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MKDAWUSS wrote...

All I'm really thinking we'll see (and I probably shouldn't even expect this) is a minor reference to Morrigan and that's it. I'm thinking a Warden-Morrigan reference will be a miracle at best.


Yeah, I really don't see them mentioning anything about Morrigan and the Warden.  Morrigan they probably will, but only in the context of the game.  Since their romance really has nothing to do with the overall plot (At least to the makers of the game) then I doubt they'll say anything.

Remember, this is BiowarEA we're talking about.  If they can find a way to ****** you off, they'll use it.

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I think that if the demo is real to the game then Flemeth will mention that there are only two wardens alive but I suppose that's all there will be of mentioning since the time of Morrigan and the Warden's relationship happens way later and Flemeth wouldn't know about it unless if the fight agains't her appears in DA2. Other than that, I doubt there will be talks about Morrigan, the warden or the two of them together.



Still, if it does appear I will be surprised.



LTS, you make biowarEA sound as if they were the chantry hahaha, since Origins is my first game I play from Bioware I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for DA2, afterwards I'll consider if you are correct with your statement. hahaha.

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Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS, you make biowarEA sound as if they were the chantry hahaha, since Origins is my first game I play from Bioware I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for DA2, afterwards I'll consider if you are correct with your statement. hahaha.


To me, they're more like the hot girlfriend who teases the hell out of you but never puts out.

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Mike Laidlaw confirmed that there will be references to Morrigan in DA2, but refused to say more than that. Considering that Flemeth plays a part in DA2 I asume she'll mention her daughter at least once.

Other than that it's hard to say what will or won't be referenced in DA2.



The fact that recently a german gaming magazine revealed that Hawke and co. will embark on an expedition into the Deep Roads alongside some Grey Wardens may mean that you get to hear about your Warden character from them (since tales of his accomplishments most likely spread within the order). Heck, if the rumours of Anders being a party member in DA2 are true, he could also fill in the details of your actions dutring Awakening and maybe even mention the Warden leaving Vigil's Keep to search for Morrigan.



The thing that gives me hope for some reference of Warden/Morrigan relationship is the fact that in Witch Hunt both the Wardens and the Chantry suspect Morrigan had a hand in the Warden surviving the Archdemon's death. So I wouldn't be surprised if in DA2 somebody mentioned the posibility of the Warden's witch lover being responsible for his survival.

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS, you make biowarEA sound as if they were the chantry hahaha, since Origins is my first game I play from Bioware I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for DA2, afterwards I'll consider if you are correct with your statement. hahaha.


To me, they're more like the hot girlfriend who teases the hell out of you but never puts out.


That's even worse, so witch hunt was what? the tease? hahaha. Morrigan is worth the patience I just hope they can come up with something as good as in origins and with a continuation from where witch hunt ended.

I'll have to wait till march to see what it's gonna be, anyway I'm getting it for the DA3 and IF in case something comes in DA2 that may affect Morrigan's return I want to make sure not to temper with it and to see what the creators have in mind for her return. Anyway, I have no expectations of them being mentioned (as for their relationship) but still enjoy the game and wait for DA3 wich they already said they'll make.

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You never know, they might actually have a bigger role for her in DA2 than I give them credit for. But from what I hear, DA3 is our best chance at a Warden/Morrigan reunion. And even then I'm not holding my breath since Gaider said the whole romance thing was over with. But money talks. If enough people demand it, they'll have to put it in or risk alienating a large portion of their customer base.

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Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS, you make biowarEA sound as if they were the chantry hahaha, since Origins is my first game I play from Bioware I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for DA2, afterwards I'll consider if you are correct with your statement. hahaha.


To me, they're more like the hot girlfriend who teases the hell out of you but never puts out.


That's even worse, so witch hunt was what? the tease? hahaha. Morrigan is worth the patience I just hope they can come up with something as good as in origins and with a continuation from where witch hunt ended.

I'll have to wait till march to see what it's gonna be, anyway I'm getting it for the DA3 and IF in case something comes in DA2 that may affect Morrigan's return I want to make sure not to temper with it and to see what the creators have in mind for her return. Anyway, I have no expectations of them being mentioned (as for their relationship) but still enjoy the game and wait for DA3 wich they already said they'll make.


OK...I have not been lurking in some time now. When did BioWare confirm a DA3? O.o
I think I'm going to pass on DA2, I was tempted to buy it only because of the Flemeth appearence. I'll probably play it somewhere down the line though...but no Morrigan, really sucks alot out of DA for me. It's the same if there was no Flemeth or Alistair.

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Morrigans God son wrote...

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

LTS, you make biowarEA sound as if they were the chantry hahaha, since Origins is my first game I play from Bioware I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for DA2, afterwards I'll consider if you are correct with your statement. hahaha.


To me, they're more like the hot girlfriend who teases the hell out of you but never puts out.


That's even worse, so witch hunt was what? the tease? hahaha. Morrigan is worth the patience I just hope they can come up with something as good as in origins and with a continuation from where witch hunt ended.

I'll have to wait till march to see what it's gonna be, anyway I'm getting it for the DA3 and IF in case something comes in DA2 that may affect Morrigan's return I want to make sure not to temper with it and to see what the creators have in mind for her return. Anyway, I have no expectations of them being mentioned (as for their relationship) but still enjoy the game and wait for DA3 wich they already said they'll make.


OK...I have not been lurking in some time now. When did BioWare confirm a DA3? O.o
I think I'm going to pass on DA2, I was tempted to buy it only because of the Flemeth appearence. I'll probably play it somewhere down the line though...but no Morrigan, really sucks alot out of DA for me. It's the same if there was no Flemeth or Alistair.


There was an interview about DA2 from a german magazine (I think), the interviewer was german and I believe Brock put the link somewhere in the thread, they talked about possible ends in DA2 and also about DA3 or at least the person interviewed (don't remember his name) sounded as if DA3 was a fact.  I know, it sucks no Morrigan in the game, but maybe now is not her time to appear. For Flemeth is ok if she appears, cunning old bat and as for alistair well... I couldn't care less if he doesn't appear anymore, though I think he'll have a cameo since the voice actor mentioned that he worked a little in DA2 but that is personally of no matter to me. :happy:

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Really it would not be hard to make most Dragon Age players happy in DA2.



Hawke: So did any of you ever meet the Warden?

Grey Warden: Me no? But I did hear about him/her from other wardens.



Then they could give a line for each LI or the ending in Awakening/Witch Hunt.



Not very hard right there Bioware.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Really it would not be hard to make most Dragon Age players happy in DA2.

Hawke: So did any of you ever meet the Warden?
Grey Warden: Me no? But I did hear about him/her from other wardens.

Then they could give a line for each LI or the ending in Awakening/Witch Hunt.

Not very hard right there Bioware.


And most of it would probably have been things they've heard rather than witnessed, considering the Hero of Ferelden spent little time in the company of the Grey Wardens.

Modifié par MKDAWUSS, 18 janvier 2011 - 03:58 .


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Lord_Anthonior wrote...

There was an interview about DA2 from a german magazine (I think), the interviewer was german and I believe Brock put the link somewhere in the thread, they talked about possible ends in DA2 and also about DA3 or at least the person interviewed (don't remember his name) sounded as if DA3 was a fact.  I know, it sucks no Morrigan in the game, but maybe now is not her time to appear. For Flemeth is ok if she appears, cunning old bat and as for alistair well... I couldn't care less if he doesn't appear anymore, though I think he'll have a cameo since the voice actor mentioned that he worked a little in DA2 but that is personally of no matter to me. :happy:


Mike Laidlaw also said that there would be another Dragon Age game after DA2. It was recorded live so I can't give you a link to check out.

Honestly, I would be surprised if Bioware stopped with Dragon Age at 3 games, especially since DA:O sold really well and DA2 repeats that sucess.

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ok i just happen to see this. i've tried reading through other peoples posts, but i still havn't seen the answer to my question.



Has anyone seen what the kid of Morrigan and the Warden looks like? Is he even human. i played Witch Hunt, and was every excited, thinking mabye i would see what the kid looks like, or at least find out more about him. But instead Morrigan just says he has an important destiny and the Warden and Morrigan leave through the mirror. did i make a mistake in the way i replied in order to see the kid?

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Sparo Shadows wrote...

ok i just happen to see this. i've tried reading through other peoples posts, but i still havn't seen the answer to my question.

Has anyone seen what the kid of Morrigan and the Warden looks like? Is he even human. i played Witch Hunt, and was every excited, thinking mabye i would see what the kid looks like, or at least find out more about him. But instead Morrigan just says he has an important destiny and the Warden and Morrigan leave through the mirror. did i make a mistake in the way i replied in order to see the kid?


I would think he looks like any other human being, OGB or not.

And no, no one has yet to see Morrigan's child.

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

Sparo Shadows wrote...

ok i just happen to see this. i've tried reading through other peoples posts, but i still havn't seen the answer to my question.

Has anyone seen what the kid of Morrigan and the Warden looks like? Is he even human. i played Witch Hunt, and was every excited, thinking mabye i would see what the kid looks like, or at least find out more about him. But instead Morrigan just says he has an important destiny and the Warden and Morrigan leave through the mirror. did i make a mistake in the way i replied in order to see the kid?


I would think he looks like any other human being, OGB or not.

And no, no one has yet to see Morrigan's child.


Well then in that case, i only have three ideas left considering the child
1: There will be another DLC for DA, though its not likely
2: The Child will be involved in DA 2
3: or there will never be anything else involving the child

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Sparo Shadows wrote...

ok i just happen to see this. i've tried reading through other peoples posts, but i still havn't seen the answer to my question.

Has anyone seen what the kid of Morrigan and the Warden looks like? Is he even human. i played Witch Hunt, and was every excited, thinking mabye i would see what the kid looks like, or at least find out more about him. But instead Morrigan just says he has an important destiny and the Warden and Morrigan leave through the mirror. did i make a mistake in the way i replied in order to see the kid?


Basing from the dragon age lore, the kid's gonna be human even if it's a product from an elven-human relationship. For dwarves, I think it's more like half-dwarf-half-human thing... though I think due to technical limitations, the kid will end up human anyway.

No one has seen this child yet.


Also, I think it's highly unlikely for the child to show up in DA2... since that would place the kid aroun 6-8? Plus we don't really know how long Morri has to stay in the eluvian.

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ximena wrote...

Sparo Shadows wrote...

ok i just happen to see this. i've tried reading through other peoples posts, but i still havn't seen the answer to my question.

Has anyone seen what the kid of Morrigan and the Warden looks like? Is he even human. i played Witch Hunt, and was every excited, thinking mabye i would see what the kid looks like, or at least find out more about him. But instead Morrigan just says he has an important destiny and the Warden and Morrigan leave through the mirror. did i make a mistake in the way i replied in order to see the kid?


Basing from the dragon age lore, the kid's gonna be human even if it's a product from an elven-human relationship. For dwarves, I think it's more like half-dwarf-half-human thing... though I think due to technical limitations, the kid will end up human anyway.

No one has seen this child yet.


Also, I think it's highly unlikely for the child to show up in DA2... since that would place the kid aroun 6-8? Plus we don't really know how long Morri has to stay in the eluvian.




I guess i hadn't considered the species diffrences if you use somthing other then a Human. But what i was talking about was because he has the dragons soul in him. i didn't know how that would effect his species, even if his body was human.

I didn't know the timeframe between DA, and DA2 so i guess i didn't think of that. though he could still be there as someone you see on a quest for DA2

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Hmmm. I don't know if Bioware will be pulling a look with the kid looking more dragon-like. I'm guessing he'd look more exotic than his mother, but nothing too drastic.

Modifié par ximena, 19 janvier 2011 - 04:38 .


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ximena wrote...

Hmmm. I don't know if Bioware will be pulling a look with the kid looking more dragon-like. I'm guessing he'd look more exotic than his mother, but nothing too drastic.


it he will just be the kind of character where when you see him he just has the presents of someone with alot of power. He would have to have some sign that he has somthing has powerful as a dragon's soul inside him. Or mabye it will be one of those things where you don't realize he is the kid until later into a quest or somthing.

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ximena wrote...

Hmmm. I don't know if Bioware will be pulling a look with the kid looking more dragon-like. I'm guessing he'd look more exotic than his mother, but nothing too drastic.


I'd guess he'll have Morrigan's yellow eyes as thats kind of part of her look and would be a pretty easy visual cue to ID the Old God Baby. Maybe he'll be able to shapeshift into a dragon? I just doubt they'd make him look like some dragon-human person or anything too crazy, but you never know.

I did think it weird you didn't see Morrigan with him in Witch Hunt though- just from a parenting POV, why would Morrigan not have the OGB with her? Although thats probably more down to BioWare not having the budget to make a baby/small child model for a DLC.

Sparo Shadows wrote...
it he will just be the kind of  character where when you see him he just has the presents of someone
with alot of power. He would have to have some sign that he has somthing has powerful as a dragon's soul inside him. Or mabye it will be one of  those things where you don't realize he is the kid until later into a  quest or somthing.


Ha- of course, whenever the OGB appears again, it would depend on how old he is and how time works in the Eluvian and all that. But if he turned up and was still a kid or teen, I  just thought of Jade Empire and WIld Flower, the little girl that had the demon/spirits in her, so that she'd just sort of shapeshift to demon form in combat.

If Morrigan and the OGB have any role in DA3, I'd guess DA3 doesn't take place too long after DA2 ends. COnsidering DA2 seems to end with the world on the brink of war and how Darrah spilled the beans on Cassandra having a more major role, I don't think we'd be looking at any huge time jump. So if DA2 takes place 8 years, its likely the OGB will be about 8-10 or so at the end of DA2. Unless time works differently wherever Morrigan and the Warden went.

Modifié par Brockololly, 19 janvier 2011 - 06:41 .


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How long after Origins does DA2 take place? I thought it was like 30 years or something.

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

How long after Origins does DA2 take place? I thought it was like 30 years or something.


I thought the DA 2 website stated that you span a decade or something to that effect.

30 years...that's a bit more Star Warsy...

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Sparo Shadows wrote...

1: There will be another DLC for DA, though its not likely


No, Bioware said that Witch Hunt was the last DLC for Origins. From here on everything they make will be for DA2.

Sparo Shadows wrote...

2: The Child will be involved in DA 2


As Ximena said, the kid is 6-8 years old at the time of DA2 so unlikely. Also, we don't know how long Morrigan is planning to stay in the Eluvian.
The only chance of seeing the kid is when Morrigan returns in a future DA games (possibly as early as DA3)

Sparo Shadows wrote...

3: or there will never be anything else involving the child


David Gaider said that Dark Ritual was the biggest choice from Origins and that we will see the consequences of that. We don't know exactly when but it will happen.

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

How long after Origins does DA2 take place? I thought it was like 30 years or something.


DA2 starts right after the Battle of Ostagar and lasts 10 years. Therefore it spans the length of DA:O, Awakening and Witch Hunt.

Origins lasted about 2 years. Awakening was around 6-8 months. I think Witch Hunt starts about 2 years after the end of Origins or something.

Tha means the Warden is having his adventures during the Hawke's first 4 years in DA2.

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Yeah, I knew about the Origins time scales. Although, from what I heard, Witch Hunt takes place just barely a year after the end of Origins, right after Awakening (which makes sense given Awakening's epilogue). But I could have sworn that I read somewhere that DA2 takes place like 30 years later. I don't remember where, though.

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I think if there's going to be anything dragon-like in the old god kid, it would be applied to some of his armor/clothing design and of course his powers. Though the way I see it, the kid has one giant potential to be the most powerful mage in Thedas during his existence.