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[LTS_Guitarian]

Alistair is more like the bumbling cousin to me.

But trust me, being a parent isn't easy.  Hell, it's the hardest thing I've ever had to do.  Still, I wouldn't trade it for anything.  You can read all the books you want on the subject, but those are generally useless.  It's strictly on the job training. 

I see Morrigan being very attached to any children she has, even if she doesn't openly show it.  Like the father that never says "I love you" to his kids, but you know that he does.

[KnightofPhoenix]

What page 2? Blasphemous!



And here is Arcturus and Morrigan fighting side by side

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

What page 2? Blasphemous!

Bah! Damn end of the semester is kicking my butt. I'll be so happy in two weeks time^_^

On a side note, I'm loving my current DA run with my Amell who of course is romancing Morrigan. Hot mage on mage action! They're just so much fun to play as too- its entirely possible to just have them go out together and leave everyone else at camp.

Esbatty wrote...
Okay I'm looking for other insights into  how they think Morrigan would do as a Mother?

Hmmm... well, I think she'd be a protective mother especially when the child is still an infant or otherwise still a toddler or fairly young. You can see it in Witch Hunt even to an extent where she tells you how the God Child is an innocent and doesn't know the fate thats before him. So I think while she may be outwardly strict and a disciplinarian at times, she knew how **** her childhood was with Flemeth. She wouldn't coddle the kid, but she wouldn't go about smashing any Golden Mirror either I don't think.

She seems to want to let the OGB at least for the time kind of have the childhood she never had. So yeah, outwardly she'd try to act like a Flemeth type I'm sure, and I'd guess she would definitely give the OGB her view of the world and all, but at the same time I don't think she'd be the type to totally overburden the kid and crush any child like dreams as harshly as FLemeth did to her.

As the kid grew up, I have no idea how she'd treat an older OGB. Probably would depend on how the OGB reacts to learning of his divinity or whatever it is he has. And probably how Morrigan would go about letting him in on who he truly is and maybe his role, or how Morrigan or Flemeth see his role. For all they know, the OGB would rebel and go ape**** like any teenager is wont to do at times.

LTS_Guitarian wrote...

I see Morrigan  being very attached to any children she has, even if she doesn't openly  show it.  Like the father that never says "I love you" to his kids, but  you know that he does.

^This.
Morrigan clearly has a softer side as you can see with her interactions with Dog, she just doesn't want everyone to see it. And given how possessive she is of the Warden when they're in a romance, I bet she'd be a pretty good mother....then again, she seemingly ditched the Old God baby somewhere during the course of Witch Hunt, so who knows?

Modifié par Brockololly, 08 décembre 2010 - 06:30 .

[LTS_Guitarian]

Brockololly wrote...

^This.
Morrigan clearly has a softer side as you can see with her interactions with Dog, she just doesn't want everyone to see it. And given how possessive she is of the Warden when they're in a romance, I bet she'd be a pretty good mother....then again, she seemingly ditched the Old God baby somewhere during the course of Witch Hunt, so who knows?

Blah, he's a god-child.  He can change his own damn diaper.

[Lord_Anthonior]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And here is Arcturus and Morrigan fighting side by side

That's how I play it all the time, I set mutual tactics when it comes for them to protect each other, If Morrigan is attacked by a warrior, rogue or melee attack I set Anthon to go and use "riposte" stunning them and a frontal back stabbing with the "coup de grace". If the warden is attacked by magic I set Morrigan to use "mind blast" on them and then "shock" or "cone of cold" and once freezed then "stone fist" .

When it comes to fight serial bosses then I set both of them to take lesser health poultices if they constitution goes below 90% so no worries there either. As I said to her mother and in front of her to hear it, "she will not come to harm".

As for Morrigan in a maternal attitude, doesn't she mention something about motherhood or living together and having children? I think I remember she once mentioned something about "wiping snots" though I don't remember the entire dialogue.

[Brockololly]

From this thread:



This is from the dev diary for DA2 posted above, but its supposedly part of an early animatic they had going for DA2 before Origins even came out.

Now how does this relate to Morrigan? Look at the dialogue- we've got Wardens and Orlais. Dammit man. There is even a horse in the background too.

Either they're saving something Morrigan/Orlais for the future, or they hacked up Morrigan and the whole Orlais plot to bits as it seemed clear we'd be going there given how Morrigan heads there and there were so many other hints.

*sigh*

Then again if they had the wheel planned out this early before Origins even was out, I'm thinking thats a bad omen in having the Warden ever return again as a silent PC.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

From this thread:



This is from the dev diary for DA2 posted above, but its supposedly part of an early animatic they had going for DA2 before Origins even came out.

Now how does this relate to Morrigan? Look at the dialogue- we've got Wardens and Orlais. Dammit man. There is even a horse in the background too.

Either they're saving something Morrigan/Orlais for the future, or they hacked up Morrigan and the whole Orlais plot to bits as it seemed clear we'd be going there given how Morrigan heads there and there were so many other hints.

*sigh*

Then again if they had the wheel planned out this early before Origins even was out, I'm thinking thats a bad omen in having the Warden ever return again as a silent PC.

Don't tell me you can't tell that's the DA:O Warden standing next to Hawke?   Same armor, same shield and same sword.

And I doubt they're saving anything for the future besides Morrigan herself. Plans get changed all the time in game development and I'm pretty sure Hawke's rise to power was one of the possible stories that writers wanted to tell since the start of DA as a franchise. David Gaider did say they have a whole bunch of potential stories lined up across Thedas. It's just the case of deciding which ones to tell.

Now, that screenshot could represent anything. It could be a potential future game, but it could also just be the artist messing around with the new art style and throwing in random things, places and characters.

[Master Shiori]

Here's what Mary Kirby had to say about it:

Mary Kirby said...
Nothing in it ever came from the writers. It was a high-level "This is the general look and feel we want to go for" concept thing.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 08 décembre 2010 - 11:13 .

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

Here's what Mary Kirby had to say about it:

Mary Kirby said...
Nothing in it ever came from the writers. It was a high-level "This is the general look and feel we want to go for" concept thing.

Yeah I noticed that. Hopes dashed as usual for the Morrigan thread...

*sigh*

[Giggles_Manically]

@Brock:

[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...

From this thread:



This is from the dev diary for DA2 posted above, but its supposedly part of an early animatic they had going for DA2 before Origins even came out.

Now how does this relate to Morrigan? Look at the dialogue- we've got Wardens and Orlais. Dammit man. There is even a horse in the background too.

Either they're saving something Morrigan/Orlais for the future, or they hacked up Morrigan and the whole Orlais plot to bits as it seemed clear we'd be going there given how Morrigan heads there and there were so many other hints.

*sigh*

Then again if they had the wheel planned out this early before Origins even was out, I'm thinking thats a bad omen in having the Warden ever return again as a silent PC.

And lemme guess, the girl next to helmet guy is supposed to be Morrigan?

I think that that was something that was designed way early in development, probably before a couple of the later DAO DLCs.


IDK, maybe it's because I'm not living in the DA2 forums clinging to any of the latest updates, but I'm slowly starting to feel a bit of disconnect now with the DA franchise. I mean, it's been a few months since I last experienced any DA content (when I did my canon run which concluded about a week after WH), and we're still a few months away from DA2... It's probably going to feel a bit awkward getting back into my DA universe again after a relatively long hiatus. Let's face it, for a while, we did have a relatively decent stream of DA content to keep us engaged in our own DA universes, and now there's just been nothing for the past while...

[LTS_Guitarian]

I think Bioware is kind of screwing themselves with the DA universe at this point. I guess that's what happens when something makes a lot of money, too many hands try to stir the pot and what comes out is nothing but a garbled mess.



Bioware could take a few pointers from Blizzard...now there's a company that knows how to make a sequel.

[Brockololly]

MKDAWUSS wrote...
 Let's face it, for a while, we did have a relatively decent stream of DA content to keep us engaged in our own DA universes, and now there's just been nothing for the past while...

Yeah, I thought that was the whole point with the DLC- to keep things going so you didn't have any huge lulls in content?

Meh....

[Master Shiori]

LTS_Guitarian wrote...

I think Bioware is kind of screwing themselves with the DA universe at this point. I guess that's what happens when something makes a lot of money, too many hands try to stir the pot and what comes out is nothing but a garbled mess.

Bioware could take a few pointers from Blizzard...now there's a company that knows how to make a sequel.

And Blizzard could take as many pointers from Bioware, particularly when it comes to story driven narrative and dialogue.

Don't get me wrong, Blizzard creates fantastic worlds and characters, but writing has always been their biggest weakness.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...
 Let's face it, for a while, we did have a relatively decent stream of DA content to keep us engaged in our own DA universes, and now there's just been nothing for the past while...

Yeah, I thought that was the whole point with the DLC- to keep things going so you didn't have any huge lulls in content?

Meh....

Well, to be honest I don't think it's realistic to expect from Bioware to keep creating content for Origins when you've got a full fledged sequal in the works, which will require it's own dlc.

The dlc team is most likely working on new content for DA2 which might come as early as March 2011. Kind of how we got Blood Dragon armor, Stone Prisoner and Warden's Keep practicaly on Origins' release day.

After Witch Hunt, which imo served as a fiting conclussion to DA:O, it's unlikely that we'd get another dlc like that or Leliana's Song. Most likely we'd get stuff like Feastday Pranks and Gifts or Golems of Angarrak.

[Esbatty]

Why'd you have to mention Golems of Amgarrak? Now I'm getting misty eyed over leaving the Runic Golem behind.

[Master Shiori]

Really? I got all misty eyed leaving Shale behind. That golem was awesome. Runic was too quiet and lifeless by comparison.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote..

And Blizzard could take as many pointers from Bioware, particularly when it comes to story driven narrative and dialogue.

Don't get me wrong, Blizzard creates fantastic worlds and characters, but writing has always been their biggest weakness.

Blizzard makes fantastic games but yes, they need some help in the dialogue department. Especially if you've seen the leaked ending to Heart of the Swarm...

Master Shiori wrote...
Well, to be honest I don't think it's realistic to expect from Bioware to  keep creating content for Origins when you've got a full fledged sequal  in the works, which will require it's own dlc.

No, thats true. I was just thinking having more in line with something like they're supposedly doing in ME2 to ME3 with DLC that connects things. I still contend episodic DLC where we played as some new PC through some episodic DLC and then in DA2 that person shows up as a NPC would have been neat.

Master Shiori wrote...
After Witch  Hunt, which imo served as a fiting conclussion to DA:O, it's unlikely  that we'd get another dlc like that or Leliana's Song. Most likely we'd  get stuff like Feastday Pranks and Gifts or Golems of Angarrak.

Eh, Witch Hunt was a decent ending if you romanced Morrigan. But for most other Wardens and as the final chapter to Origins? Meh- it was lacking any punch.

Master Shiori wrote...

Really? I got all misty eyed  leaving Shale behind. That golem was awesome.

I really, really, really want Shale (or Shayle if you prefer) to come back in DA2 or DA3 as a sassy, smarmy female dwarf.

Modifié par Brockololly, 09 décembre 2010 - 06:14 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Brockololly wrote...
Blizzard makes fantastic games but yes, they need some help in the dialogue department. Especially if you've seen the leaked ending to Heart of the Swarm...

I think StarCraft 1 had much better dialogue.
And the ending of the Heat of the Swarm was leaked? Don't wana see it, but I can't say I expected much.

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I think StarCraft 1 had much better dialogue.
And the ending of the Heat of the Swarm was leaked? Don't wana see it, but I can't say I expected much.

Yeah, I'd agree with you there KoP.

Yup -its the pre visualization CG with what seems like placeholder VO  with Kerrigan, Mengsk, and Raynor.....yeah, it kind of seems like they goofed things up. ANd it definitely seems like the ending was legit, as Activision has been pulling the video off the web left and right.


And to keep it on topic with Morrigan, who wins in a fight- Morrigan or Kerrigan?  Ha- here's another idea to add to Ximena's list- Zerg infested Morrigan!

Modifié par Brockololly, 10 décembre 2010 - 02:16 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...


Eh, Witch Hunt was a decent ending if you romanced Morrigan. But for most other Wardens and as the final chapter to Origins? Meh- it was lacking any punch.

Yep. I hardly call that an ending at all. And it didn't even do much of a job of ramping up into DA2 either. It was a good transitory act for something we won't be seeing for a while (if at all).

I really, really, really want Shale (or Shayle if you prefer) to come back in DA2 or DA3 as a sassy, smarmy female dwarf.

In most of my runs, I just send Shale on her way. If I could have been able to complete the quest (journal wise) and still leave Shale as a statue I think I would have. Just didn't find much interest or use from said character.


Anyway, anyone have some good 3D fanart of Morrigan?

[LTS_Guitarian]

Master Shiori wrote...

And Blizzard could take as many pointers from Bioware, particularly when it comes to story driven narrative and dialogue.

Don't get me wrong, Blizzard creates fantastic worlds and characters, but writing has always been their biggest weakness.

I'd have to disagree a bit with you on that.  I think Blizzard's stories are very well done.  Kerrigan's betrayal from Star Craft comes to mind, as does the enitre plot from Diablo II.  Dragon Age, while very much story driven, is cluttered with plot holes and inconsistencies that drive me bonkers. (ie. Wynne tells you flat out that Grey Wardens can't hold a title, but no one seems to mention this when Alistair is made king...)  And don't even get me started on how much Bioware missed out on a golden opportunity to expand on the character relationships with the PC, especially Morrigan's.  There could (should) have been much more.

My point, though, is that Blizzard takes their sweet time in releasing sequels (sometimes frustratingly so).  But in the end you know you'll have a quality product.  That's exactly why I'm avoiding DA2.  As I've said before, I don't feel like getting burned again.  The ending to DA:O still pisses me off even a year later.
I'm not saying Morrigan should have stayed; I understand why she left.  It's *how* they did it that sucks balls.

But that's just me.  I know a lot of others feel differently, and that's cool.

[Brockololly]

MKDAWUSS wrote...
Anyway, anyone have some good 3D fanart of Morrigan?

Well here is some 2D art:



By: lagoonnw

Its a work in progress (she knows the eyes should be yellow=]) but I think it looks absolutely fantastic and I love the subtle smirk.

[MKDAWUSS]

It'll do.



I guess I'm somebody who's starting to get into 3D art a lot more than 2D. It can make something a bit more lifelike IMO.

[Esbatty]

Master Shiori wrote...

Really? I got all misty eyed leaving Shale behind. That golem was awesome. Runic was too quiet and lifeless by comparison.

Hey, Runic Golem was the anti-Shale - and not that I hate Shale - infact she is part of my All Star Girl Power Squad (Lel, Morri, Shale) but I wanted to keep him. You can never have enough Golems. 50% of the time Branka gets her way, and Shale gets lied to, 'cause nothing makes a Shriek crap its pants faster than seeing 4 Golems barreling down on it.

MKDAWUSS wrote...

It'll do.

I guess I'm somebody who's starting to get into 3D art a lot more than 2D. It can make something a bit more lifelike IMO.

The Rule 34 page has a few 3D Morrigans but the faces aren't terribly close to Morrigans and she's basically nude in all of them so I just have to trust that they put the right Character tags on them when they were submitted