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[Master Shiori]

elemme wrote...

quick question, I am just staying friendly with Morrigan and have killed flemeth and had one dialog beyond the flaming knives, the one about what will you do now that flemeth is dead.

Now, there does not seem to be anyway to start a romance. Will something else come up or would I need to give her the mirror?

If you didn't romance her by the time you get the quest to kill Flemeth and are friendly with Morrigan, she will give you a speech about friendship and ask if you think there can be anything more between you and her.

In order to get that dialogue you need to give her Flemeth's true grimoire and not be in a romance with Leliana or Zevran.

[Master Shiori]

Terra_Ex wrote...

Yeah, that spider fight can be a pain even with a full party, you've got the broodmother coming up, let us know how that goes Are you using modded weapons/armor btw - those are usually notoriously unbalanced, though the do look pretty.

There are some weapon and armor mods that are really nice.

I'm currently using the following ones from DAnexus:

Warden runic armor and weapons
Devout armor for Leliana
Ivory Tower set and Nightfall Bloom set for Arcane Warrior
Verdant Sonata and Wings of Velvet for Mages
Legacy of Sundown for Rogues

Not all of them are balanced but after having finished the game 4 times without any mods I don't really care for the challenge at this point. :innocent:

Modifié par Master Shiori, 29 avril 2010 - 10:45 .

[Addai]

blademaster7 wrote...

I know what you mean. It gets even more depressing later when you finish the game and you realize she left... must be the coronation music.

It really changes the whole tone of the game for me.  If I had started out playing a male character, I might not have re-played as much as I have.  My mCousland did tell Morrigan that he would find her, but I'm not sure whether he will or not.  Besides the fact that he's heartbroken, he's also too much of a gentleman not to take "no" for an answer.  I think he will make efforts to find her, though, if only to ensure that she is safe.

My husband tells me that I did it all wrong and should have had him marry Anora and keep Leliana on the side.  Which to my ears is like saying "marry the hurlock and sleep with the creepy zealot bard lady."  Not much more promising an option.    I think male players got screwed.  And then the female NPCs in Awakening are not much better in terms of romanceability.

As far as the actual DR scene, I can understand Morrigan's coolness.  She is trying to keep it together because she's got her eyes on her duty.  What I am disappointed with is the flatness of the dialogue choices the PC is given.  I didn't try the route where you tell her no and she suggests Alistair, though.  I might go back and see what that is like.  As it is, from the PC side it didn't feel much different than a female PC agreeing or not agreeing to the ritual.  There was no option for Aedan to say "you are tearing me apart."

[Hammer_Of_God]

Yehp - male PC's wind up being castrated in that part <_<

Cant recall who exactly said it earlier, but the DR's the part where playing a male PC, you wind up feeling soooo seriously out of character & impotent.

Modifié par Hammer_Of_God, 29 avril 2010 - 03:19 .

[Master Shiori]

Addai67 wrote...

 I didn't try the route where you tell her no and she suggests Alistair, though.  I might go back and see what that is like.

If you initialy refuse to her offer she will suggest you talk to Alistair.

You can then tell her "Do you truly believe I would send you to another man?", to which Morrigan replies that she cares for you and would like you to be the father of her child regardless of alternatives.

[blademaster7]

Hammer_Of_God wrote...

Cant recall who exactly said it earlier, but the DR's the part where playing a male PC, you wind up feeling soooo seriously out of character & impotent.

That would be barbarossa. The majority of us agree with him, though. Well, at least I do.

[Addai]

Hammer_Of_God wrote...

Yehp - male PC's wind up being castrated in that part <_<

Cant recall who exactly said it earlier, but the DR's the part where playing a male PC, you wind up feeling soooo seriously out of character & impotent.

Pretty much.

It does help me understand Alistair's end game and the various ways that he can end up.  I can't really play a PC who is a grim, duty-driven military type, so my male PC is similar to Alistair in that he'd best like to be what his father taught him to be- a noble who is actually good and useful to the people he rules, and a family man (at least with his lover by his side).  As it is, with his heart ripped out and the darkspawn taint looming over him, I figure he is picturing a pretty empty life with only his Warden duty left to him, and the only thought keeping him on his feet (besides ending the Blight) is that as far as he knows he is the only Cousland left alive.  It's no wonder that Alistair actually seems happy if he can take the final blow on behalf of his LI or former LI.

But that's another thread!

Modifié par Addai67, 29 avril 2010 - 03:54 .

[Addai]

Master Shiori wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

 I didn't try the route where you tell her no and she suggests Alistair, though.  I might go back and see what that is like.

If you initialy refuse to her offer she will suggest you talk to Alistair.

You can then tell her "Do you truly believe I would send you to another man?", to which Morrigan replies that she cares for you and would like you to be the father of her child regardless of alternatives.

Well that's.... nice, I guess.  She wants him to be the father, but never to see her or the child again, and won't explain why.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

 I didn't try the route where you tell her no and she suggests Alistair, though.  I might go back and see what that is like.

If you initialy refuse to her offer she will suggest you talk to Alistair.

You can then tell her "Do you truly believe I would send you to another man?", to which Morrigan replies that she cares for you and would like you to be the father of her child regardless of alternatives.

Well that's.... nice, I guess.  She wants him to be the father, but never to see her or the child again, and won't explain why.

Coming from Morrigan, that does mean a lot.

It shouldn't matter to her at all who the father is, as long as she gets her God baby. But the fact she prefers her love to be the father (at least I personally believe she does) is telling.

[Brockololly]

Who here can even picture Morrigan as much of a mother? Would she be as harsh as Flemeth or what? If I recall, Morrigan even mentions her disdain for children in some dialogue in the game. I'm wondering if maybe the Old God Baby won't necessarily be a main plot point in DA2 necessarily, but rather the OGB is just a means to an end for whatever Morrigan's ultimate plans really are.

[Master Shiori]

Brockololly wrote...

Who here can even picture Morrigan as much of a mother? Would she be as harsh as Flemeth or what? If I recall, Morrigan even mentions her disdain for children in some dialogue in the game. I'm wondering if maybe the Old God Baby won't necessarily be a main plot point in DA2 necessarily, but rather the OGB is just a means to an end for whatever Morrigan's ultimate plans really are.

While it's true that Morigan was brought up without having ever having experienced the joy of family or a mother's love, that doesn't mean she is happy with how her childhood turned out.

She might respect Flemeth for teaching her magic and how to survive, but she is also envious when your character talks about growing up in a loving family and looks back longingly on her childhood dreams.

I honestly believe that she would be a lot less harsh a parent then Flemeth, but not neceserily a completely loving one either.

And no, the god baby will probably be an important part of plot for DA2 but will not really be the main focus of the game itself.

[blademaster7]

Best screenshot... EVA!!!



The bad news is that I'm now entering the most ridiculous battle imaginable... without any backup.

Still haven't decided what to do at the landsmeet.

[Master Shiori]

Nice one Blademaster.



Do you plan on fighting Ser Cauthlien or surrendering and waiting for rescue?

[blademaster7]

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one Blademaster.

Do you plan on fighting Ser Cauthlien or surrendering and waiting for rescue?

Both. I created a save before the battle. The rescue mission is too good not to play.

I managed to beat her btw. I didn't use cheesy tactics(eg. leaving the room). I walked into the room and killed everyone. The archers were annoying(scattershot always hits for some reason) but Cauthrien didn't even land a hit on me. Max Dex Rogues are uber....

[elemme]

blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one Blademaster.

Do you plan on fighting Ser Cauthlien or surrendering and waiting for rescue?

Both. I created a save before the battle. The rescue mission is too good not to play.

I managed to beat her btw. I didn't use cheesy tactics(eg. leaving the room). I walked into the room and killed everyone. The archers were annoying(scattershot always hits for some reason) but Cauthrien didn't even land a hit on me. Max Dex Rogues are uber....

Is there anyway to reason with Cauthrien,  I got her to say "we did some bad things and might have been wrong but I still have to kill you"

[Master Shiori]

elemme wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one Blademaster.

Do you plan on fighting Ser Cauthlien or surrendering and waiting for rescue?

Both. I created a save before the battle. The rescue mission is too good not to play.

I managed to beat her btw. I didn't use cheesy tactics(eg. leaving the room). I walked into the room and killed everyone. The archers were annoying(scattershot always hits for some reason) but Cauthrien didn't even land a hit on me. Max Dex Rogues are uber....

Is there anyway to reason with Cauthrien,  I got her to say "we did some bad things and might have been wrong but I still have to kill you"

When she tries to arrest you in Arl of Denerim's estate you have 2 options:

1) fight her and her guards
2) surrender and be taken to a prison from where you can escape on your own or wait for your companions to rescue you

The second time you run into her (provided you didn't kill her the first time) is at Landsmeet, where you can fight her or convince her to stand down.

[Shade of Wolf]

blademaster7 wrote...

Shade of Wolf wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

Not all of them are fixed... but yes, ejoslin fixed a couple of bugs regarding her views on a political marriage(Anora/Alistair) is she's hardened.

That's what I'm planning to do with my current PC(MHN solo). Marry Anora and keep Leliana as my mistress.

I killed Flemeth and the High Dragon btw(lv 17). Gaxkang is the only boss left. He raped me pretty badly. I need some spell resist gear before I try my luck again.

Lol I just cast mana clash on him (on nightmare btw) and then crushing prison and he died lol.

I'm soloing on nightmare with a Rogue. No mana clash for me.

I'll just have to buy equipment with spell resist and fight him again.

A rogue? Good luck lol.

[Shade of Wolf]

Master Shiori wrote...

One of the Bioware staff said that they're working on a new patch that should fix some of the bugs in Awakening, but they won't be able to fix all of them at once.

Still, it's a step in the right direction.

Do console users get patches?

[Shade of Wolf]

Master Shiori wrote...

elemme wrote...

blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Nice one Blademaster.

Do you plan on fighting Ser Cauthlien or surrendering and waiting for rescue?

Both. I created a save before the battle. The rescue mission is too good not to play.

I managed to beat her btw. I didn't use cheesy tactics(eg. leaving the room). I walked into the room and killed everyone. The archers were annoying(scattershot always hits for some reason) but Cauthrien didn't even land a hit on me. Max Dex Rogues are uber....

Is there anyway to reason with Cauthrien,  I got her to say "we did some bad things and might have been wrong but I still have to kill you"

When she tries to arrest you in Arl of Denerim's estate you have 2 options:

1) fight her and her guards
2) surrender and be taken to a prison from where you can escape on your own or wait for your companions to rescue you

The second time you run into her (provided you didn't kill her the first time) is at Landsmeet, where you can fight her or convince her to stand down.

I felt really guilty after killing Ser Cauthrien....did I mention that before in this thread? Anyway the sword isn't worth it so this playthrough (holding off the mirror) I'm gonna let her and Loghain live, and make Alistair marry Anora.
-Quick off-topic question: Who comes at the beginning of Awakening if Alistair and Anora marry??

[Master Shiori]

Shade of Wolf wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

One of the Bioware staff said that they're working on a new patch that should fix some of the bugs in Awakening, but they won't be able to fix all of them at once.

Still, it's a step in the right direction.

Do console users get patches?

Since it's an official Bioware patch I'd say it's for all platforms.

If Alistair and Anora marry you get Alistair to greet you in Awakening

[Master Shiori]

Hmm, here's a question for all you rogue players out there.



I'm thinking of making a duelist rogue who'll use a sword and a dagger.



I've only played as a dagger using assassin rogue until now so I'm wondering what is better for a duelist? Strength or cunning?



High strength would let me use any sword in the game, while cunning with lethality might actually give higher damage but would restrict me to using Asturian's Might or the Green Blade.

[blademaster7]

Master Shiori wrote...

Hmm, here's a question for all you rogue players out there.

I'm thinking of making a duelist rogue who'll use a sword and a dagger.

I've only played as a dagger using assassin rogue until now so I'm wondering what is better for a duelist? Strength or cunning?

High strength would let me use any sword in the game, while cunning with lethality might actually give higher damage but would restrict me to using Asturian's Might or the Green Blade.

Cunning is better if you're using 2 daggers.

I usually go witn Assassin/Bard for CUN Rogues and Duelist/Assassin for DEX Rogues. I never bother with strength.

But since you're planning on using a sword you might as well gor for a strength build. It will be a waste to get your strength all the way to 31 and then pick up lethality.

Sword/Dagger - Strength at least 31 -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning 16-- no lethality
Dagger/Dagger - Strength 20(for armor) -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning-- as much as you want.

[Master Shiori]

blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Hmm, here's a question for all you rogue players out there.

I'm thinking of making a duelist rogue who'll use a sword and a dagger.

I've only played as a dagger using assassin rogue until now so I'm wondering what is better for a duelist? Strength or cunning?

High strength would let me use any sword in the game, while cunning with lethality might actually give higher damage but would restrict me to using Asturian's Might or the Green Blade.

Cunning is better if you're using 2 daggers.

I usually go witn Assassin/Bard for CUN Rogues and Duelist/Assassin for DEX Rogues. I never bother with strength.

But since you're planning on using a sword you might as well gor for a strength build. It will be a waste to get your strength all the way to 31 and then pick up lethality.

Sword/Dagger - Strength at least 31 -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning 16-- no lethality
Dagger/Dagger - Strength 20(for armor) -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning-- as much as you want.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Barbarossa2010]

Shade of Wolf wrote...

Quick off-topic question: Who comes at the beginning of Awakening if Alistair and Anora marry??

Alistair

[revan11exile]

blademaster7 wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Hmm, here's a question for all you rogue players out there.

I'm thinking of making a duelist rogue who'll use a sword and a dagger.

I've only played as a dagger using assassin rogue until now so I'm wondering what is better for a duelist? Strength or cunning?

High strength would let me use any sword in the game, while cunning with lethality might actually give higher damage but would restrict me to using Asturian's Might or the Green Blade.

Cunning is better if you're using 2 daggers.

I usually go witn Assassin/Bard for CUN Rogues and Duelist/Assassin for DEX Rogues. I never bother with strength.

But since you're planning on using a sword you might as well gor for a strength build. It will be a waste to get your strength all the way to 31 and then pick up lethality.

Sword/Dagger - Strength at least 31 -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning 16-- no lethality
Dagger/Dagger - Strength 20(for armor) -- Dex at least 32 -- cunning-- as much as you want.

Say Blade what goes with the ranger is Bard,Assassin or Duelist because i am about the start a new character.