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[Jarlof Seoul]

Brockololly wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I went back a few pages and didn't see this, so forgive me if it's been posted already, but I thought it was pretty cool.

http://myouroboros.t...q4g9ukkN1qj02te

from myouroboros

Haha- thats awesome. Even has the big Mabari-like puppy there:wizard:

Jarl checking in from sorely needed vacation in Hawaii...

Miss Morrigan. Great pics in this page of the thread. The above kind of reminds of the a Witcher video still. Similar color pallette.

[Brockololly]

Some newish Morrigan art, since its been a while:


By: savagesparrow


By: CELENG


By: Milulya


By: danmaru

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 juillet 2011 - 02:32 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

Brockololly wrote...

Some newish Morrigan art, since its been a while:


By: savagesparrow


By: CELENG


By: Milulya


By: danmaru

all excellent, particularly 2nd from the bottom. keep the spirit alive

[csfteeeer]

Brockololly wrote...

Hoodie Morrigan picspam:

Where can i find that MOD!!??

[Brockololly]

csfteeeer wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Hoodie Morrigan picspam:

Where can i find that MOD!!??

Right here

[Deanooo]

Although I like Morrigans hairstyle, that hood, is awesome.

[goofyomnivore]

Is the mod that fixes/tweaks some of Morrigan's dialogue not around anymore? I couldn't find it on BSN or DANexus.

edit: NVM found it forgot to put "Restoration" in my searches :-)

Modifié par strive, 09 juillet 2011 - 05:08 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

xii_deano wrote...

Although I like Morrigans hairstyle, that hood, is awesome.

indeed!

[TheBlackBaron]

Brockololly wrote...

Some newish Morrigan art, since its been a while:


By: savagesparrow


By: CELENG


By: Milulya


By: danmaru

These are very nice, especially the second one. Good finds, Brock. 

[AstoundingArcaneArcher]

Riiight. Back to serious discussion. Do you think any Morrigan v. Flemeth shizz with go down in DA3?

[Jarlof Seoul]

AstoundingArcaneArcher wrote...

Riiight. Back to serious discussion. Do you think any Morrigan v. Flemeth shizz with go down in DA3?

Would be awesome. I think a mother vs daughter plot has potential.
On the other hand, wouldn't Flemeth and Morrigan both be
anti-Chantry/Templar regarding the "present day" DA2 Magi uprising?

Modifié par Jarlof Seoul, 12 juillet 2011 - 08:55 .

[Jarlof Seoul]

PureMethodActor wrote...

Jarlof Seoul wrote...

AstoundingArcaneArcher wrote...

Riiight. Back to serious discussion. Do you think any Morrigan v. Flemeth shizz with go down in DA3?

Would be awesome. I think a mother vs daughter plot has potential.
On the other hand, wouldn't Flemeth and Morrigan both be
anti-Chantry/Templar regarding the "present day" DA2 Magi uprising?

To that, I pose a question: Doesn't Morrigan, based on her reaction in the Lake Calenhad Circle Tower, detest the Circle mages as well? I believe she calls them too weak or stupid and thats the reason she tells the Warden to kill all of them.

That said, I don't even know if her whole "change" statement in Witch Hunt retcons that <_<

Either way, if there's consistency to Morrigan's beliefs from Origins (hopefully), then there could be possible motivations for Morrigan battling Flemeth.

I hope the mother/daughter battle happens! If consistency is maintained with the romance, Morrigan could be protecting the OGB from Flemeth's influence or plans.

I always interpreted Morrigan's attitude as ideologically anti-circle under its current form (lock and leash mages). That said she values her freedom and probably sympathizes with fugitive mages on the run. However, she has an extremely individualistic personality so would help a fellow mage without putting herself in jeopardy. She seems pragmatic in that she can tolerate fighting alongside ex-templar's such as Alistair. Over time her attitude towards people seemed to become more tolerant towards other asa result of my usually good Warden's influence.

regarding the battle with Flemeth, it would be cool, especially since Morrigan started the offensive by persuading my Warden to save her life by killing Flemeth. My Warden deciding to take on Flemeth, to whom he owed a life debt becuase he fell in love with her daughter and future body host was the most morally agonizing decision my Warden was forced to make. I had to choose between the two and chose Morrigan. Glad I eventually got my girl at the end of WH. That's why I'm pretty forgiving about DA2.

[Who is that Masked Man]

When she first brings up wanting to kill the Circle Mages, Morrigan calls them "pathetic excuses for mages" and compares them to mindless cattle.

But if you question her why she has such contempt for the Circle, Morrigan's tone softens a little. "Look at how they live, servants of the Chantry. They lack respect for themselves and their own power. Why should I respect them?"

Agree with her then, and she says of Wynne, "Save her, save them all from this half-life." Then Wynne flips out, and battle begins.

Sooo... basically Morrigan's objection to Circle Mages is that they choose to live confined in the Circle and to submit to the Chantry. One one level she hates them for their "weakness" in accepting theses things, but in some weird way, she also wants to help them. Specifically, she wants to "save" the Circle Mages by killing them all, because she actually thinks they would be better off dead than living as they do.

Long story short, Morrigan would almost definitely support the Circle Mages now that they're all in open rebellion against the Chantry. Of course she'd only support mage freedom in the same way that Anders does: "live free or die."

[ximena]

New Morri art!




Both from clc1997.

[Brockololly]

Who is that Masked Man wrote...
Long story short, Morrigan would almost definitely support the Circle Mages now that they're all in open rebellion against the Chantry. Of course she'd only support mage freedom in the same way that Anders does: "live free or die."

I don't know....the problem with trying to interpret anything regarding Morrigan's motivations is that we have zero clue as to what her ultimate plans are. Whatever it is Morrigan has planned with the Eluvian and OGB is where her real plans lie.

I'd just be supremely disappointed if all Morrigan's role in DA ends up being to simply spur more mage rebellion and so forth. It would just seem to me that whatever it is she's up to it would be FAR bigger and more sweeping than something as short sighted like Anders' terror attack on the Chantry.

I just don't see Morrigan trying to altruistically help rebel circle mages out of any philosophical understanding. Maybe she'd help certain individuals that perhaps possessed rare magical knowledge or just unique insights (like how she wants to free Jowan or Sten) but I don't see her latching on to any existing political/ideological group.

Maybe if the OGB acted as an agent of change, I could see Morrigan becoming a kind of leader or priestess or advisor to the OGB, should the OGB get a following. So if say, the OGB became like another Andraste with a big religous following I could totally see Morrigan as the power behind the OGB.

I'm resigned to the fact that whatever they do with Morrigan/OGB/Warden going forward, its probably going to be quite disappointing and underwhelming since BioWare doesn't do the whole consequence thing to choices like the Eluvian or DR.

ximena wrote...

New Morri art!



Both from clc1997.

Haha- Morrigan's expression is great there. 


And more Morrigan art!


By: GabriellaLiv

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I watched the end of Witch Hunt and Morrigan's comments seem to imply her goal is to end some sort of major threat rather than just foster rebellion against the Chantry. She never seemed to consider them one on the same level as a Blight might be.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Brockololly wrote...

Who is that Masked Man wrote...
Long story short, Morrigan would almost definitely support the Circle Mages now that they're all in open rebellion against the Chantry. Of course she'd only support mage freedom in the same way that Anders does: "live free or die."

I don't know....the problem with trying to interpret anything regarding Morrigan's motivations is that we have zero clue as to what her ultimate plans are. Whatever it is Morrigan has planned with the Eluvian and OGB is where her real plans lie.

I'd just be supremely disappointed if all Morrigan's role in DA ends up being to simply spur more mage rebellion and so forth. It would just seem to me that whatever it is she's up to it would be FAR bigger and more sweeping than something as short sighted like Anders' terror attack on the Chantry.

I just don't see Morrigan trying to altruistically help rebel circle mages out of any philosophical understanding. Maybe she'd help certain individuals that perhaps possessed rare magical knowledge or just unique insights (like how she wants to free Jowan or Sten) but I don't see her latching on to any existing political/ideological group.

Maybe if the OGB acted as an agent of change, I could see Morrigan becoming a kind of leader or priestess or advisor to the OGB, should the OGB get a following. So if say, the OGB became like another Andraste with a big religous following I could totally see Morrigan as the power behind the OGB.

I'm resigned to the fact that whatever they do with Morrigan/OGB/Warden going forward, its probably going to be quite disappointing and underwhelming since BioWare doesn't do the whole consequence thing to choices like the Eluvian or DR.

I could see Morrigan using the mage rebellions to her advantage. Perhaps manipulate them to suit her plans. But I do not see her involvement with them go past that and maybe mild sympathy.

And as much as I'd love to see the OGB in that way, I highly doubt it's going to happen, and the choice be of any real relevence. At best, we'll get a small sidequest of little consequence. Sigh, well at least I would be very dissapointed when that does happen.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Can anyone help explain how the Morrigan romance works? The first time I played through the game I romanced Morrigan when she started talking to me about friendship and then she asked me if there could be something more. What's triggers the difference between that one and the one where she propositions the Warden earlier on? Is it doing her quest with Flemeth before her reputation gets high enough? Because she never asked me for casual sex in either of my first 2 playthroughs.

[Jedimaster88]

I´ve been wondering something that I hope someone could tell. What exactly does morrigan say in those situations in the circle where you can choose to kill all the mages or save them? I dont remember who, but someone mentioned in a post about morrigan that she does support killing Wynne for her "hypocrisy" or something but objects killing every single mage especially if the first enchanter lives because that would mean doing the templars work or something.

So whats the truth? I´ve never been eager to side with the templars because I dont like killing innocents plus the mages are quite good to have in a war.

[Who is that Masked Man]

Brockololly wrote...

I just don't see Morrigan trying to altruistically help rebel circle mages out of any philosophical understanding. Maybe she'd help certain individuals that perhaps possessed rare magical knowledge or just unique insights (like how she wants to free Jowan or Sten) but I don't see her latching on to any existing political/ideological group.

Well, no, I wouldn't see Morrigan as a leading figure of the mage rebellion. 
Maybe establish a loose alliance with the mages that would also benefit
her. But the point I was trying to make is that she would, without question, favor the rebelling mages over the Chantry. If she had a chance to help the apostates by screwing over the Chantry in some way, I think she might very well take it.

Anyway, I must concede that for Morrigan her Secret Hidden Agenda will always come first, and as you say we have no idea what ther plan really is.

I will say that I think that the mage rebellion is a part of the Flemeth/Morrigan storyline, but I don't think it's the entirety of it. Hopefully it's just an intermediate stage. After all, the OGB was supposed to be the "herald" for what is to come. If what "is to come" was the mage rebellion, that already started, and OGB still has yet to make an appearance. I'm thinking (hoping?) that what we have seen so far is only the first few links in an epic chain of events to come.

Step 0 (optional): The birth of a child with the soul of an Old God.
Step 1: Freaky lyrium idol causes war between mages and templars.
Step 2: Important figures such as the Warden and Hawke spontaneously vanish.
Step 3: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from their graves!
Step 4: Human sacrifice, Mabari and nugs living together... mass hysteria!

Or something.

[Esbatty]

ximena wrote...

New Morri art!




Both from clc1997.

My Morrigan and Wynne fetishes... crossing streams... *brain implodes*