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[ziagg]

Guys, I usually just lurk here, but... I really need assistance. I'm going mad.

I have DAO Ultimate Edition purchased through Steam. Romance with Morrigan, female Warden (Equal Love mod), had her on 100 approval, romance, and love flag, did the DR.

Imported a correct, in-love save from DAO to Witch Hunt and I'm getting the "...harder words I have never spoken" and the reference to the child when talking to dog at the beginning of WH. I have the ring and I got the DEO epilogue "sorrow and regret". I have TerraEx's mod installed (of course).

But I cannot go through the mirror with her, I don't even get to ask. I also don't get the option to say "I love her" when Ariane asks why I'm looking for Morrigan in Flemeth's hut, and also I don't get "She has taken my child". Which confuses me, as in the conversation with dog the OGB is recognized.

I've read that Equal love works for Witch Hunt. Is it that the mod isn't working (although people have confirmed that it works for them), or is there anything else I could have done wrong?

Sigh.....

Modifié par ziagg, 21 mai 2011 - 04:13 .

[Master Shiori]

ziagg wrote...

Guys, I usually just lurk here, but... I really need assistance. I'm going mad.

I have DAO Ultimate Edition purchased through Steam. Romance with Morrigan, female Warden (Equal Love mod), had her on 100 approval, romance, and love flag, did the DR.

Imported a correct, in-love save from DAO to Witch Hunt and I'm getting the "...harder words I have never spoken" and the reference to the child when talking to dog at the beginning of WH. I have the ring and I got the DEO epilogue "sorrow and regret". I have TerraEx's mod installed (of course).

But I cannot go through the mirror with her, I don't even get to ask. I also don't get the option to say "I love her" when Ariane asks why I'm looking for Morrigan in Flemeth's hut, and also I don't get "She has taken my child". Which confuses me, as in the conversation with dog the OGB is recognized.

I've read that Equal love works for Witch Hunt. Is it that the mod isn't working (although people have confirmed that it works for them), or is there anything else I could have done wrong?

Sigh.....

Hmm, can't really help you there. All my Morri ormancing Wardens were male and didn't have any problems with romance being recognized.

There's not much you can mess up in Witch Hunt when it comes to Morriga romance, so I doubt you made a mistake. Must be some problem with the mod.

[Retrogue]

Morrigan took my graphite stick pencil virginity and I loved every second of it. Now you can't pry my box of them out of my cold, dead hands.



Full size: Clicky.

Modifié par Retrogue, 22 mai 2011 - 06:09 .

[Esbatty]

Retrogue wrote...

Morrigan took my graphite stick pencil virginity and I loved every second of it. Now you can't pry my box of them out of my cold, dead hands.



Full size: Clicky.

Esbatty Approves ♥ +10

[Retrogue]

Esbatty wrote...
Esbatty Approves ♥ +10

Aww... Thanks!

Tweaked her lower back and side booby: Clicky!
I'm such a perv.

Modifié par Retrogue, 22 mai 2011 - 06:30 .

[Esbatty]

Retrogue wrote...

Esbatty wrote...
Esbatty Approves ♥ +10

Aww... Thanks!

Tweaked her lower back and side booby: Clicky!
I'm such a perv.

And you're not alone in the pervedness.

...

And I'll have you know it was my perviness that drew me to Dragon Age in the first place. I used to be an ME fan then... I found Nesoun's Morrigan commissions. Then I had to see what Dragon Age was about.

[Retrogue]

Esbatty wrote...
And you're not alone in the pervedness.

...

And I'll have you know it was my perviness that drew me to Dragon Age in the first place. I used to be an ME fan then... I found Nesoun's Morrigan commissions. Then I had to see what Dragon Age was about.

*Goes to look*

O.o Hello ******!

And I kind of prefer Leliana as a romance option for my second warden because he was a godless, cynical jerkoff (just like Morrigan)--And THAT'S why he and Leliana would have been so cute together! Too bad it's nigh impossible to romance your companions without coddling them and agreeing with everything they say. How vanilla and boring.

For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I should draw something about the Dark Ritual with those two. Ooooh, I am so devious. Muahahaha.

Modifié par Retrogue, 22 mai 2011 - 07:22 .

[ximena]

Retrogue wrote...



For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

[ziagg]

Master Shiori wrote...

ziagg wrote...

Guys, I usually just lurk here, but... I really need assistance. I'm going mad.

I have DAO Ultimate Edition purchased through Steam. Romance with Morrigan, female Warden (Equal Love mod), had her on 100 approval, romance, and love flag, did the DR.

Imported a correct, in-love save from DAO to Witch Hunt and I'm getting the "...harder words I have never spoken" and the reference to the child when talking to dog at the beginning of WH. I have the ring and I got the DEO epilogue "sorrow and regret". I have TerraEx's mod installed (of course).

But I cannot go through the mirror with her, I don't even get to ask. I also don't get the option to say "I love her" when Ariane asks why I'm looking for Morrigan in Flemeth's hut, and also I don't get "She has taken my child". Which confuses me, as in the conversation with dog the OGB is recognized.

I've read that Equal love works for Witch Hunt. Is it that the mod isn't working (although people have confirmed that it works for them), or is there anything else I could have done wrong?

Sigh.....

Hmm, can't really help you there. All my Morri ormancing Wardens were male and didn't have any problems with romance being recognized.

There's not much you can mess up in Witch Hunt when it comes to Morriga romance, so I doubt you made a mistake. Must be some problem with the mod.

That's what I thought... Oh Morrigan, why....

I don't suppose anyone could fix that somehow? :innocent:

[Retrogue]

ximena wrote...

Retrogue wrote...



For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

You can listen to Morrigan's and Alistair's bickering and see it as belligerent sexual tension. Or you can see it as something akin to sibling rivalry. The writers cleverly left it open to interpretation for a reason.

The H.M.S. MorriStair is a thorny subject among Alistair fangirls precisely because of the Dark Ritual. Female wardens romancing Alistair get the short end of the stick in this department--he either cheats on you or one of you dies. Way to hit you where it hurts... Male wardens don't have this predicement because they can do the honors with Morrigan. Thus, the possibility of the MorriStair ship is a non-issue for you guys. And you get your happy ending too with the Witch Hunt DLC! <3<3<3

Alistair has a secret crush on Morrigan.

Modifié par Retrogue, 22 mai 2011 - 09:28 .

[Lord_Anthonior]

ximena wrote...

Retrogue wrote...



For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

*cough cough*  

I'm glad that is not an issue for me to "share or the warden dies". it's great to do the honors by oneself and meaning something in the story of the game, to me the entire game is more about the adventures of Morrigan and my Warden, the rest are just added characters good friends, allies, enemies, rivals and other annoyances.

I played the game once again and taped it, it can very well look as if the quests are something that Morrigan and the Warden have to do together, for example even if my Warden thought first to surrender to Cauthrien (to keep the party Morrigan included safe -no injuries at all during the entire game-) it was fun to see that Morrigan stepped in to convince me to better kill her...and of course I did, as it was as well with the anvil not much to rival the maker himself but I do get the point and kept it. I just like how things are with Morrigan and the Warden as more of their quests-agendas or destinies were meant to be intertwined and I hope to see her again in DA3 wich they are already working on it.

As a PS3 player ,  I liked the "angry kiss" from Terra's restoration patch, saw it on youtube and it's great!! I think that with the restoration patch and knowing when Morrigan steps in during the conversations along the game it would look great as an entire video of the game.

[Retrogue]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

ximena wrote...

Retrogue wrote...



For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

*cough cough*  

I'm glad that is not an issue for me to "share or the warden dies". it's great to do the honors by oneself and meaning something in the story of the game, to me the entire game is more about the adventures of Morrigan and my Warden, the rest are just added characters good friends, allies, enemies, rivals and other annoyances.

I played the game once again and taped it, it can very well look as if the quests are something that Morrigan and the Warden have to do together, for example even if my Warden thought first to surrender to Cauthrien (to keep the party Morrigan included safe -no injuries at all during the entire game-) it was fun to see that Morrigan stepped in to convince me to better kill her...and of course I did, as it was as well with the anvil not much to rival the maker himself but I do get the point and kept it. I just like how things are with Morrigan and the Warden as more of their quests-agendas or destinies were meant to be intertwined and I hope to see her again in DA3 wich they are already working on it.

As a PS3 player ,  I liked the "angry kiss" from Terra's restoration patch, saw it on youtube and it's great!! I think that with the restoration patch and knowing when Morrigan steps in during the conversations along the game it would look great as an entire video of the game.

Then here's your girl.
/shameless self-plug
I'm pretty proud of how it turned out.

Modifié par Retrogue, 22 mai 2011 - 11:45 .

[Brockololly]

ziagg wrote...
I've read that Equal love works for Witch Hunt. Is it that the mod isn't working (although people have confirmed that it works for them), or is there anything else I could have done wrong?

Sigh.....

Can't say I've tried Equal Love, so I don't know what could be the issue. I would imagine its likely some sort of conflict with mods, but what exactly it is, I'm not sure. The requirement to go through the Eluvian is to have romanced Morrigan in DAO, but maybe something is getting messed up along the way? Not very helpful, I know...

Retrogue wrote...

Morrigan took my graphite stick pencil
virginity and I loved every second of it. Now you can't pry my box of
them out of my cold, dead hands.

*snip*
Full size: Clicky.

Very nicely done! I like the yellow with the eyes, nice touch!

ximena wrote...
I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

Yeah....*cough* *COUGH** COUGH** COUGHHHHHH** ***CCCCCOOOOOOOUUUUUGGGGHHHHH****

*grabs tar and feathers*

Retrogue wrote...
You can listen to Morrigan's and Alistair's bickering and see it as belligerent sexual tension. Or you can see it as something akin to sibling rivalry. The writers cleverly left it open to interpretation for a reason.

I don't know about that...at times Alistair genuinely seems to hate and despise Morrigan- like gleefuly letting Flemeth get away despite the possibility that could kill Morrigan. And I truly, truly believe Morrigan might find pleasure in tormenting Alistair, but she tolerates his presence only because his stupidity/block headed-ness makes him an easy target for abuse.

I can see the sort of sibling rivalry type verbal sparring more than I could see it as genuine sexual tension. I think they'd rather have nothing to do with each other given the opportunity, especially in Morrigan's case.

[Lord_Anthonior]

Brockololly wrote...

ximena wrote...
I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

Yeah....*cough* *COUGH** COUGH** COUGHHHHHH** ***CCCCCOOOOOOOUUUUUGGGGHHHHH****

*grabs tar and feathers*

I don't know about that...at times Alistair genuinely seems to hate and despise Morrigan- like gleefuly letting Flemeth get away despite the possibility that could kill Morrigan. And I truly, truly believe Morrigan might find pleasure in tormenting Alistair, but she tolerates his presence only because his stupidity/block headed-ness makes him an easy target for abuse.

I can see the sort of sibling rivalry type verbal sparring more than I could see it as genuine sexual tension. I think they'd rather have nothing to do with each other given the opportunity, especially in Morrigan's case.

Then again...*cough cough*

I guess alistair will always hate Morrigan because he knows how clever and cunning she is, even far more than him, that's why he also takes pleasure when asking her some stupid trivia (I don't remember the trivia since it was back when I started playing the game just released and from then on I keep alistair at camp) and about Flemeth and her nose.

The way I see it, they will always hate each other because she is an apostate and in the case of the Warden she can have more influence than any other character (of course, depending obviously of each player's playthrough), she is the only way for the Warden to survive, she is not weak regarding others and knows there's a middle ground between right and wrong, also, that she respects leadership and strength things alistair himself knows he doesn't have and doesn't want to, for he is all right in follow others than lead.

As for Morri, well...alistair is or was a no-yet-vowed-templar who believes in Andraste, right above all else, trust to the point of naive and spotless decisions and reputations above questionable means or ends.  I think they are way apart for even sexual tension or sibling rivalry but they tolerate each other and barely just for the Warden.

Even the dog has earn more respect from Morrigan than alistair and I agree with Brock, if it wasn't for the quest and the present situations they'd rather have nothing to do with each other or even to the point that IF alistair were a templar, Morrigan would've get to the point of killing him as any other templar who has hunt her and Flemeth.

[ximena]

Brockololly wrote...

ximena wrote...
I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

Yeah....*cough* *COUGH** COUGH** COUGHHHHHH** ***CCCCCOOOOOOOUUUUUGGGGHHHHH****

*grabs tar and feathers*

Retrogue wrote...
You can listen to Morrigan's and Alistair's bickering and see it as belligerent sexual tension. Or you can see it as something akin to sibling rivalry. The writers cleverly left it open to interpretation for a reason.

I don't know about that...at times Alistair genuinely seems to hate and despise Morrigan- like gleefuly letting Flemeth get away despite the possibility that could kill Morrigan. And I truly, truly believe Morrigan might find pleasure in tormenting Alistair, but she tolerates his presence only because his stupidity/block headed-ness makes him an easy target for abuse.

I can see the sort of sibling rivalry type verbal sparring more than I could see it as genuine sexual tension. I think they'd rather have nothing to do with each other given the opportunity, especially in Morrigan's case.

Nicely said, Brock! You couldn't have put it better! I don't really see the sexual tension in it even during my plays as female warden. I would have believed it a bit if Morrigan was advancing on him and hinting things in their banters.

Retrogue, the key word in what you said is "see it as". I don't know. Most of the residents here and my followers at dA who actively follow my comic see it the other way - which is more of sibling rivalry.

From the TVtropes link...

Despite the conflict, there is an attraction. This is obvious to everyone around except the couple. Confront them with the obvious, they'll deny deny deny. Sometimes they will progress to admitting their friendship but insist they are Just Friends.

Perhaps there might have been a small possibility because we did not see every event unfold on us and the characters probably had more conversations if this were a novel or a show, but as far as I can see it, it never progressed that far in such a way that other characters were very much aware of the attraction. The way I see saw it, Alistair was carried enough vitriol against Morrigan and Morrigan was happy enough to snark at him because it's fun. 

On your point about male wardens not having an issue with it, it's not really the truth since there will be players who would have issue with it. If Edric, my male warden, would have sniffed out some kind of Belligerent Sexual Tension situation between the two, he would have an issue with it while the romance is going on. True that the male warden wouldn't worry about Morrigan sleeping with Alistair because he could do it himself; however, it does not discount the fact that the attraction is there in an occassion that the attraction between Morri and Alistair is indeed present. This would be something that a couple of male wardens would be uncomfortable with. (And they would soon get their ass whipped because they're acting akin to a jealous husband, and they would probably get a lengthy snarky rant from Morrigan about being claimed or whatever.) XD

Well that is how I see it.

I am not, however, discouraging you to support the MorriStair ship because that is your choice. But I'm just saying that most members in this thread would really tar and feather you. Including myself. XD So yeah.... I think the safest place to ship MorriStair would be the kinkmeme. >_>

[Esbatty]

No Morristair, ever.

...

'Tis unnatural. Although I do ascribe to Maria13's take on Morrigan's finding pleasure in the idea that via the act of taking Alistair's virginity during the Dark Ritual would basically be ruining sex for him for the future. That I can see Morrigan doing for the lulz.

[ximena]

PureMethodActor wrote...

ximena wrote...

Retrogue wrote...



For this very reason, I think Morrigan and Alistair would also make a brilliant slap-slap-kiss pairing. Don't tell my fellow Alistair fangirls I said that though. They'd tar and feather me.

I'm afraid some people woulda also tar and feather you in here at the sight of MorriStair too.

*cough*

Ehh... I'm very open on this stuff, and I can see all sides of people's viewpoints when it comes to shipping (I can even see Lelistair ships in some cases), so there are some instances where I could see where Morrigan/Alistair would POSSIBLY work. So I won't be one of the ones tarring-and-feathering you, Retrogue . When I have time, I'll check out the link you posted.

You guys would have to forgive me for my iffyness regarding MorriStair. Last time I accidentally ran by one, I had to do some major mind bleaching and as far as I remember, I moaned a lot about it with Esbatty and Anthonoir. I would love not to experience that again.Perhaps it's just Edric's possessive side overarching towards me. XD

If you want to post it in the thread, Retrogue, go ahead. But just link it and post a good warning. >_>

Thank you.

[Retrogue]

Whoa, you guys are tre possessive! I only ship that pair when my warden isn't trying to romance one or the other. Actually, in my fic "Maleficar", my warden kind of assumes the role of the girl with whom Alistair is constantly arguing. Morrigan becomes a secondary albeit pivotal character who occasionally interjects.

If there are any high tensions in this thread then Morrigan art will make it all better!


Full size: http://retrogue.devi...rites/#/d3eadqw
by Igreniya

I love how it's kind of whimsical, yet the look on her face is so intense.

[Jarlof Seoul]

Retrogue wrote...

Whoa, you guys are tre possessive! I only ship that pair when my warden isn't trying to romance one or the other. Actually, in my fic "Maleficar", my warden kind of assumes the role of the girl with whom Alistair is constantly arguing. Morrigan becomes a secondary albeit pivotal character who occasionally interjects.

If there are any high tensions in this thread then Morrigan art will make it all better!


Full size: http://retrogue.devi...rites/#/d3eadqw
by Igreniya

I love how it's kind of whimsical, yet the look on her face is so intense.

nice. has a hint of Anime style

[Lord_Anthonior]

Trying not to get any high tensions about the topic, I'm just gonna say that no, "no Morristair, Ever!" as Esbatty said.  I've seen in other threads there have even be ":sick:" when talking about Lelistair even when that would make so much more sense than with Morrigan.

I guess many of us here in this thread and here in BSN ships and are quite possessive of their favorite characters and that disagreements are prone to appear when mixing them up with the other characters, I guess Morrigan is meant to be only for the Warden because she doesn't really get along with any other party members that's why It's impossible to picture her with anyone else and why we can be quite possessive about Morrigan because she only cares about the Warden and not the rest, it's kinda reciprocal hehehe.

I also believe that neither for the Ritual in a fanfic (but that's just my POV), IF it would have come to that then I suppose and bet that Morrigan would have rather choose Riordan an Orlesian veteran Warden likely to know more about the matter than alistair. I think that the only and best option is to be in romance with her so she wouldn't have to seek any other source, but of course, that's not a rule when it comes to a game and the different paths for the players.

Still, to each to their own paths in playing a game so while I disagree with the Morristair shipping. I do like the art very much haha

Retrogue wrote...


Full size: http://retrogue.devi...rites/#/d3eadqw
by Igreniya

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

I don’t remember a discussion about Morrigan’s nightmare in the Fade so I’ll ask about it here.

Her nightmare strikes me as the oddest out of them all.

She knows that it’s the Fade, she knows that staying in there would eventually kill her, right?

What was she doing there the whole time? Was Morrigan standing around and just….waiting……to be……rescued?

Is it because the spirit looks like her mother? Then does this actually show that Morrigan is vulnerable and/or immature?

Or maybe she was just being manipulative and waited for the Warden to do the dirty work.

What I think of the nightmares for Morrigan and the rest of the characters is that that they need to be rescued, they need to kill the demons in those nightmares because they are like the "key holders" that keep the characters inside that nightmare while being prodded and serving them a fake image of their wishes, memories, regrets and fears, wich in the case of Morrigan...she has none, she doesn't even fear Flemeth that much to subdue to the spirit's copy not even after the slap.

I guess Morrigan is waiting for the Warden to free her from the spirit's prodding and once killing the spirit it will cut out the hounding over her mind and make her vanish from her designated "fade prison cell".

Modifié par Lord_Anthonior, 24 mai 2011 - 12:02 .

[GSSAGE7]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

I don’t remember a discussion about Morrigan’s nightmare in the Fade so I’ll ask about it here.

Her nightmare strikes me as the oddest out of them all.

She knows that it’s the Fade, she knows that staying in there would eventually kill her, right?

What was she doing there the whole time? Was Morrigan standing around and just….waiting……to be……rescued?

Is it because the spirit looks like her mother? Then does this actually show that Morrigan is vulnerable and/or immature?

Or maybe she was just being manipulative and waited for the Warden to do the dirty work.

What I think of the nightmares for Morrigan and the rest of the characters is that that they need to be rescued, they need to kill the demons in those nightmares because they are like the "key holders" that keep the characters inside that nightmare while being prodded and serving them a fake image of their wishes, memories, regrets and fears, wich in the case of Morrigan...she has none, she doesn't even fear Flemeth that much to subdue to the spirit's copy not even after the slap.

I guess Morrigan is waiting for the Warden to free her from the spirit's prodding and once killing the spirit it will cut out the hounding over her mind and make her vanish from her designated "fade prison cell".

There really is no reason, gameplay aside, for why Morrigan couldn't free herself just like the Warden did, if we assume that the Warden fighting off Duncan and those other two guys is just like the other nightmares. I do rather like the idea about her waiting for the Warden to do the dirty work.

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 24 mai 2011 - 12:09 .