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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yup and she's going to be in Gears of War 3 too:
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Gears, Claudia playing as Sam, and gargantuan double barrel shotguns (take a look at the full sized photo).  Could life truly get any better?!!. Posted Image 


I thought that was some sort of euphemism for her...armor.:wizard:


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However, as good as it is to know about upcoming  projects, I'd REALLY like to see an interview of her talking about  Morrigan or the character development of her, or anything related to  Morrigan or Dragon Age. Does anyone know where I can find Claudia Black  interviews that have that?


I don't know that she ever did any interviews regarding Morrigan specifically. I know Kate Mulgrew did one where she talked about Flemeth and Morrigan a bit. I know Claudia did some interviews talking about Uncharted but I 've not seen one for DAO- the only DAO voice actor interview I recall is this one with Tim Curry and Mulgrew.

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Tim Curry was Howe? o_o

No wonder he was in a dungeon... but he never sang me a song about how I met his faithful handyman....

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Esbatty wrote...

Oh yeah I got all excited when they announced Claudia Black would play Sam in GoW3, its said she's gonna have alot of scenes with Dom. Which is good, poor guy. I didn't expect a shooter like Gears of War 2 to make me cry. I like the story direction they've taken with the series considering the comics and novels really expand the world of Gears of War.

...

But dammit, I want Morrigan in Dragon Age 3. I wonder if we could actually play AS Morrigan.


Yeah, I agree, Gears is easy to dismiss as just another shooter.  But, in truth, the story elements are surprisingly well developed and deeper than what a first glance might suggest.  I really like the polished gunplay and the MP, but the story of Sera, The COG, Delta and the Locust are also intriguing [not to mention a bit more interpersonal back story and character development than one might expect]. If you read the GOW Wiki, the plot elements as anotated in the character notes, seems to be moving to a whole new level.  The story of Dom, Maria and the introduction of Sam is one of those that promises to be a highlight.  Maria and Dom were sort of like the interpersonal anchor of the story, until well...you know.  We'll see where Sam fits in. Posted Image  CB voice acting her is a pretty good sign she might be important.

I like the way Epic has moved the franchise.  It started out as a pure shooter, but has gradually been moving toward deeper elements.  Horde 2.0 is a great example of that.  In my view, if you have the best TPS gunplay in the business, the world is pretty much open for the franchise.  I'd love to see a ME or Alpha Protocol-esque RPG emerge.  Cliffy B supposedly loves Mass Effect, calling it the RPG for guys like him, so I'll be interested to see if the future holds an experiment in that direction, and see what Epic can do in the genre.  Anyway...fun to speculate because I really love the franchise.  Hell, what with the hybridization bug going around, I'd almost bet it's a guarantee they'll try something RPG-ish.

On to Morrigan, if she does return to DA and her Warden is mysteriously absent or find out he was crushed by the plot hammer, well, needless to say from my view, I'll be less than excited.  However, as a playable character, there might be a modicum of interest there.  I'm just not that excited with the franchise anymore after DA2.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 28 juin 2011 - 12:12 .


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Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 28 juin 2011 - 12:11 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yup and she's going to be in Gears of War 3 too:
Posted Image



Gears, Claudia playing as Sam, and gargantuan double barrel shotguns (take a look at the full sized photo).  Could life truly get any better?!!. Posted Image 


I thought that was some sort of euphemism for her...armor.:wizard:


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bleetman wrote...

Hoods? Hoods.

*hooded Morri*

Hooooods.

Nice, 'twas a shame she never appeared hooded in-game.

I do actually have something relevant to ask over here, though: If Morrigan was impregnated by the Warden somewhere before the ritual, and the ritual itself was never allowed to take place, how does the dialogue during her Witch Hunt encounter change?

If Youtube videos could be shown, I would also appreciate that.

Thanks in advance.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Yeah, I agree, Gears is easy to dismiss as just another shooter.  But, in truth, the story elements are surprisingly well developed and deeper than what a first glance might suggest.  I really like the polished gunplay and the MP, but the story of Sera, The COG, Delta and the Locust are also intriguing [not to mention a bit more interpersonal back story and character development than one might expect]. If you read the GOW Wiki, the plot elements as anotated in the character notes, seems to be moving to a whole new level.  The story of Dom, Maria and the introduction of Sam is one of those that promises to be a highlight.  Maria and Dom were sort of like the interpersonal anchor of the story, until well...you know.  We'll see where Sam fits in. Posted Image  CB voice acting her is a pretty good sign she might be important.


Yeah...not having a 360, I've never gotten into Gears that much. I played the first on PC but then of course Epic decided to ditch the PC so there went that.

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Cliffy B supposedly loves Mass Effect, calling it the RPG for guys like him, so I'll be interested to see if the future holds an experiment in that direction, and see what Epic can do in the genre.  Anyway...fun to speculate because I really love the franchise.  Hell, what with the hybridization bug going around, I'd almost bet it's a guarantee they'll try something RPG-ish.

Not to entirely derail the thread, but I really don't consider ME much of an RPG anymore- its guns&dialogue. Its fine to have games like ME though and that sort of lighter action RPG but dammit it sucks to see BioWare forcing that cookie cutter action-RPG lite template on something like DA as well. And hell, if you've played The Witcher 2, while thats an action-y game gameplay wise, in terms of RPG choices and consequences it blows anything BioWare has ever done out of the water.

Thats not even mentioning how brilliant Deus Ex Human Revolution is, even in beta form. Just seems like while BioWare is intent of dumbing down their games, other devs are making them more complex and with less hand holding- like the freedom of choice and augmentations in Deus Ex or the genuinely branching and divergent content in The Witcher 2.

Barbarossa2010 wrote...
On to Morrigan, if she does return to DA and her Warden is mysteriously absent or find out he was crushed by the plot hammer, well, needless to say from my view, I'll be less than excited.  However, as a playable character, there might be a modicum of interest there.  I'm just not that excited with the franchise anymore after DA2.

Yeah...DA3 is going to need to show more than just an interesting story to get me interested at this point. The competition has stepped their game up and its about time BioWare tried to do the same.

If Morrigan shows up without the Warden I won't be thrilled no matter what. It would be BioWare essentially crapping on the Eluvian choice and anyone who romanced Morrigan one last time. Maybe a cameo or something would work...but hell, if they're still using the crappy DA2 facemorph system I don't even want to see Morrigan again. Just have her story over and done with so it can't be dragged through the mud any further.

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
I do actually have something relevant
to ask over here, though: If Morrigan was impregnated by the Warden
somewhere before the ritual, and the ritual itself was never allowed to
take place, how does the dialogue during her Witch Hunt encounter
change?

If Youtube videos could be shown, I would also appreciate that.

Thanks in advance.


I think thats basically the scenario that happened when WH was initially released and it had the bug where Morrigan didn't recognize the Dark Ritual- you could still go through the Eluvian but Morrigan gave the Warden a hard time about denying her the Ritual, but still acknowledged the Warden's son.

I'll try and find a youtube video...


Edit: I couldn't find a video right now but mostly its this line thats different as she doesn't mention how the normal child is a herald of things to come or how she needs to get more power to train the OGB. She just says the normal kid is healthy and safe:
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Modifié par Brockololly, 28 juin 2011 - 08:16 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Is there anything new in the whole Flemeth-Morrigan-OGB speculation kettle?


I personally am trying to stop caring. Seeing Bioware's decline in quality, subtelty and complexity of writing, I think it's likely that they'll end up butchering them.


Longtime lurker on the DA:O boards -- especially this thread, and you took the words right out of my mouth. Dragon Age 2 killed almost all the emotion/excitement DA:O brought me. And I'm cautiously/hopelessly looking forward to seeing Morrigan and co again.

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Hoodie Morrigan picspam:

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Brockololly wrote...

Hoodie Morrigan picspam:

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Ohmygod. I completely fangirled those pictures. Haha. And I'm at work. >_> *shifty eyes*

I think I'm undergoing severe Morrigan withdrawal. Dx

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Brockololly wrote...

I think thats basically the scenario that happened when WH was initially released and it had the bug where Morrigan didn't recognize the Dark Ritual- you could still go through the Eluvian but Morrigan gave the Warden a hard time about denying her the Ritual, but still acknowledged the Warden's son.

I'll try and find a youtube video...


Edit: I couldn't find a video right now but mostly its this line thats different as she doesn't mention how the normal child is a herald of things to come or how she needs to get more power to train the OGB. She just says the normal kid is healthy and safe:

*snip*


Thanks. And I actually managed to find it on Youtube, albeit the glitched variant (DR flag still wasn't readable back then).

I also noticed in another vid that she stated something about the possibility of the child claiming the throne if the child was Alistair's, then refuses to continue on the matter. Does she say the same if the Warden impregnated her and became king? Likewise, is there a comment for Loghain as well?

Also - hopefully my final question - is it possible to initiate a romance with Morrigan, without actually consumating it, but still get the ring?

Edit: Apparently found the anwser to the latter question myself, as it seems to be possible. I'd still like to know what happens in the King Cousland and Loghain scenarios, though.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 30 juin 2011 - 03:42 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Hoodie Morrigan picspam:

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*swoons*

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I'd like to see how the hood works with the SA robe mod. As it stands, the hood seems strangely out of place when combined with the half nakedness.

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Morri is trying to conceal her identity while maintaining her sex appeal towards all invaders of her swamp (to make them easy prey).

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Zjarcal wrote...

Morri is trying to conceal her identity while maintaining her sex appeal towards all invaders of her swamp (to make them easy prey).


But her eyes are all about sex appeal :wub:

Eh the entire vanilla outfit does not make much sense to me and is not appealing. I prefer the mod.
In the trailers, I rolled my eyes at the outfit thinking that this character is probably so shallow, that Bioware needs to dress her up like that to get our attention. I was completely wrong, but still, Morrigan doesn't need it.

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The thing is, her vanilla outfit was the result of an accident...

:P

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lol Yea I bet.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I'd like to see how the hood works with the SA robe mod. As it stands, the hood seems strangely out of place when combined with the half nakedness.

It's just the fashion equivalent of the mullet. Business in the penthouse, party on the lower floors.

In any case it should be compatible with the SA robe reskin*, so easy enough to check.

*) at least with the regular colour version, the recolour won't match, obv.

Modifié par tmp7704, 30 juin 2011 - 06:38 .


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this has been posted here before but it is so beautiful to me it deserves repeating. My favourite Morrigan art


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tmp7704 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I'd like to see how the hood works with the SA robe mod. As it stands, the hood seems strangely out of place when combined with the half nakedness.

It's just the fashion equivalent of the mullet. Business in the penthouse, party on the lower floors.

In any case it should be compatible with the SA robe reskin*, so easy enough to check.

*) at least with the regular colour version, the recolour won't match, obv.


Oh cool. Does it work like a helmet (you can put it on or off), or does it stay all the time?

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The hood up makes her glares look more severe, but it also makes any of her smiles just for you.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Yeah, I agree, Gears is easy to dismiss as just another shooter.  But, in truth, the story elements are surprisingly well developed and deeper than what a first glance might suggest.  I really like the polished gunplay and the MP, but the story of Sera, The COG, Delta and the Locust are also intriguing [not to mention a bit more interpersonal back story and character development than one might expect]. If you read the GOW Wiki, the plot elements as anotated in the character notes, seems to be moving to a whole new level.  The story of Dom, Maria and the introduction of Sam is one of those that promises to be a highlight.  Maria and Dom were sort of like the interpersonal anchor of the story, until well...you know.  We'll see where Sam fits in. Posted Image  CB voice acting her is a pretty good sign she might be important.

I like the way Epic has moved the franchise.  It started out as a pure shooter, but has gradually been moving toward deeper elements.  Horde 2.0 is a great example of that.  In my view, if you have the best TPS gunplay in the business, the world is pretty much open for the franchise.  I'd love to see a ME or Alpha Protocol-esque RPG emerge.  Cliffy B supposedly loves Mass Effect, calling it the RPG for guys like him, so I'll be interested to see if the future holds an experiment in that direction, and see what Epic can do in the genre.  Anyway...fun to speculate because I really love the franchise.  Hell, what with the hybridization bug going around, I'd almost bet it's a guarantee they'll try something RPG-ish.


Honestly, I always felt that a blend on story elements and combat missions (like ME)  should be the standard for TPS games. It would be nice if the story and relationships between character actually got a more spotlight than simply providing some context for all the shooting.
Though this may be easier to pull off for a rpg studio like Bioware, than for someone who knows how to create engaging combat, but has little to no experience with crafting a captivating story.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Oh cool. Does it work like a helmet (you can put it on or off), or does it stay all the time?

It's fixed part of the outfit at the moment (wanted to avoid it disappearing in the dialogue cutscenes and such)  May do alternative version that's an actual headpiece at some later time, will see.

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I went back a few pages and didn't see this, so forgive me if it's been posted already, but I thought it was pretty cool.

http://myouroboros.t...q4g9ukkN1qj02te

from myouroboros

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Addai67 wrote...

I went back a few pages and didn't see this, so forgive me if it's been posted already, but I thought it was pretty cool.

http://myouroboros.t...q4g9ukkN1qj02te

from myouroboros


Haha- thats awesome. Even has the big Mabari-like puppy there:wizard: