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[Lord_Anthonior]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Don't mess with Morrigan. Ever.


She'll beat the crap out of you.

Better to be on her good side than her bad.

I have thought that all this time, if she can eliminate demons,darkspawn, drakes, dragons, broodmothers, and dealt quite a damage to an archdemon, imagine what she can do against puny humans and templars. And she...loves...me. 

Modifié par Lord_Anthonior, 01 décembre 2010 - 06:30 .

[Ulicus]

I would also expect Morrigan's son to crop up against irrespective of whether or not you did the ritual. It just makes more sense for the son to exist in every version of the timeline, even if he doesn't have the soul of an Old God.

Especially since the godsoul was simply "the means to an end". He may wind up being a very important figure even without it.

Modifié par Ulicus, 01 décembre 2010 - 10:46 .

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

Flemeth? And who knows about Flemeth's army of mages she seems to have in DA2?

I think Flemeth and her mage army have bigger things to deal with than chase after 1 lone woman, even if she's Flemeth's runaway daughter.

[naledgeborn]

Ulicus wrote...

I would also expect Morrigan's son to crop up against irrespective of whether or not you did the ritual. It just makes more sense for the son to exist in every version of the timeline, even if he doesn't have the soul of an Old God.

Especially since the godsoul was simply "the means to an end". He may wind up being a very important figure even without it.

Here are the possibilities

Male Warden, Romance, DR
Male Warden, No Romance, DR
Male Warden, Romance, No DR
Male Warden, No Romance, No DR

Female Warden, DR
Female Warden, No DR

The numbers favor Morrigan having a child 2/3 of the time DR or no. And then who's to say, other than the writers, if she didn't get knocked up by someone else if she was denied.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 01 décembre 2010 - 12:41 .

[IndigoWolfe]

As a question that's been bugging me for quite a while, I'd like to ask how many of your brought Morrigan along for the battle with the Archdemon?

[Master Shiori]

I always bring her along, since she's my main mage. Deals damage, heals and dispels as needed.

[Giggles_Manically]

naledgeborn wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

I would also expect Morrigan's son to crop up against irrespective of whether or not you did the ritual. It just makes more sense for the son to exist in every version of the timeline, even if he doesn't have the soul of an Old God.

Especially since the godsoul was simply "the means to an end". He may wind up being a very important figure even without it.

Here are the possibilities

Male Warden, Romance, DR
Male Warden, No Romance, DR
Male Warden, Romance, No DR
Male Warden, No Romance, No DR

Female Warden, DR
Female Warden, No DR

The numbers favor Morrigan having a child 2/3 of the time DR or no. And then who's to say, other than the writers, if she didn't get knocked up by someone else if she was denied.

David Gaider did.

He said that if the DR was turned down it never happened.
While he said it could make an interesting story, they did not want to remove player agency from people.

Also if someone dies taking down the Archdemon then no DR took place.

edit- Also your probability is off.
While there are many endings that can support the DR, you dont factor in how people feel about it or other factors.
People can just as easily turn it down as chose it.

Since its a either/or choice the odds of it are 50/50.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 01 décembre 2010 - 03:41 .

[naledgeborn]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Ulicus wrote...

I would also expect Morrigan's son to crop up against irrespective of whether or not you did the ritual. It just makes more sense for the son to exist in every version of the timeline, even if he doesn't have the soul of an Old God.

Especially since the godsoul was simply "the means to an end". He may wind up being a very important figure even without it.

Here are the possibilities

Male Warden, Romance, DR
Male Warden, No Romance, DR
Male Warden, Romance, No DR
Male Warden, No Romance, No DR

Female Warden, DR
Female Warden, No DR

The numbers favor Morrigan having a child 2/3 of the time DR or no. And then who's to say, other than the writers, if she didn't get knocked up by someone else if she was denied.

David Gaider did.

He said that if the DR was turned down it never happened.
While he said it could make an interesting story, they did not want to remove player agency from people.

Also if someone dies taking down the Archdemon then no DR took place.

edit- Also your probability is off.
While there are many endings that can support the DR, you dont factor in how people feel about it or other factors.
People can just as easily turn it down as chose it.

Since its a either/or choice the odds of it are 50/50.

I wasn't talking about the DR itself but the chances of Morrigan being pregnant OGB or regular (as possible anyway) baby. Don't forget that she gets pregnant just by having sex with the Warden in camp. Should read things more closely.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 01 décembre 2010 - 04:08 .

[Morrigans God son]

Master Shiori wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Flemeth? And who knows about Flemeth's army of mages she seems to have in DA2?

I think Flemeth and her mage army have bigger things to deal with than chase after 1 lone woman, even if she's Flemeth's runaway daughter.

If Morrigan has the godbaby. Flemeth has a huge reason to send a mage army to find her runaway daughter.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

I think Flemeth and her mage army have bigger things to deal with than chase after 1 lone woman, even if she's Flemeth's runaway daughter.

Maybe- but it begs the question as to what exactly Flemeth wants with the Old God Baby and the Dark Ritual, seeing as she is the one that taught it to Morrigan in the first place. Unless Morrigan and Flemeth are still working together, I'd imagine Flemeth may have reason to hunt down Morrigan eventually.

Master Shiori wrote...

I always bring her along, since she's my main mage. Deals damage, heals and dispels as needed.

Yup- she's just damn useful, especially if your PC isn't a mage.

Giggles_Manically wrote...
He said that if the DR was turned down it never happened.
While he said it could make an interesting story, they did not want to remove player agency from people.

Yeah, he said that, but still, you could have Morrigan come back with just having a regular child by someone else, totally unrelated to the DR. That way you could fit the "child of Morrigan" role into the game and flesh it out as being a kid with some mysterious, never named father if you went US, or with the Warden as the father of the regular kid, or add some divinity to it by having it the Old God Baby with some extra dialogue.

As for player agency and all that, in the past couple weeks, they have mentioned how they're not above handwaving bringing certain killable characters back from the dead if they want to in the future, based in part on choices and stuff.So who knows...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
While there are many endings that can support the DR, you dont factor in how people feel about it or other factors.
People can just as easily turn it down as chose it.

Since its a either/or choice the odds of it are 50/50.

But in any event, BioWare likely has the telemetry on the DR choice, so they know relatively how many people took it. And you've got to think that if a good number did the DR versus the US, then they may allocate more resources to that in the future, should it become a plot point.

[KnightofPhoenix]

One of my favorite Morrigan moments

[Master Shiori]

Nice one KoP.



I particulary like her expression in that screenshot.

[Jarlof Seoul]

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one KoP.

I particulary like her expression in that screenshot.

me too

[Lord_Anthonior]

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one KoP.

I particulary like her expression in that screenshot.

Me too.I also have her "endurance" remark set for whenever I turn the laptop off, wich can be days for that, and for  when I startup the laptop the "cold in her tent".

[Shade of Wolf]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

As a question that's been bugging me for quite a while, I'd like to ask how many of your brought Morrigan along for the battle with the Archdemon?

Every time, she is my healer, but that's just the cover story.

[Shade of Wolf]

Brockololly wrote...


As for player agency and all that, in the past couple weeks, they have mentioned how they're not above handwaving bringing certain killable characters back from the dead if they want to in the future, based in part on choices and stuff.So who knows...

Really? Have you got citations? Sounds interesting. I know I shouldn't like it, but I regret killing/betraying some people.

[Lord_Anthonior]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

As a question that's been bugging me for quite a while, I'd like to ask how many of your brought Morrigan along for the battle with the Archdemon?

I did, well, I  still do it everytime, she is my second character next to my portrait so I switch from Warden to Morrigan easily and helps keeping the archdemon on ice and electrified. The others who tag along are between Zev or Oghren and the last unchangeable spot in the roster is for Leliana, the others remain at the gates. I don't use a healer because I bring a lot, reeeally a lot of lesser health poultices and set them to use it if their health goes to 75 and for the Warden and Morrigan if their Health goes down to 90.

[Morrigans God son]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

As a question that's been bugging me for quite a while, I'd like to ask how many of your brought Morrigan along for the battle with the Archdemon?

I usually bring dog, Morrigan, Alistair or Oghren. Everybody needs a mage.

[Master Shiori]

Unless My Warden is a mage I always use Morrigan. Since she's available practicaly from the beginning I have a lot of freedom to customize her spells and talents to my liking. Which is great since I'm not particularly fond of Wynne, so I avoid using her whenever possible.



P.S. Scrath that first sentence. I use Morrigan even if my Warden is a mage, since he's usually an Arcane Warrior and takes up tanking duties when needed. Also, there is no such thing as too many mages in the party.

[Johnny Chaos]

Who would win in a fight if the Morrigan/ Leliana fight got physical



My money is on Morrigan, Leliana was lucky Morrigan didn't set her hair on fire (That would of been funny) or turned her into a toad, but then again Leliana is resourseful.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

Unless My Warden is a mage I always use Morrigan. Since she's available practicaly from the beginning I have a lot of freedom to customize her spells and talents to my liking. Which is great since I'm not particularly fond of Wynne, so I avoid using her whenever possible.

P.S. Scrath that first sentence. I use Morrigan even if my Warden is a mage, since he's usually an Arcane Warrior and takes up tanking duties when needed. Also, there is no such thing as too many mages in the party.

Heck yeah- I'm running through right now with what'll probably be my "canon" Amell with Morrigan. My Amell= primal/creation with Morrigan= entropy/spirit = great fun!

[IndigoWolfe]

Was recently struck with a writing muse for the Warden's first meeting with Morrigan. Should have it finished soon.

Just FYI, if anyone's interested.

[Master Shiori]

Johnny Chaos wrote...

Who would win in a fight if the Morrigan/ Leliana fight got physical

My money is on Morrigan, Leliana was lucky Morrigan didn't set her hair on fire (That would of been funny) or turned her into a toad, but then again Leliana is resourseful.

Since I love both characters the only fight I'd like to see between them is an exchange of witty remarks (ok, maybe wrestling in caramel pudding while being half naked...).

[IndigoWolfe]

Master Shiori wrote...

Johnny Chaos wrote...

Who would win in a fight if the Morrigan/ Leliana fight got physical

My money is on Morrigan, Leliana was lucky Morrigan didn't set her hair on fire (That would of been funny) or turned her into a toad, but then again Leliana is resourseful.

Since I love both characters the only fight I'd like to see between them is an exchange of witty remarks (ok, maybe wrestling in caramel pudding while being half naked...).

Same here.

Except the pudding would be chocolate. Caramel's nice, but not in massive quantities. (Oh, the last half of that word... )