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[tklivory]

ximena wrote...

Now I know the secret can be about Alistair's parents or whatever. But I can't help thinking the OGB is that secret. I don't know if it's just me but one of the biggest plot threads fans always wonder about is the Morrigan and OGB storyline.

I hope my joke about Flemeth and Maric really doesn't turn out to be true... :blink:

Heh.  JK.

Interesting to see how it turns out.  It's going to be interesting to explain why the King of Fereldan is in a foreign country with such... interesting companions.

EDIT:
Interesting.  Yup.
(sorry just making fun of my bad writing above.  carry on.)

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 02:06 .

[MKDAWUSS]

ximena wrote...

"The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of 'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about the nature of dragons in Thedas.

"It follows a few things that fans of 'Dragon Age' have probably been wondering about for some time, and a few plot threads that we haven't been able to pick up elsewhere," Gaider continued. "I'm writing it, and as the Lead Writer on both of the 'Dragon Age' games I can say pretty confidently that it fits seamlessly into the overall narrative. These are characters the fans love, and there's some lore here that they won't find anywhere else. It should be a treat."

Now I know the secret can be about Alistair's parents or whatever. But I can't help thinking the OGB is that secret. I don't know if it's just me but one of the biggest plot threads fans always wonder about is the Morrigan and OGB storyline.

If that's the case, it would essentially canonize Alistair doing the DR, leaving a legion of outraged fans who have the Hero of Ferelden as the OGB's father. As for this thread's regulars, well, we're used to disappointment...

[tklivory]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

If that's the case, it would essentially canonize Alistair doing the DR, leaving a legion of outraged fans who have the Hero of Ferelden as the OGB's father. As for this thread's regulars, well, we're used to disappointment...

And what about all the ones who killed him to take the throne as well?  Equal disappoint.

[csfteeeer]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

ximena wrote...

"The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of 'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about the nature of dragons in Thedas.

"It follows a few things that fans of 'Dragon Age' have probably been wondering about for some time, and a few plot threads that we haven't been able to pick up elsewhere," Gaider continued. "I'm writing it, and as the Lead Writer on both of the 'Dragon Age' games I can say pretty confidently that it fits seamlessly into the overall narrative. These are characters the fans love, and there's some lore here that they won't find anywhere else. It should be a treat."

Now I know the secret can be about Alistair's parents or whatever. But I can't help thinking the OGB is that secret. I don't know if it's just me but one of the biggest plot threads fans always wonder about is the Morrigan and OGB storyline.

If that's the case, it would essentially canonize Alistair doing the DR, leaving a legion of outraged fans who have the Hero of Ferelden as the OGB's father. As for this thread's regulars, well, we're used to disappointment...

and this is why DA2 shouldn't have had the storyline it had.
Too many pending points to throw everything aside for later.

Without The Warden as main character, the Morrigan and OGB thing will NEVER have the conclusion it could, and should, have.

[Brockololly]

Ghidorah14 wrote...
In DA2, everything felt like templates.  It was like watching Thomas the tank engine.

"Oh, this charcter is making a joke. Put on the joking face."

Ghidorah14 wrote...
"Oh, this character is sad. Put on the sad face."

Ghidorah14 wrote...
"Oh, this character is mad. Put on the mad face"

Hahahaha- thats cracking me up. Somebody needs to photoshop the DA2 faces on Thomas the Tank engine:lol:

Wulfram wrote...

If you use a mod to unlock the default  lady hawke and use that as your base for modification, you can avoid the puffy face issue and have a much less awful looking Morrigan in DA2.

Yeah, I tried that too- it can come out ok, but even with the best I came up with, it still doesn't match up well IMO.

ximena wrote...

I'm not sure if everyone's up to speed, but apparently there's going to be a Dragon Age Comic book feat. Alistair, Isabela and Varric.

Now I found this interesting tidbit. (A list of the notable announcement BioWare made in NYCC. Can be seen here)



To point out what I want to point out:



So
yeah. This can be Flemeth or Morrigan or perhaps some other Witch of
the Wilds we don't know yet. But then in the first article I linked to,
it said:

"The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of
'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider
told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of
assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about the nature of dragons in Thedas.

"It follows a few things that fans of 'Dragon Age' have probably been wondering about for some time, and a few plot threads that we haven't been able to pick up elsewhere," Gaider continued. "I'm writing it, and as the Lead Writer on both of  the 'Dragon Age' games I can say pretty confidently that it fits  seamlessly into the overall narrative. These are characters the fans  love, and there's some lore here that they won't find anywhere else. It  should be a treat."

Now I know the secret can be about Alistair's parents or whatever. But I can't help thinking the OGB is that
secret. I don't know if it's just me but one of the biggest plot  threads fans always wonder about is the Morrigan and OGB storyline.



P.S. Damn you, Brock. What is that monstrosity?! Haha.

Thats DA2 Hot Rod Samurai Morrigan of course!


I don't know...its King Alistair, so I'm wondering if all this Bizarro World DA stuff Gaider is doing is tied into the Default Import option from DA2 where it was a Human Noble who did the DR.

As for the Witch of the Wilds bit, I hope its not Morrigan. Meh...I just don't really care about that stuff without the Warden involved really.  Flemeth? Yeah, maybe, especially since its supposed to have something to do with dragons too. Maybe Flemeth is like Dany Targaryan from GoT and is some Mother of all Dragons or something. Or its something like you said and its the OGB. But in that case, who does Gaider have as the parent? Alistair? I just think this whole thing seems like a crummy idea since its more than likely going to have to run over people's Wardens pretty blatantly. Thats not bad in itself, but I'm more concerned with the prospect of whatever canonized default world spilling over and dictating future games, ending up effectively retconing stuff from Origins, like they've pretty much done with Leliana or conveniently having the Warden and Hawke disappear.

Or the whole thing will be in true DA fashion where nothing is resolved at all and it just leaves more questions than answers.

csfteeeer wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...
If that's  the case, it would essentially canonize Alistair doing the DR, leaving a legion of outraged fans who have the Hero of Ferelden as the OGB's  father. As for this thread's regulars, well, we're used to  disappointment...

and this is why DA2 shouldn't have had the storyline it had.
Too many pending points to throw everything aside for later.

Without The Warden as main character, the Morrigan and OGB thing will NEVER have the conclusion it could, and should, have.

I'm thinking we're supposed to believe this is Gaider's own canon, yet even still I wonder what the point is in so blatantly contradicting people's choices by doing this sort of "what If?" story when they could instead explore any number of other things in DA that haven't been explored yet without railroading and retconing stuff.

If this does indeed end up with Morrigan or end up tying back in with her for some future content, they really ****ed that up by wasting time on DA2. There isn't any story momentum on that plot thread now and hell, BioWare's much coveted new audience they supposedly got with DA2 doesn't even know who Morrigan is.

Modifié par Brockololly, 16 octobre 2011 - 04:26 .

[TobiTobsen]

I really want to believe that the whole "Secret from Alistairs past" is about Marcis "promise" to Flemeth.
If we get Alistair as the canon father of the OGB... oh... and Alistair can stay away from Isabela (why is she there with him anyway? Seems like the same treatment the warden and Leliana romance got). Otherwise my Hawke will have to gut him.

Two possibilitys for Gaider to ruin my own headcanon. I'm already tense about the result. Any informations when this comic will be released?

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 16 octobre 2011 - 08:41 .

[tklivory]

TobiTobsen wrote...

I really want to believe that the whole "Secret from Alistairs past" is about Marcis "promise" to Flemeth.
If we get Alistair as the canon father of the OGB... oh... and Alistair can stay away from Isabela (why is she there with him anyway? Seems like the same treatment the warden and Leliana romance got). Otherwise my Hawke will have to gut him.

Two possibilitys for Gaider to ruin my own headcanon. I'm already tense about the result. Any informations when this comic will be released?

According to the main thread about this comic over in the DA2 forums, it will be available in digital format only in February 2012.  Oh, and they are also saying in that thread that this isn't 'canon', but Gaider's own personal preferred Alistair.  No word on OGB or anything yet (officially).  Could Isabela be the captain of the ship that takes Alistair to Antiva?  That would give a legitimate reason for your Hawke not to have to gut him. 

[TobiTobsen]

tklivory wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

I really want to believe that the whole "Secret from Alistairs past" is about Marcis "promise" to Flemeth.
If we get Alistair as the canon father of the OGB... oh... and Alistair can stay away from Isabela (why is she there with him anyway? Seems like the same treatment the warden and Leliana romance got). Otherwise my Hawke will have to gut him.

Two possibilitys for Gaider to ruin my own headcanon. I'm already tense about the result. Any informations when this comic will be released?

According to the main thread about this comic over in the DA2 forums, it will be available in digital format only in February 2012.  Oh, and they are also saying in that thread that this isn't 'canon', but Gaider's own personal preferred Alistair.  No word on OGB or anything yet (officially).  Could Isabela be the captain of the ship that takes Alistair to Antiva?  That would give a legitimate reason for your Hawke not to have to gut him. 

Ah, thank you for the link.

"not canon", we'll see about that. The whole "forge you own destiny" approach to DAO is dead, if you ask me. BioWare is trying hard to create a canon storyline. At least that's how I interpreted DA2 sometimes.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 16 octobre 2011 - 10:29 .

[Esbatty]

SONUVA... now I HAVE to buy some device to read the Dark Horse Digital comic. *needed an excuse, Morrigan related excuses is good enough for me*

...

Wait, scratch that, my baby sister has an iTouch. I shall have to "borrow" it the same way she "borrowed" my Gamecube and copies of Windwaker/Twilight Princess/Animal Crossing.

[Esbatty]

ximena wrote...

I'm not sure if everyone's up to speed, but apparently there's going to be a Dragon Age Comic book feat. Alistair, Isabela and Varric.

Now I found this interesting tidbit. (A list of the notable announcement BioWare made in NYCC. Can be seen here)



To point out what I want to point out:



So yeah. This can be Flemeth or Morrigan or perhaps some other Witch of the Wilds we don't know yet. But then in the first article I linked to, it said:

"The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of 'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about the nature of dragons in Thedas.

"It follows a few things that fans of 'Dragon Age' have probably been wondering about for some time, and a few plot threads that we haven't been able to pick up elsewhere," Gaider continued. "I'm writing it, and as the Lead Writer on both of the 'Dragon Age' games I can say pretty confidently that it fits seamlessly into the overall narrative. These are characters the fans love, and there's some lore here that they won't find anywhere else. It should be a treat."

Now I know the secret can be about Alistair's parents or whatever. But I can't help thinking the OGB is that secret. I don't know if it's just me but one of the biggest plot threads fans always wonder about is the Morrigan and OGB storyline.



P.S. Damn you, Brock. What is that monstrosity?! Haha.

Xi, I love you.

[TobiTobsen]

Esbatty wrote...

SONUVA... now I HAVE to buy some device to read the Dark Horse Digital comic. *needed an excuse, Morrigan related excuses is good enough for me*

I'm not quite sure if I understand the article in that aspect. Where exactly is Dark Horse publishing their comics? Only on this iWhatever app? If that's the case I'm to oldschool for that stuff.

[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...
If
that's  the case, it would essentially canonize Alistair doing the DR,
leaving a legion of outraged fans who have the Hero of Ferelden as the
OGB's  father. As for this thread's regulars, well, we're used to 
disappointment...

and this is why DA2 shouldn't have had the storyline it had.
Too many pending points to throw everything aside for later.

Without The Warden as main character, the Morrigan and OGB thing will NEVER have the conclusion it could, and should, have.

I'm
thinking we're supposed to believe this is Gaider's own canon, yet even
still I wonder what the point is in so blatantly contradicting people's
choices by doing this sort of "what If?" story when they could instead
explore any number of other things in DA that haven't been explored yet
without railroading and retconing stuff.

If this does indeed end
up with Morrigan or end up tying back in with her for some future
content, they really ****ed that up by wasting time on DA2. There isn't
any story momentum on that plot thread now and hell, BioWare's much
coveted new audience they supposedly got with DA2 doesn't even know who
Morrigan is.

That's the thing that's starting to irk me as well - there's still plenty to explore in the DA world, and books and comics and such are a great way to do that, and they can introduce their own stories and characters, but for this we're getting a returning cast of characters, some of who have major storylines that included player involvement and should be given treatment in forms where there can be player/viewer/reader input as to how it got to its current state and how it develops. For example, with the Morrigan-OGB storyline, I should be able to note if the OGB is in fact the OGB and who the father is. I can then have that story continue in the DA world that I've experienced.

Now if it's a completely new story with completely new characters, I don't have to worry about it countering the decisions I've made in the DA games so far.

What's the point of allowing decisions if they're going to be blatantly disregarded? If they developed things back to a unified point, that's one thing, but to say that's not how it happened is quite another.

tklivory wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

I really want to believe that the whole "Secret from Alistairs past" is about Marcis "promise" to Flemeth.
If we get Alistair as the canon father of the OGB... oh... and Alistair can stay away from Isabela (why is she there with him anyway? Seems like the same treatment the warden and Leliana romance got). Otherwise my Hawke will have to gut him.

Two possibilitys for Gaider to ruin my own headcanon. I'm already tense about the result. Any informations when this comic will be released?

According to the main thread about this comic over in the DA2 forums, it will be available in digital format only in February 2012.  Oh, and they are also saying in that thread that this isn't 'canon', but Gaider's own personal preferred Alistair.  No word on OGB or anything yet (officially).  Could Isabela be the captain of the ship that takes Alistair to Antiva?  That would give a legitimate reason for your Hawke not to have to gut him. 

So Gaider's writing... fan fiction? 

[tklivory]

TobiTobsen wrote...

I'm not quite sure if I understand the article in that aspect. Where exactly is Dark Horse publishing their comics? Only on this iWhatever app? If that's the case I'm to oldschool for that stuff.

This article has more details, but here is some more info:

"Dragon Age" universe would return to comics in February, in a series of six biweekly twelve-page issues available through Dark Horse's iOS app and online for $.99 each.

*blah blah blah bunch of other stuff blah blah blah*

Dark Horse's "Dragon Age" comics will be presented as 12-page digital exclusives through the publisher's iPad/iPhone app and online at digital.darkhorse.com.

So it looks like you don't have to have an iPad/iPhone, just internet access to get the comic.

*edited for formatting

Modifié par tklivory, 16 octobre 2011 - 11:04 .

[tklivory]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

So Gaider's writing... fan fiction? 

Fan fiction from someone who knows a little bit more than most FF writers, at least.  Misfortunately, given the nature of the comic book industry, what will really happen is that Gaider will give a treatment to IDW (plot synopsis, key plot points to hit along the way, etc) and the actual scripting will be done by their in-house writer (Alexander Freed in this case).

But yeah, bizarro!Gaider has arrived.

[TobiTobsen]

tklivory wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

I'm not quite sure if I understand the article in that aspect. Where exactly is Dark Horse publishing their comics? Only on this iWhatever app? If that's the case I'm to oldschool for that stuff.

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"Dragon Age" universe would return to comics in
February, in a series of six biweekly twelve-page issues available
through Dark Horse's iOS app and online for $.99 each.
*blah blah blah bunch of other stuff blah blah blah*
Dark Horse's "Dragon Age" comics will be presented
as 12-page digital exclusives through the publisher's iPad/iPhone app
and online at digital.darkhorse.com data:image/gif;base64,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 .

So it looks like you don't have to have an iPad/iPhone, just internet access to get the comic.

Yeah... that was the article I was refering to. Just wasn't sure if that app thing and online were meant as to different things, because I really don't know how all that iPad stuff works

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 16 octobre 2011 - 11:07 .

[ximena]

tklivory wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

So Gaider's writing... fan fiction? 

Fan fiction from someone who knows a little bit more than most FF writers, at least.  Misfortunately, given the nature of the comic book industry, what will really happen is that Gaider will give a treatment to IDW (plot synopsis, key plot points to hit along the way, etc) and the actual scripting will be done by their in-house writer (Alexander Freed in this case).

But yeah, bizarro!Gaider has arrived.

Hahaha. MKDAWUSS, you cracked me up.

I guess it's not fanfiction if he's the one writing it? But then that would make it canon...? Now I'm confused. Haha.

You know I'd rather have them work on things that do have bearing in-game rather than work on some alternate-non-canon-universe works.

[Brockololly]

MKDAWUSS wrote...
That's the thing that's starting to irk me as well - there's still plenty to explore in the DA world, and books and comics and such are a great way to do that, and they can introduce their own stories and characters, but for this we're getting a returning cast of characters, some of who have major storylines that included player involvement and should be given treatment in forms where there can be player/viewer/reader input as to how it got to its current state and how it develops. For example, with the Morrigan-OGB storyline, I should be able to note if the OGB is in fact the OGB and who the father is. I can then have that story continue in the DA world that I've experienced.

Now if it's a completely new story with completely new characters, I don't have to worry about it countering the decisions I've made in the DA games so far.

What's the point of allowing decisions if they're going to be blatantly disregarded? If they developed things back to a unified point, that's one thing, but to say that's not how it happened is quite another.

Yeah, thats what I really don't understand with this. The devs on one hand keep preaching how the DA universe is this massive thing full of stories to tell and thats why we can't have the same protagonist in more than one game. Yet on the other hand, they do something like this comic where it seems intent on making Thedas into the Small World Phenomenon, where everyone ends up meeting or knowing everyone else and makes what should be a continent the size of Europe into a group of about a dozen or so people that all know each other. ANd then they have their own canon which runs over what few player choices there are.

And while I like Alistair, I like him through the perspective of my Wardens. Its not the same when you take the PC out of the equation- that would especially be true with characters like Morrigan or Sten too, where their character development is mostly dependant on their relationship with the PC.

I just wonder if the lack of choice in DA2 is in part to accomodate future ancillary products like comics/movies/books and so forth. Which is disappointing if true, since I don't really know who they're marketing all this extra stuff to but the people who have already played the DA games, who are the ones most likely to discount this stuff as Gaider's fanfic headcanon...

ximena wrote...
I guess it's not fanfiction if he's the one writing it? But then that would make it canon...? Now I'm confused. Haha.

You
know I'd rather have them work on things that do have bearing in-game
rather than work on some alternate-non-canon-universe works.

Well, according to Laidlaw's twitter this whole thing is canon...except it isn't:blink:

There will be a canon, yes. King, specifically. If that doesn't match your world consider it a "What If?"

We have an internal canon for these things. Wish we could have no conflicts at all, but Dave's doing all he can to minimize.

I find it funny how he's saying Gaider is doing all he can to minimize, yet the very premise of the whole thing flies in the face of most of the major decisions of Origins. As for the Witch of the Wilds bit, well, if Alistair is searching for one, he only knows 2 so it would have to be Flemeth or Morrigan. Then again, maybe this ties into the Morrigan Clone Army from that DA2 trailer- you've got that one banter between Zevran and Morrigan where Zev says there is a tale of a Witch of the Wilds in Antiva. Maybe Morrigan's sister?

Now that I think about it, this just reminds me of Darkspawn Chronicles:sick:

Modifié par Brockololly, 16 octobre 2011 - 01:37 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I have a different reason as to why this comic, and now all of DA, are no longer of interest to me.

It's rather simple. The premise of a king having an adventure instead of ruling is idiotic, and it will most likely be focused on more supernatural elements that I couldn't care less about.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 octobre 2011 - 05:56 .

[Zjarcal]

Everything is idiotic to you man.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Be that as it may, some things are more idiotic than others

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I have a different reason as to why this comic, and now all of DA, are no longer of interest to me.

It's rather simple. The premise of a king having an adventure instead of ruling is idiotic, and it will most likely be focused on more supernatural elements that I couldn't care less about.

Well if we're thinking Alistair is an idiot, then it makes sense he'd do idiotic things as a king!

Anyway, here is video of the panel and the announcement. They talk about the comic but the future of DA at large too, FWIW. (Apparently they do fixed characters looks only for cosplay....)

Its hard to hear, but at about 1:30 Gaider seems to say "searching for a Witch of the Wilds, which is one of Flemeth's daughters." So that would seem to eliminate the possibility of them searching for Flemeth and leaves either Morrigan or some other witch- maybe the one Zevran hinted at in the banter with Morrigan. But then he also seems to insinuate that its about Alistair's parentage.

And here is that rumored concept art of Morrigan standing in front of a burning building that was talked about a little while ago at PAX (with some dude's head in the foreground):


Why do I get the feeling they're simply going to make Morrigan a villain?

Modifié par Brockololly, 16 octobre 2011 - 07:57 .

[Merilsell]

Brockololly wrote...
Anyway, here is video of the panel and the announcement. They talk about the comic but the future of DA at large too, FWIW. (Apparently they do fixed characters looks only for cosplay....)

Yeah, that was my impression about that part, too. I facepalmed. Way to go, Bioware. <_<

Why do I get the feeling they're simply going to make Morrigan a villain?

Because Bioware has a thing for one-dimensional-mustache-twirling-villians lately?  Anyway, have a Morrigan. Soothes the nerves  



Art by characterundefined

[MKDAWUSS]

Brockololly wrote...

Why do I get the feeling they're simply going to make Morrigan a villain?

If they do, it better be a Loghain-type villain rather than a Meredith/Orsino one. It would also be another test of separating player vs. player character. Player most likely has a history with Morrigan while player character does not. Having player character oppose Morrigan would separate said individual from the Hero of Ferelden even more.

[Brockololly]

Merilsell wrote...

Brockololly wrote...
Anyway, here is video of the panel and the announcement. They talk about the comic but the future of DA at large too, FWIW. (Apparently they do fixed characters looks only for cosplay....)

Yeah, that was my impression about that part, too. I facepalmed. Way to go, Bioware. <_<

Heh...yeah, the occassional cosplay might be pretty cool, but ummm....yeah. Lets just say that I really wish some people wouldn't try to pull off the Isabela or Morrigan outfit. Just no.

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Why do I get the feeling they're simply going to make Morrigan a villain?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

If they do, it better be a Loghain-type villain rather than a  Meredith/Orsino one. It would also be another test of separating player  vs. player character. Player most likely has a history with Morrigan  while player character does not. Having player character oppose Morrigan would separate said individual from the Hero of Ferelden even more.

I don't really have much faith in BioWare's writers to do good villains at this juncture. Honestly, their only decent villain for the last good while was Irenicus. Saren was decent too I guess, but was only a pawn. Loghain was a decent antagonist, but IMO, he only was a really good character when you had his backstory from the books.

But you're right about the mounting issue of player knowledge versus PC knowledge that'll only get worse over time. Action games and shooters do the whole changing of main character thing coupled with making the protagonist of game 1 the villain in the next game, but they don't leverage role playing.

Honestly, I don't even think that many people arduously role play a given PC- most more causal BioWare game players likely play the game sort of role playing it in such a way that they're making decisions as they would make them themselves. So forcing the player against a former friendly companion would have a high BS barrier to climb.

As I've said a million times, I really don't see how BioWare can do a satisfactory conclusion to any of this Morrigan stuff at this juncture. The time to do that was either with an expack for Origins or DA2 with the Warden as the PC, not some new guy  PC who has no personal investment in the outcome.

And whatever big plot twists or questions they answer will have likely been ideas discussed in this thread a thousand times over. I just think BioWare has held onto their big Morrigan card for far too long. They should have played that a while ago. Its kind of like George RR Martin and the parentage of Jon Snow- at this point most readers of that series of books can pretty safely guess R+L=J, but GRRM is dragging that out a bit. So when the time does come, its not going to be much of a surprise most likely.

Same with most of the Morrigan stuff- whether thats Flemeth=Morrigan or all the Witches of the Wild are actually dragons or Morrigan using the OGB's soul to get dragon power like Flemeth or whatever- they missed the boat on cashing in on that plot line, especially since DA2 really soured people on the franchise.

Modifié par Brockololly, 17 octobre 2011 - 02:31 .

[Retrogue]

A Morrigan morph may be blasphemy in this thread, but I made one anyway. I didn't want to improve upon the vanilla Morrigan, but I did aim to make her look more like mommy dearest. It's still a work in progress. When/if I ever stick it up on the Nexus, I'll have a scarred and unscarred version available.

I'd like to make her lips a little fuller, but every time I tinker around with that and then test it in-game, they look really weird when she talks. XD





And here's a Morrigan drawing in case this makes you angry!


Artist: YessPleasse

Modifié par Retrogue, 17 octobre 2011 - 08:00 .