Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 08 mai 2011 - 05:17 .
Lord_Anthonior wrote...
After several comments before about Dragon age 2 and the Origin's characters in the game and changes in their looks, as well as a due consideration when DA3 comes out hoping that Morrigan will be back and her appearence...I found this image:
by: HalUet
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morrigan dressed like that in DA3, from her armor to her hair, I do hope that her face morph doesn't change much if not at all but seeing her stepping out from the Eluvian because her time (and the Warden's hopefully) have arrived to face destiny in that outfit doesn't seems like a bad idea.
Master Shiori wrote...
Makes me sad that LA and Bioware jumped so far into the future with SW:TOR that you have no chance of seeing any of the KOTOR characters except for droids.
Lord_Anthonior wrote...
After several comments before about Dragon age 2 and the Origin's characters in the game and changes in their looks, as well as a due consideration when DA3 comes out hoping that Morrigan will be back and her appearence...I found this image:
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Tobe honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morrigan dressed like that in DA3, from her armor to her hair, I do hope that her face morph doesn't change much if not at all but seeing her stepping out from the Eluvian because her time (and the Warden's hopefully) have arrived to face destiny in that outfit doesn't seems like a bad idea. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]
Modifié par Brockololly, 08 mai 2011 - 06:52 .
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
@ the Morrigan vs Flemeth art. It's really neat, and I wouldn't mind a change in her outfit. Just her face. I think I am literally allergic to Morrigan face mods. I always end up having this weird disgusted facial expression.
And the pic seems to make crows / ravens Morrigan's symbol (as ooposed to Flemeth's dragon)?
Eh, I've always felt Morrigan was like a cat personally
TheBlackBaron wrote..
It's probably a reference to her namesake - the goddess was supposed to be able to turn into a raven and fly around the battlefield or something (go go Wikipedia?).
Modifié par Brockololly, 08 mai 2011 - 10:00 .
Brockololly wrote...
TheBlackBaron wrote..
It's probably a reference to her namesake - the goddess was supposed to be able to turn into a raven and fly around the battlefield or something (go go Wikipedia?).
Yeah, the whole crow/raven thing with Morrigan is tied to the Irish goddess of the same name who was supposed to be the goddess of battle, strife and fertility. Coincidentally the Irish version is very much a shapeshifter, changing forms like a raven, wolf and old woman. I'd imagine its furthered by how Morrigan has the feather pauldron on her shoulder too.
But, as I recall, Gaider simply got Morrigan's name from a friend's D&D campaign or something of the sort, so supposedly there isn't any deeper meaning than its a nice sounding name.
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
@ the Morrigan vs Flemeth art. It's really neat, and I wouldn't mind a change in her outfit. Just her face. I think I am literally allergic to Morrigan face mods. I always end up having this weird disgusted facial expression.
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Zjarcal wrote...
I think an outfit change is almost a given (unless they really love her original robes).
Brockololly wrote...
Zjarcal wrote...
I think an outfit change is almost a given (unless they really love her original robes).
Its BioWare. They think people will get confused and shamble off into oncoming traffic if characters change their clothing at all. I'd bet those robes are superglued to Morrigan from now to the rest of time
Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 08 mai 2011 - 10:39 .
TheBlackBaron wrote...
Brockololly wrote...
Zjarcal wrote...
I think an outfit change is almost a given (unless they really love her original robes).
Its BioWare. They think people will get confused and shamble off into oncoming traffic if characters change their clothing at all. I'd bet those robes are superglued to Morrigan from now to the rest of time
But then how does the Warden get them off when it's time for...never mind. :innocent:
Brockololly wrote...
Its BioWare. They think people will get confused and shamble off into oncoming traffic if characters change their clothing at all. I'd bet those robes are superglued to Morrigan from now to the rest of time;)
Zjarcal wrote...
But they still changed Flemeth's outfit for DA2 (although one could argue her rags weren't really iconic). Still, part of me really thinks Morri will get an outfit change.
Mr Plow wrote...
Lord_Anthonior wrote...
After several comments before about Dragon age 2 and the Origin's characters in the game and changes in their looks, as well as a due consideration when DA3 comes out hoping that Morrigan will be back and her appearence...I found this image:
by: HalUet
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morrigan dressed like that in DA3, from her armor to her hair, I do hope that her face morph doesn't change much if not at all but seeing her stepping out from the Eluvian because her time (and the Warden's hopefully) have arrived to face destiny in that outfit doesn't seems like a bad idea.
that is a smart outfit for Morri. Don't mind if they change her outfit somewhat - though purple and black is very much her colours.
They managed to make Leliana look even better in DA 2 so here's hoping...
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Lord_Anthonior wrote...
After several comments before about Dragon age 2 and the Origin's characters in the game and changes in their looks, as well as a due consideration when DA3 comes out hoping that Morrigan will be back and her appearence...I found this image:
by: HalUet
To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Morrigan dressed like that in DA3, from her armor to her hair, I do hope that her face morph doesn't change much if not at all but seeing her stepping out from the Eluvian because her time (and the Warden's hopefully) have arrived to face destiny in that outfit doesn't seems like a bad idea.
Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 10 mai 2011 - 03:49 .
Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 mai 2011 - 02:32 .
You're dead to me UndeadKnight of Phoenix. WHICH IS NOW YOUR NAME!KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I actually dislike the side boob. When I first saw Morrigan in the trailer and the way she was dressed, I was like "great, another one of those female characters who have no personality and have to compensate by showing skin. I've had enough of that bs".
Fortunately, I was 174175017% wrong.
But I still dress her up in the Sacred Ashes robe mod.
Brockololly wrote...
Yeah...although I think one of the characters is supposed to be a descendent of Revan and Bastila, considering Lucasarts canonized Revan as male. And I think they're coming out with a book regarding what happened to Revan. I don't know how I feel about that...
Brockololly wrote...
Yeah, the big thing would be not butchering her face. Sadly, so long as they're using the DA2 face morph system I have little to no confidence Morrigan will look anything close to how she looked in Origins. Especially considering how badly they mangled the likes of Alistair, Teagan and Zevran. Leliana looked ok, but it still had all the problems of the DA2 facemorph system with the overly rounded facial features and so forth.
Master Shiori wrote...
Most faces came out pretty close to how they looked in DA:O.
Cullen was a spot on match, Leliana looks better than before, Anders is almost the same. Zevran and Alistair could have used some more work. Teagan was also a very close match.
I think they could do a very good job of recreating Morrigan's face as long as they take their time to do it properly which, with her supposedly being important to overall story of DA, is quite likely.
If you're going to spend a lot of time looking at a character than you need to make sure everything is in order.
As for her clothes, I'd wagger she'll get a new robe, to simbolize her increased power and importance.
Master Shiori wrote...
Most faces came out pretty close to how they looked in DA:O.
Cullen was a spot on match, Leliana looks better than before, Anders is almost the same. Zevran and Alistair could have used some more work. Teagan was also a very close match.
I think they could do a very good job of recreating Morrigan's face as long as they take their time to do it properly which, with her supposedly being important to overall story of DA, is quite likely.
If you're going to spend a lot of time looking at a character than you need to make sure everything is in order.
As for her clothes, I'd wagger she'll get a new robe, to simbolize her increased power and importance.
Modifié par Brockololly, 12 mai 2011 - 05:48 .
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Even more Morrigan art!
[Snip]
If that's all the cooking you can do Morrigan, then we're screwed in mirror land.
Hot...
@ the Morrigan vs Flemeth art. It's really neat, and I wouldn't mind a change in her outfit. Just her face. I think I am literally allergic to Morrigan face mods. I always end up having this weird disgusted facial expression.
And the pic seems to make crows / ravens Morrigan's symbol (as ooposed to Flemeth's dragon)?
Eh, I've always felt Morrigan was like a cat personally
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That middle pic is awesome! 
(the one I left unsnipped)
Brockololly wrote...
Master Shiori wrote...
Most faces came out pretty close to how they looked in DA:O.
Cullen was a spot on match, Leliana looks better than before, Anders is almost the same. Zevran and Alistair could have used some more work. Teagan was also a very close match.
I think they could do a very good job of recreating Morrigan's face as long as they take their time to do it properly which, with her supposedly being important to overall story of DA, is quite likely.
If you're going to spend a lot of time looking at a character than you need to make sure everything is in order.
As for her clothes, I'd wagger she'll get a new robe, to simbolize her increased power and importance.
I'll give you that Cullen turned out pretty good/similar to DAO.
Leliana looks ok- my issues there stem from the fact that her features all have the same trademark similarities that every face hsa in the DA2 system, namely the rounded /bloated jaw, overly rounded nose and identical sized mouth/lips. She looks ok, but I don't know that I'd say its an improvement.
Teagan looked pretty terrible, as did Alistair, as did eyebrow-less Zevran. And Anders looked ok, but again, sort of the same deal as Leliana in that he gets stuck with the sameness issues of the DA2 facemorphs.
Maybe they could make Morrigan look decent, but they really need to overhaul the face morph system such that they can actually have emotive faces beyond arching one's eyebrows. DA2's faces (IMO) are just as stiff as Origins and (IMO) look worse in that they have the texture of rubber dolls or something. You look at stuff like LA Noire or Deus Ex: Human Revolution where they make reading faces part of the gameplay and you wonder why isn't BioWare trying to have that sort of thing one of their calling cards, especially when they have so much dialogue in their games? They need to seriously upgrade their engine as it just doesn't hold up at all compared to their competitors and the whole cinematic approach they opted for now doesn't do it any favors by putting everything under greater scrutiny.
Anyway, between Game of Thrones on HBO, reading Song of Ice and Fire and The Witcher 2 coming out next week, I'm getting my quality fantasy fix where DA2 came up short.
But, on the topic of Morrigan and bugs (what else?) I wonder if anyone got the codex entry on the Study of the Fifth Blight Volume 2 to fully trigger in DA2? I saw in this thread that supposedly its supposed to make mention of the Morrigan/Warden romance but supposedly it doesn't trigger due to the messed up import?
Modifié par Master Shiori, 13 mai 2011 - 08:34 .
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