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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Ah see, you had to go there didn't you?Image IPB

lol, too good to pass up.


Barbarossa2010 wrote...
ME2 Situation Report (ME2 SPOILERS FOLLOW);
 
Have completed most loyalty missions and Firewalker missions are complete.  Especially liked the graphic rendering of the last firewalker mission.  Grander scales are better than just about anything I’ve seen yet.
 
Shepard is at full Paragon (helps a lot) and his player has finally got the hang of interrupt.
 
Finished Samara’s mission and…wow, talking about walking a minefield with Morinth.  That’s one evil beeotch, genetic defects aside, she had to go down.   I didn’t know what to expect with her and was looking forward to it.  Had to go a bit Renegade, but in the end, it was an easy choice, I chose Samara.  I really felt empathy for her and her character is so regal and upstanding.   

Yeah, you'd have to be a pretty ruthless Shepard to turn on her in that scene, interesting mission overall though - wasn't impressed with shepard's dancing tho :)
 

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Yes on Tali, just finished last night.  It was awesome.  I was looking forward to seeing the Migrant Fleet, and I was not disappointed.  I admit it, I’m a Quarian fan.  They’re emotional people balanced by technical wizardry.  They improvise, adapt and overcome.  You really wonder what they look like under those suits. Very poignant excerpts throughout the mission though; Tali’s voice cracking at seeing her father was moving.  The best VA I’ve run into thus far imo.  Perhaps the most I’ve been moved in ME.  Retaking the lab was great; enjoyed the advancing Geth.  They were very aggressive, very challenging.

The trial was cool and Shepard set Tali up as the hero of the universe.  He didn’t expose her father and she is truly Tali Zorah vas Normandy now.  Tried to convince the Admiralty to forego war on the Geth.  Don’t think they were listening.
 

Yep, its one of my favourite parts of the game, not to mention the fleet itself being alluded to regulary in the first game, its certainly gratifying to finally get to investigate the place. Shepard has some pretty good lines during the trial if he speaks up on Tali's behalf - as you say, strong emotions throughout, brilliant overall setup and superbly executed.

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Regarding the admirals: I don’t know why, but two characters I liked in DA:O (and spared) came to mind during our discussions prior to leaving for the lab. Image IPB J J J J  Image IPBIt was a nice bone, oh and that statue at Hock’s had me chuckling while Shepard was huddled behind destructible cover fumbling around for his inferno ammo switch.  Actually forgot I was in a battle for a moment.

lol, now you know where she's hiding out Barbarossa, I tell you, DA2 will take place on board the migrant fleet.

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Bottom line: Tali’s mission, best yet.  I replayed it three times.
 
Hate planet scanning.  Pretty much want to slice my carotid open.
 
Prefer the shuttle to the Mako.  There IS a merciful Maker up there somewhere.

I still can't decide which i hate more between planet scanning or the mako - would it have been so much trouble to actually come up with an enjoyable, non-tedious minigame of sorts to acquire the resources. ME2 falls down a bit here since you have to sit for periods searching out the "rich" planets, hit a few of those and you're sorted for a while at least.

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Really enjoyed smacking Zaeed.  Thought Jacob’s father was a monstrous coward, but handed him over to the Alliance anyway.

Yeah, that was another interesting little diversion - the guy had his own harem didn't he, I think I left him on the planet along with the crazed inhabitants :)


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I really liked the space graphics at the Collector Ship and the Migrant Fleet.  Don’t know why that caught my eye, but I thought the rendering was much more realistic and it drew me in.  There was texture and richness in it.  A welcome relief from sterile clarity.  That’s probably a weird point, but I did feel like I was really in a deep, dark part of the galaxy in those two scenes. 
 
Still have some things to do (IFF, Activation, etc) before committing to the Omega 4 Relay.  I will probably be triple checking everything for a day or two.  I feel it’s about to get ugly pretty quick.

I can't remember exactly when it occurs, but something big will happen pretty soon and you'll want to react to it immediately or something bad will happen. Don't want to spoil anything for you... just don't leave it like I did.


And on morrigan, did Sacred Ashes morrigan have the feathers on her shoulder? I personally prefer the final game version myself.

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 25 avril 2010 - 02:26 .


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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

You know, the more I see the "Sacred Ashes" Morrigan, the more I like her.


Blasphemy! That's not the real Morrigan!

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

You know, the more I see the "Sacred Ashes" Morrigan, the more I like her.


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Terra_Ex wrote...
Yeah, you'd have to be a pretty ruthless Shepard to turn on her in that scene, interesting mission overall though - wasn't impressed with shepard's dancing tho :)
 

Oh come on! Shep is a dancing machine:P

Terra_Ex wrote...
I still can't decide which i hate more between planet scanning or the mako - would it have been so much trouble to actually come up with an enjoyable, non-tedious minigame of sorts to acquire the resources. ME2 falls down a bit here since you have to sit for periods searching out the "rich" planets, hit a few of those and you're sorted for a while at least.


I must be in the minority but I vastly preferred the Mako to planet scanning. At least on the PC, I have no idea how someone playing ME2 at Bioware could not have realized that planet scanning makes one want to blow their brains out. Its torture-even if you only go for the "rich" planets, it makes rune crafting in Awakening seem fun. The problem as I see it is that without the uncharted planets and the Mako, you lose the sense that you're out exploring a huge galaxy. The problems I had with the Mako were more to do with the crappy level designs for the uncharted worlds in ME1, not so much the vehicle itself. Get rid of the impossible to navigate terrain and cookie cutter compounds and that would have been fine for me. The planet scanning is just grinding- really, really boring (but unfortunately necessary) grinding.

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Still have some things to do (IFF, Activation, etc) before committing to the Omega 4 Relay.  I will probably be triple checking everything for a day or two.  I feel it’s about to get ugly pretty quick.


I'll just say not to dally about once you hit a certain point in the game...kind of a Redcliffe type scenario.. thats all I'll say:whistle:

Terra_Ex wrote...
And on morrigan, did Sacred Ashes morrigan have the feathers on her shoulder? I personally prefer the final game version myself.


I like the Sacred Ashes Morrigan's outfit- it makes more sense in the cold weather than her standard robes. I think the face for Sacred Ashes Morrigan is more in line with the model Victorria Johnson's face but its got just enough of that uncanny valley vibe that it just looks off, especially whenever those Blur CGI characters open or move their mouths. It just looks unnatural when they try to talk.
I don't mind the Sacred Ashes Morrigan, but I prefer the in game version, she looks a bit more exotic and hot in the game whereas in the Sacred Ashes trailer Morrigan looks a bit creepier and like a goth-witch or something.

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Brockololly wrote...
I must be in the minority but I vastly preferred the Mako to planet scanning. At least on the PC, I have no idea how someone playing ME2 at Bioware could not have realized that planet scanning makes one want to blow their brains out. Its torture-even if you only go for the "rich" planets, it makes rune crafting in Awakening seem fun. The problem as I see it is that without the uncharted planets and the Mako, you lose the sense that you're out exploring a huge galaxy. The problems I had with the Mako were more to do with the crappy level designs for the uncharted worlds in ME1, not so much the vehicle itself. Get rid of the impossible to navigate terrain and cookie cutter compounds and that would have been fine for me. The planet scanning is just grinding- really, really boring (but unfortunately necessary) grinding.

Well yeah, you hit something of an impass in ME1. You *want* to visit other planets, however you soon realise they are essentially identical and as you say have abhorent level designs. The Mako liked to get stuck on random bits of terrain while a nearby turret decimates it in about 2 shots, which quickly dissuades you from making non-essential forays onto said planets. Consequently, I ended up not reading half the planet descriptions as I just wanted to get the hellish Mako section out of the way asap. Sadly, the situation has merely taken on a new form in ME2; while E.D.I does have some interesting soundbites when probing Uranus, the rest of the time its an exercise in frustration.


Brockololly wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...
And on morrigan, did Sacred Ashes morrigan have the feathers on her shoulder? I personally prefer the final game version myself.


I like the Sacred Ashes Morrigan's outfit- it makes more sense in the cold weather than her standard robes. I think the face for Sacred Ashes Morrigan is more in line with the model Victorria Johnson's face but its got just enough of that uncanny valley vibe that it just looks off, especially whenever those Blur CGI characters open or move their mouths. It just looks unnatural when they try to talk.
I don't mind the Sacred Ashes Morrigan, but I prefer the in game version, she looks a bit more exotic and hot in the game whereas in the Sacred Ashes trailer Morrigan looks a bit creepier and like a goth-witch or something.


Yeah,  I like the outfit, am a bit miffed about the skull, but the face as you say is a bit off, which I find isn't that uncommon among CGI. Ultimately, whatever appearance BW decided upon for the final game defines "Morrigan", personally I vastly prefer her vanilla in-game face.

We need some "real" Morri pictures on this page, lest we forget her beauty.

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Terra_Ex wrote...
We need some "real" Morri pictures on this page, lest we forget her beauty.


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just decided to pop in for a random pic post



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For anyone interested, I am uploading the missing scenes to xfire.

The sound is terrible... sorry about that. You just have to turn the volume up a bit:pinched::blush:

This is the missing cutscene that is supposed to trigger if you take Morrigan to Flemeth's hut.

http://www.xfire.com/video/28f1cc/

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Shade of Wolf wrote...

akrep77 wrote...

blademaster7
wrote...

I might upload some videos on youtube but I'm not
promising anything.

My current Warden is stuck in the fade so it
will take me a while.

What exactly do you guys want to see?

If
I can, I'll upload the 2 missing cutscenes from her side-quest and the
missing dialogue/kiss from the final battle(I have another save there
but the kiss isn't in the mod yet). What else?


What? Is
there any MISSING cutscene and / or kiss scene before the final
battle? Damn it! I want to see them :( :( :(

Do you
have it on pc or console? Hard luck f it's console, you can come to the
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Nope, I have it on PC luckily :)


blademaster7 wrote...

For anyone interested, I am uploading the missing scenes to xfire.

The sound is terrible... sorry about that. You just have to turn the volume up a bit:pinched::blush:

This is the missing cutscene that is supposed to trigger if you take Morrigan to Flemeth's hut.

http://www.xfire.com/video/28f1cc/


Thank you Blademaster, you are the best :) Is there any additional missing "things" about Morrigan? You were talking about different kind of kissing scenes. What was that, exactly? I mean how we can trigger that "different" kind of kissings? What do we need?

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akrep77 wrote...

Thank you Blademaster, you are the best :) Is there any additional missing "things" about Morrigan? You were talking about different kind of kissing scenes. What was that, exactly? I mean how we can trigger that "different" kind of kissings? What do we need?


Sadly you cannot.

As far as we can tell there were 3 kiss scenes that were cut from the game:

1) the kiss scene in "miserable selfish bastard" conversation. This one has been restored by Terra and is available in her Morrigan dialogue fix.

2) kiss scene in dark ritual

3) kiss scene during farewell speech with your companions at Denerim's gates

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More Morrigan.

This is probably my favorite Morrigan art piece by far.

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Modifié par Master Shiori, 25 avril 2010 - 10:22 .


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Master Shiori wrote...

Sadly you cannot.

As far as we can tell there were 3 kiss scenes that were cut from the game:

1) the kiss scene in "miserable selfish bastard" conversation. This one has been restored by Terra and is available in her Morrigan dialogue fix.

2) kiss scene in dark ritual

3) kiss scene during farewell speech with your companions at Denerim's gates



So, for all of those missing kiss scenes, do we need Terra's mod?

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akrep77 wrote...

So, for all of those missing kiss scenes, do we need Terra's mod?


Tera's Mod will only restore the first kiss scene ("miserable selfish bastard")

Charsen is working on restoring the kiss scene at the gates.

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Here's the next cutscene.
http://www.xfire.com/video/28f5b2/

I let Flemeth live and told Morrigan about it. I will upload another one with the alternative(Flemeth dead). But first, I need to kill her with my lv11 PC. No easy task, so you guys have to wait a bit until I level up.

The sound is terrible once again... sorry... crappy hardware :(

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Terra_Ex wrote...
We need some "real" Morri pictures on this page, lest we forget her beauty.


Coming right up!

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The last one...Image IPB


lol, loving the first one with Alistair and the voodoo doll :P The last one is hauntingly reminiscient of the endgame, thus I shall stifle my tears and say no more :)


blademaster7 wrote...

Here's the next cutscene.
http://www.xfire.com/video/28f5b2/

I
let Flemeth live and told Morrigan about it. I will upload another one
with the alternative(Flemeth dead). But first, I need to kill her with
my lv11 PC. No easy task, so you guys have to wait a bit until I level
up.

The sound is terrible once again... sorry... crappy hardware [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

lol
- console commands:

runscript killallhostiles

Its an absolute
lifesaver when u need to test this stuff. Thanks for uploading those
vids blademaster, we should probably get them uploading on youtube as
well.

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blademaster7 wrote...

Here's the next cutscene.

I let Flemeth live and told Morrigan about it. I will upload another one with the alternative(Flemeth dead). But first, I need to kill her with my lv11 PC. No easy task, so you guys have to wait a bit until I level up.

The sound is terrible once again... sorry... crappy hardware :(


Fixed the link for you.

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blademaster7 wrote...

Here's the next cutscene.
http://www.xfire.com/video/28f5b2/

I let Flemeth live and told Morrigan about it. I will upload another one with the alternative(Flemeth dead). But first, I need to kill her with my lv11 PC. No easy task, so you guys have to wait a bit until I level up.

The sound is terrible once again... sorry... crappy hardware :(


Thank you again for this one Blademaster7 :)

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It's a quiet day in the Morrigan thread...
An optional "equal love" compatibility patch is now available for female wardens who want to romance Morrigan and experience the restored/fixed content. I haven't tested it much, so if anyone else feels like confirming it works, feel free :)


Actually, that reminds me - anyone have a save file (with active morrigan romance) in or just before Arl Eamon's estate?

Modifié par Terra_Ex, 25 avril 2010 - 03:37 .


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Terra_Ex wrote...

It's a quiet day in the Morrigan thread...


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blademaster7 wrote...

Here's the next cutscene.
http://www.xfire.com/video/28f5b2/

I let Flemeth live and told Morrigan about it. I will upload another one with the alternative(Flemeth dead). But first, I need to kill her with my lv11 PC. No easy task, so you guys have to wait a bit until I level up.

The sound is terrible once again... sorry... crappy hardware :(

Our PCs are twins.  :lol:

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Terra_Ex wrote...

It's a quiet day in the Morrigan thread...
An optional "equal love" compatibility patch is now available for female wardens who want to romance Morrigan and experience the restored/fixed content. I haven't tested it much, so if anyone else feels like confirming it works, feel free :)


Actually, that reminds me - anyone have a save file (with active morrigan romance) in or just before Arl Eamon's estate?


I might, but you'll need to be a bit more specific.

Do you mean before going to Denerim for the Landsmeet, before attending the Landsmeet itself or before the dark ritual in Redcliffe?

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Before the landmeet iirc, preferably a save right before you first enter Arl Eamons estate - the part where Morrigan's dialog starts reverting to "What comes my friend." Anything where I can talk to the party members inside the estate is fine.

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Sadly, I seem to be lacking the save from that point.

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Terra_Ex wrote...

Before the landmeet iirc, preferably a save right before you first enter Arl Eamons estate - the part where Morrigan's dialog starts reverting to "What comes my friend." Anything where I can talk to the party members inside the estate is fine.

I probably do.  Let me take a look.

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Terra_Ex wrote...

Before the landmeet iirc, preferably a save right before you first enter Arl Eamons estate - the part where Morrigan's dialog starts reverting to "What comes my friend." Anything where I can talk to the party members inside the estate is fine.

I'll send this to you via PM link shortly.