Terra_Ex wrote...
And here's Brock's Morri-clone army. How did you like the 5~ seconds of PC gameplay you fought so hard for in the dev diary, Brock?
HAHA- oh man, this is great! hahaha:lol:
Oh, yeah, that PC footage.....ummm yeah. My thoughts on it are elsewhere...<_<
Those Morri screens are
gold Terra! Gold!Terra_Ex wrote...
But then I wonder if they actually plan to have much divergence in DA, here's Gaider's thoughts on branching plotlines back in 2003 (scroll down a bit) & 2006 respectively. I was pleased to learn that Witcher 2 supposedly features three separate openings which *gasp* are affected by your choices in the first game and seeing that level of reactivity from the off is the very definition of choice and consequence imo. Like Brock has mentioned, if I see any codexing or similar method of handwaving previous decisions regarding Morri in DA3 I shall be far from impressed.
Nice find on those old Gaider quotes. I'd hope they have the DR and MOrigan's story as the maybe one thing that gets genuine continuity or divergence going forward. I 'm just really curious how much continuity will be in DA2 even though. Or the recently announced ME3 for that matter... (which plot wise sounds just like Origins- "gather your armies!")
Terra_Ex wrote...
On a more positive note early 2011 looks to have an absolute plethora of amazing titles coming out including many sequels that are hitting the nail on the head.
Absolutely.
I've been reading up on Deus Ex: Human Revolution of late, and that
looks very nice. The devs for it aren't shying away from the original's roots or trying to bury things (hooray for grid inventory!). And its apparently going to use DX11 on the PC, have better AI for the PC and have its own UI and all that. Oh, and its coming out the same day as DA2. Then you've got Shogun 2 a week later. If DA2 doesn't start showing something I may happily forget about it until a Steam sale rolls around. And the of course you have the Witcher 2 in May.
Not to go too far off topic, but the more I think of it, the more DA2 reminds me of Invisible War, Deus Ex's sequel- both games are sequels to a praised original, with both sequels being designed for the consoles and seemingly being "streamlined" with RPG features being shaved down. Invisible War wasn't terrible, but it certainly didn't live up to the original. WIll that be DA2?
Terra_Ex wrote...
Definitely, Morri has quite a significant fanbase, the DR/OGB plotline is pretty much first thing that's brought up when discussing the future of DA, even with those that aren't as... passionate about the franchise as those on this board. We shall see what comes however, I'm sure there will be more misery to come our way yet...
Indeed.
I think, like any survey or poll, the outcome will depend on where you're administering it. The thing is, I'd wager that Morrigan likely was the most romanced character or even if you didn't romance her, there are likely people that maybe had their male Warden do the DR with her. Because like you said, the DR/OGB plot is almost always the first thing that comes up when you discuss Origins with somebody in terms of a future DA game.
LTS_Guitarian wrote...
Don't get me wrong. I wish Morrigan was more popular than she is. I wish everyone would pester
Bioware about her night and day until we get the game and the ending we want. But, as I said before, from what I've seen, she's not the most popular character. I don't mean that as a knock against her, just stating a fact as I see it.
Again, I think any polls and stuff showing Leliana or Zev as more popular than Alistair or Morrigan is more due to where they're being taken. Maybe she isn't as popular in terms of generating tons of fanfic or art or that kind of thing, but within the confines of the game and maybe stats like how often people had her in their party or how many romanced her or those sort of metrics, I'd imagine she comes out quite highly and love her or hate her, she is one of the more memorable characters from Origins.
ejoslin wrote...
Witch Hunt actually changes Morrigan's Origins endings -- it gives people who romanced her more closure as well, which is a good thing. But it was made because so many of their audience was disappointed with the way the end of her story was handled.
Right- they likely made the DLC they thought would rake in the $$$ too. And given the big mystery surrounding Morrigan, saw that as a good cash in no doubt. ANd it does provide some measure of closure that was sorely lacking if you romanced Morrigan in Origins....closure at least until she turns up again, sans Warden.
*sigh*
Terra_Ex wrote...
Well for me, I kind of have to place "safe bets" on other franchises to mitigate the annoyance of being let down
with a lackluster sequel (though I admit I really didn't see it coming with DA2, when I finished DA:O the sequel was a definite pre-order based on what happened in the final moments of DA:O, but we all know what
happened next). At least with other games I can maintain a fairly positive outlook without worrying about worst-case scenarios or dreaming up the most convenient method for the devs to handwave my previous PC/choices, etc to make room for the next epic hero.
Yeah. Still haven't preordered the SE- nevermind the price hike of the PC version to $60 doesn't help. But there are certainly other games coming out early next year to play that don't seem too keen to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Terra_Ex wrote...
WH was always destined to get the short end of the stick sadly since it was the last one they made and resources had to be devoted to Hawke's awesomeness. It gave closure within the context of Origins for wardens who romanced her but created an expectation that I hope BioWare will account for in a big way in the
future.
Yeah, who knows what they maybe originally had planned with their whole 2 years of DL shtick they gave up on because of Hawke's button pressing awesomeness? Not that the DLC was anything to write home about, but maybe the concurrent work on DA2 was affecting the DLC quality?
Terra_Ex wrote...
Hmm, I think you're doing the Morri fandom a disservice, don't doubt the magnitude of the Morri-fanbase just because we don't make the most noise. The demand and loyalty is there but Gaider uses us as his own personal punching bag which means we often have the wind taken out of our sails. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]
Thats the thing really- the Bros we may be irritated with for having BioWare cater to with the direction of DA2 are likely the same people who, if they played Origins, saw Morrigan and had the lightbulb go off in their head when they saw Morrigan and went "BOOBS!" and romanced her. I wouldn't doubt it anyway if thats why she ended up being the most romanced character.
Of course I'd be curious to know how many completed her romance though too as opposed to simply sleeping with her.
Terra_Ex wrote...
Or maybe females are by and large simply more socially inclined than males and the fact that when a game like Origins comes along that actually provides something unique for them it is somewhat celebrated, while for males it's almost a given there will be an attractive female lead in the fray. When you consider the primary audience of the DA fanbase is likely male you'll likely find that female LI's will win by default. Whether their fans will choose to spend their free time posting about their love for that character and quantifying it as posts/tweets, etc has little bearing on the matter.
Right- and I'd wager that unless another traditionally attractive female companion comes along in DA2, Isabela, with her boobs which are as big as her head and no pants wearing ways, will wind up being the most romanced companion in DA2. I'd guess Morrigan and Alistair's popularity is also in part due to their introduction early in the game and then their plot relevance in the game too.
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See, that's a real issue, though. There was so much choice in the game that people ended up with vastly different endings. I do wonder if any of these stories will be touched upon again, and if they can be done in a way that doesn't destroy other people's stories.
