having a character who values survival so highly die for the sake of drawing out the player's emotions is extremely cheap.
I totally agree. At this stage I'm not expecting much of an ending at all between the Warden and Morrigan, but should we get one, I wouldn't expect a sunshine happy one, but at least have a Witch Hunt style walk off in to the sunset ending or a Throne of Bhaal style one- exceot maybe turn the tables and have it such that Morrigan has the chance to become some divine like superpower or stay mortal, and that choice she makes is dependent on things you've done with her in the past maybe.
As I've said, the sad or tragic endings with Morrigan seem so painfully obvious and they all write themselves. A fairly happy ending after having had to make some hard decisions and go through hell and back would make it so much more rewarding I'd think than just getting Plot Hammered.
KnightofPhoenix wrote...]
I would say that real tragedy is when you really can't do a thing about it, but maybe I am forgetting that it's a game and focusing solely on the story.
No, thats about right, I think. But unless they had the tragic scene played out really well and thoughtfully, I think it could come across as cheap and a lazy ploy to sap some emotion out of the player that just backfires.
Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
I got this crackpot theory that they will make a DA:2 DLC involving the Warden. DA:2 ends eight years after the Blight maybe they could put up a DLC that takes place then. Because the epilogues imply "years later" the Warden "vanishes". Possibly explain what/why they vanished and where they went. We know Morrigan went into the mirror with or without our Wardens, but hopefully she plans to come out of mirrorland and back into reality. Maybe that is at the end of DA:2? And part of why the Wardens vanish is to help her prepare against Flemeth? Or she tells the Warden information about Flemeth/rumored new Blight and wants us to report to Weiseppet(sp?). Probably just wishful thinking but whatever.
Could be- I do wonder how DA2 will end and how they approach DLC. Will they abandon Hawke for some new guy like they did in Awakening by having the Orlesian Warden? But as you said, I really hope by the end of DA2 its clear or at least more clear how Morrigan fits into all this and hopefully sets up her return with the Warden.
And thats a good point on the new Blight rumored in the Anderfels- although it doesn't seem like BioWare has much of a problem tossing out those epilogues- just look at Morrigan and Orlais.
ximena wrote...
Dear everyone,
because someone has been craving Morrigan sideboob and fortunately someone from the world answered...
*Naked Morri snip*
You are awesome XimenaB) Nice find!
Golden-Rose wrote...
I wonder how long Morrigan's hair is undone? I'd suspect somewhere around shoulder length, maybe slightly longer. Longer than Leliana's, I think.
I'd make a totally unscientific guess that its maybe shoulder length or a little longer? Probably longer than Leliana's I'd say.
Golden-Rose wrote...
Okay, so since I've got my fingers crossed for Morrigan's god baby being a total hottie when he grows up (hopefully in DA3) ala Aimo's "rings" gender-bender picture, I actually came up with a story-related reason why he could be good looking. This is a bit cheesy, so bear with me, but Morrigan's baby carries the essence of the Archdemon, right? That Archdemon is said to be Urthemiel, who was celebrated in Tevinter as a god of beauty. Obviously the dragon itself is not physically beautiful, but perhaps this could be an excuse for Bioware to make god-baby a real looker? /wishful thinking
No, you're right about the whole God of Beauty thing. I wonder if thats somehow tied into Morrigan and Flemeth- what with Flemeth stealing her daughter's bodies to regain her lost beauty. And I still wonder about the Urthemiel Plateau over by Orlais....
As for the OGB showing up in the future- I think it would depend on how old it is when it shows up and in turn when Morrigan shows back up and how time works in the Eluvian Land? Never mind that the whole Old God baby isn't canon so I wonder how big a role it will play in the future- it would be a shame if it doesn't get a big role though for those that made that choice. I think it would be very cool if they somehow were able to make the OGB's appearance take into account either Alistair, Loghain or how the Warden looked- that would be nifty.
Golden-Rose wrote...
The next "barrier" that Bioware has to cross is determining whether Morrigan's son is human, elven or dwarven. I have a sneaking suspicion that he will end up human regardless of who did the D(i)R(ty) with Morrigan, which would make a certain sense I suppose, since Morri is human. And it would also cut down on the time and effort required to make unique dialogue for the GB depending on his species/race/whatever.
Well, unless its some human/dragon baby hybrid or something I 'd guess it will look human. You figure even if you were human or elf the resullting child would look human, even in the case it was elf-blooded. But if a dwarf did the DR, then yeah, it should be half dwarf and thus maybe a but shorter than a normal human but bigger than a dwarf. But I doubt BioWare would make a model for that unless they were doing so already.
Or BIoWare could hand wave it by justifying the OGB having one look based on magic or the DR itself.
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