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ximena wrote...

I think if there's going to be anything dragon-like in the old god kid, it would be applied to some of his armor/clothing design and of course his powers. Though the way I see it, the kid has one giant potential to be the most powerful mage in Thedas during his existence.


I don't think it has been said that the kid is a mage though it would make perfect sense if he is and his looks I suppose most be as human as any other with maybe Morrigan's eyes, maybe just the power and the personality are the traits that would make the difference that he has the sould of an old god. If he is a mage then yeah, I agree that he could be the most powerful in Thedas since there isn't so far any other mage with the soul or power of an ancient God.

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Lord_Anthonior wrote...

I don't think it has been said that the kid is a mage though it would make perfect sense if he is and his looks I suppose most be as human as anyother with maybe Morrigan's eyes, maybe just the power and the personality are the traits that would make the difference that he has the sould of an old god, if he is a mage then yeah, I agree that he could be the most powerful in Thedas since there isn't so far any other mage with the soul or power of an ancient God.


Okay, so how does the child tie in with Hawke?  Morrigan says at the end of WH that change is coming.  And from what I hear, Hawke is going to turn everything on its ear.  Does that mean she knows what he's going to do?  Not that it would surprise me if she did.  Or is the child the catalyst for the change?

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

I don't think it has been said that the kid is a mage though it would make perfect sense if he is and his looks I suppose most be as human as anyother with maybe Morrigan's eyes, maybe just the power and the personality are the traits that would make the difference that he has the sould of an old god, if he is a mage then yeah, I agree that he could be the most powerful in Thedas since there isn't so far any other mage with the soul or power of an ancient God.


Okay, so how does the child tie in with Hawke?  Morrigan says at the end of WH that change is coming.  And from what I hear, Hawke is going to turn everything on its ear.  Does that mean she knows what he's going to do?  Not that it would surprise me if she did.  Or is the child the catalyst for the change?


I don't think the child has to tie in with Hawke. It's Flemeth who is moving in DAII. The way I understand it, there's a war brewing and Hawke is the only one who can stop it (?). And Cass is seeking the legend. Blah blah blah.

And the catalyst? Didn't morrigan say that the ritual was only the start/catalyst? 

I have an inkling Morrigan knows/found out what Flemeth was planning. And now she's training her son to be able to withstand whatever happens when the time comes.

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I thought of somthing. most of us are just thinking about the Old God Child's looks based off Morrigan and the god soul. But what about the darkspawn/arch demon blood from the warden? Is it possible that the Warden because of what he turned into could effect the child as well?



Morrigan said he was an innocent(to my great suprise with a mother like Morrigan LOL). So could that mean that either in DA3 we either play as him, or he will be an allie. Hopefully he doesn't go bad. He will most likely have Morrigan's, the Warden's and the Old Gods powers. that sounds like a real kick ass person (Mage+Warden+Dragon=DAMN).

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ximena wrote...

LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Okay, so how does the child tie in with Hawke?  Morrigan says at the end of WH that change is coming.  And from what I hear, Hawke is going to turn everything on its ear.  Does that mean she knows what he's going to do?  Not that it would surprise me if she did.  Or is the child the catalyst for the change?


I don't think the child has to tie in with Hawke. It's Flemeth who is moving in DAII. The way I understand it, there's a war brewing and Hawke is the only one who can stop it (?). And Cass is seeking the legend. Blah blah blah.

And the catalyst? Didn't morrigan say that the ritual was only the start/catalyst? 

I have an inkling Morrigan knows/found out what Flemeth was planning. And now she's training her son to be able to withstand whatever happens when the time comes.


Well, what she said is that "the ritual was the means to an end" and not knowing what Flemeth was planning and that she wasn't trully human and of course to hunt her, but that might be a bit difficult considering that my warden went with Morrigan through the Eluvian, but the idea does appeal, after all, I already tried once to kill that nutty old bat for Morrigan.

It's too soon to know what that change is and who is going to fight to their last fiber but it seems that such change might be beneficial to Morrigan, maybe in freedom or in something else, even probably in a larger scale....Good old encryptic ending in witch hunt, all we can do is speculate. I do doubt that the kid has anything to do with Hawke.

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Sparo Shadows wrote...

I thought of somthing. most of us are just thinking about the Old God Child's looks based off Morrigan and the god soul. But what about the darkspawn/arch demon blood from the warden? Is it possible that the Warden because of what he turned into could effect the child as well?

Morrigan said he was an innocent(to my great suprise with a mother like Morrigan LOL). So could that mean that either in DA3 we either play as him, or he will be an allie. Hopefully he doesn't go bad. He will most likely have Morrigan's, the Warden's and the Old Gods powers. that sounds like a real kick ass person (Mage+Warden+Dragon=DAMN).



As far as I know, the taint would be destroyed as the old god's soul is making itself cozy in the fetus.

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Considering that we know little of what kind of change Hawke and Flemeth will bring about in DA2, other than that it results in the world being on the brink of war, it's hard to judge whether or not the change is beneficial to Morrigan in any way.

Maybe we'll have a better idea once we've played DA2, but right now it's impossible to say for certain.

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Blood by itself wouldn't affect the child's appearance. That's where genes and DNA come in. But it *is* the taint, after all, so it may play some part.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Maybe we'll have a better idea once we've played DA2, but right now it's impossible to say for certain.


Let me know how it turns out.  I'll be standing on the sidelines rooting for you.

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Blood by itself wouldn't affect the child's appearance. That's where genes and DNA come in. But it *is* the taint, after all, so it may play some part.


I know its blood, but like you just said its the Taint. didn't that change alot about the Warden, not just his blood, so its hard telling what all it can effect.



LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Maybe we'll have a better idea once we've played DA2, but right now it's impossible to say for certain.


Let me know how it turns out.  I'll be standing on the sidelines rooting for you.



lol well i'm going to get the game the day it comes out. i have it pre-ordered already. I can't wait to play it. i really do want to find out what happened with the kid, hopfully even if he isn't in the next game, there will be some sort of thing were it talks about him.

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LTS_Guitarian wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Maybe we'll have a better idea once we've played DA2, but right now it's impossible to say for certain.


Let me know how it turns out.  I'll be standing on the sidelines rooting for you.


Thanks.

If there's any news Morri related info in there, you can be sure we'll post it here and overanalyze it to death and beyond. B)

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Master Shiori wrote...

If there's any news Morri related info in there, you can be sure we'll post it here and overanalyze it to death and beyond. B)


of course we will. look at how much we have put into stuff about a child we know next to nothing about lol

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Ok, taking the topic down a different avenue for a second. Bear with me in my speculation:



Reading "The Calling" and am in the part with the Fade. Duncan and Maric have just rescued Kell. Kell is also called Kell ap Morgan. Morgan and Morrigan are kinda similar....he's in a hold with a woman and a baby in a back room. We don't learn the sex of the baby but we do learn they are no longer in Kell's life. Do you think this baby could be Morrigan (going only by the name speculation). That Flemeth got involved and stole her from the Avvari? Morrigan does have a fondness for the dog ;-) (ala Hafter).



I love speculating. Thanks for humoring me!

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ximena wrote...
And the catalyst? Didn't morrigan say that the ritual was only the start/catalyst? 

I have an inkling Morrigan knows/found out what Flemeth was planning. And now she's training her son to be able to withstand whatever happens when the time comes.


Probably/maybe? Its hard to tell whether the Change is something thats part of Morrigan's plan that she is actively causing or if the Change isn't some natural disaster/event thats coming regardless and Morrigan maybe just wants to position herself to take advantage of things in the aftermath.

Thats my big question- is Morrigan's plan the same as Flemeth's plan and is that plan the same thing as the Big Change?

And with respect to the OGB, if I recall from WH, Morrigan says that the Ritual was but a means to an end, a herald for what is to come. So it would seem that the OGB is a herald for what is to come. Is that the Change? The return of the Old Gods?

And an interesting tidbit is the description of the Mirror of Transformation in DA2 ( the thing that lets you change Hawke's face in the middle of the game):

The Mirror of Transformation is an insidious and twisted device. When  you alter your appearance with the device it doesn't just change who you are, but it changes who you were and will be in the future. It selects
from one of the infinite possible universes where you were brought up  with a different lineage and twists that thread of history into the  currently experienced reality. The ripples of this action affect your  family and other people's memory of your appearance as well.


Any connection to the Eluvian? Is the place beyond  the Fade, beyond the Eluvian some alternate universe? Will Morrigan, the Warden or Old God Baby be forever changed by going through the Eluvian?

Food for thought:wizard:

Master Shiori wrote..
If there's any news Morri related info in there, you can be sure we'll post it here and overanalyze it to death and beyond. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]


Damn straight! Honestly, the main reason I'm getting DA2 at this point is to see how it all affects Morrigan. I'll be pretty disappointed if at the end of DA2 we know nothing more about Flemeth or Morrigan's plans or the Change or anything of that sort.

lilmeezer wrote...

Ok, taking the topic down a different avenue for a second. Bear with me in my speculation:

Reading
"The Calling" and am in the part with the Fade. Duncan and Maric have  just rescued Kell. Kell is also called Kell ap Morgan. Morgan and  Morrigan are kinda similar....he's in a hold with a woman and a baby in a back room. We don't learn the sex of the baby but we do learn they are  no longer in Kell's life. Do you think this baby could be Morrigan  (going only by the name speculation). That Flemeth got involved and  stole her from the Avvari? Morrigan does have a fondness for the dog  ;-) (ala Hafter).

I love speculating. Thanks for humoring me!


Hmmmm....interesting!

I don't know- I guess the big question is whether or not Morrigan is actually the biological daughter of Flemeth or was she stolen from some Chasind or Avvar tribe? Or just who exactly is her father? Maric? A Dalish elf? A dragon??And if Flemeth is her biological mother, does that make Morrigan fully human if Flemeth isn't truly human as Morrigan said in Witch Hunt?

Questions, questions...=]

Modifié par Brockololly, 20 janvier 2011 - 04:20 .


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Just a quick post. Hahaha.



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Yet another entry for the accidents challenge over at the morrigroup at dA.



Link.

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Oh the poor Mabari.



Maybe it will have better luck finding stockings now.

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ximena wrote...

Just a quick post. Hahaha.

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Yet another entry for the accidents challenge over at the morrigroup at dA.

Link.


Hahaha!!!

That was awesome. :o

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Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is <3



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('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)

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ximena wrote...

Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is

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('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)



So beautiful...so peaceful....:wub:but once she wakes up, her shield, shell, sharp tongue, quick wits and her beautiful golden eyes are back on for the journey B).  Hehe page 22 coming soon then ;)

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ximena wrote...

Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is

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('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)


:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

Words fail to do justice to such beauty. <3

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ximena wrote...

Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is

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('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)


Awww, you think she'd take offense if I say she's cute? :wub:

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Not at all KoP, she'll just suggest you put ribbons in your hair and frolic around because of how cute you guys are.

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ximena wrote...

Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is

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('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)


Very nice!

#12324
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Jarlof Seoul wrote...

ximena wrote...

Teehee. Naked sleeping Morrigan is

Posted Image

('Tis a small preview from the next page XD)


Very nice!


You should see her in color now, here is the thread, pag 22

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Brockololly wrote...

Probably/maybe? Its hard to tell whether the Change is something thats part of Morrigan's plan that she is actively causing or if the Change isn't some natural disaster/event thats coming regardless and Morrigan maybe just wants to position herself to take advantage of things in the aftermath.

Thats my big question- is Morrigan's plan the same as Flemeth's plan and is that plan the same thing as the Big Change?

And with respect to the OGB, if I recall from WH, Morrigan says that the Ritual was but a means to an end, a herald for what is to come. So it would seem that the OGB is a herald for what is to come. Is that the Change? The return of the Old Gods?

And an interesting tidbit is the description of the Mirror of Transformation in DA2 ( the thing that lets you change Hawke's face in the middle of the game):

The Mirror of Transformation is an insidious and twisted device. When  you alter your appearance with the device it doesn't just change who you are, but it changes who you were and will be in the future. It selects
from one of the infinite possible universes where you were brought up  with a different lineage and twists that thread of history into the  currently experienced reality. The ripples of this action affect your  family and other people's memory of your appearance as well.


Any connection to the Eluvian? Is the place beyond  the Fade, beyond the Eluvian some alternate universe? Will Morrigan, the Warden or Old God Baby be forever changed by going through the Eluvian?

Food for thought:wizard:


Until WH I'd presumed that the ritual had been done in most or all of the previous blights and the offspring were female. Obviously that train of thought was wrong. I interpreted Morrigan's warning to mean that she was bringing about the change, but that's also probably wrong and she's just being an opportunist.

As to the description of the Mirror of Transformation, well I never expected to hear about the Copenhagen many worlds quantum theory in a fantasy game. :blink:

Modifié par gurp123, 22 janvier 2011 - 05:40 .