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[csfteeeer]

Brockololly wrote...

(Apparently they do fixed characters looks only for cosplay....)

Jesus Christ...

[Fallstar]

 Is there anything vaguely interesting in the new dlc? I'm not going to bother buying it if there's no extra lore pertaining to the overall world state. (Figured I'd ask here as people have non idiotic, sensible, similar definitions of interesting to me.

[Fallstar]

Double post fail. Ok instead I'll make this one Morrigan related; I'm OK with Morrigan being seen as villain by the protagnist of the new series, assuming the protaganist is a bit thick. But if they completely change her character to turn her into a Meredith or an Orsino - that'd just be too far.

Modifié par DuskWarden, 17 octobre 2011 - 10:54 .

[csfteeeer]

DuskWarden wrote...

 Is there anything vaguely interesting in the new dlc? I'm not going to bother buying it if there's no extra lore pertaining to the overall world state. (Figured I'd ask here as people have non idiotic, sensible, similar definitions of interesting to me.

Well they do expand a bit on the Qunari things, then theres also a new mechanic, stealth, which i guess it's pretty neat.... and that's it.

But to be honest, it's not very interesting(imo obviously), and that stealth system it's EXTREMELY bare bones, so it's hard worth a try just because of that.

Oh, and theres also Tallis, she's a good character i guess, but if you didn't liked Characters like Kasumi, Varric, Zevran, or any character that acts like A Smartass.... then you're not gonna like her.

[Xilizhra]

You know, I've just realized...

Isn't Morrigan killable in Witch Hunt? Wouldn't her being alive now count as choice invalidation for those who stabbed her? Wouldn't that be another Leliana-like issue? And that totally ignores whether or not the Dark Ritual was performed in the first place...

[TobiTobsen]

Xilizhra wrote...

You know, I've just realized...

Isn't Morrigan killable in Witch Hunt? Wouldn't her being alive now count as choice invalidation for those who stabbed her? Wouldn't that be another Leliana-like issue? And that totally ignores whether or not the Dark Ritual was performed in the first place...

You could stab her, but I'm pretty sure that it was stated that she is not dead, no matter what.

[tklivory]

Xilizhra wrote...

You know, I've just realized...

Isn't Morrigan killable in Witch Hunt? Wouldn't her being alive now count as choice invalidation for those who stabbed her? Wouldn't that be another Leliana-like issue? And that totally ignores whether or not the Dark Ritual was performed in the first place...

Technically you stab her and she falls backwards into the mirror (had to Youtube that, never chose that ending myself).  Theoretically, she could still be alive after that, since she never says where she is going, and someone could have been at the other end to save her.  Theoretically. 

Also, I think it has been established that the Witch of the Wilds mentioned is neither Morrigan nor Flemeth in this comic.  However, since this is supposed to be non-canon anyway (snort), we'll see how it goes

:ph34r:ed

Modifié par tklivory, 18 octobre 2011 - 12:24 .

[Brockololly]

Retrogue wrote...

A Morrigan morph may be blasphemy in this thread, but I made one anyway. I didn't want to improve upon the vanilla Morrigan, but I did aim to make her look more like mommy dearest. It's still a work in progress. When/if I ever stick it up on the Nexus, I'll have a scarred and unscarred version available.

I'd like to make her lips a little fuller, but every time I tinker around with that and then test it in-game, they look really weird when she talks. XD

Heh..I tried doing something like that a long time ago- blending together Morrigan's facemorph with Flemeth's. Didn't turn out too pleasant. I guess that might be more what an older Morrigan might look like- although that was using DAO's Flemeth and DA2 Flemeth looks a good deal younger.

DuskWarden wrote...

Double post fail. Ok instead I'll make
this one Morrigan related; I'm OK with Morrigan being seen as villain
by the protagnist of the new series, assuming the protaganist is a bit
thick. But if they completely change her character to turn her into a
Meredith or an Orsino - that'd just be too far.

As for the DLC, there isn't anything Morrigan related in it really. In terms of lore, its mostly some Qunari related stuff and a little bit of a look at Orlesian culture. But there really isn't much in the way of anything major, lore wise.

As for Morrigan as an antagonist, the great thing about Origins is how the Warden can basically agree or disagree with Morrigan and her ways. The great part of Morrigan is the mystery surrounding her. I just get the feeling that whenever they (maybe) reveal what she's actually up to and kind of more solidly state her goals/agenda, its going to feel like a let down no matter what, simply because they've left it out there for so long.

She isn't a black and white character really and thats what makes her great. Yet as of late, most BioWare villains end up being black and white. Or they develop nicely until its time to have some big boss fight for no reason.

Xilizhra wrote...

You know, I've just realized...

Isn't
Morrigan killable in Witch Hunt? Wouldn't her being alive now count as
choice invalidation for those who stabbed her? Wouldn't that be another
Leliana-like issue? And that totally ignores whether or not the Dark
Ritual was performed in the first place...

Not really, no.

Morrigan can be stabbed. But you never see her die, you only see her get stabbed and as she's being stabbed, she falls backwards into the Eluvian. Laidlaw has said that Morrigan's story isn't done and I know he posted as much in the forums that you only stabbed Morrigan, you never saw her die, as she went through the Eluvian.

So there really wouldn't be any choice invalidation there since the only choice to be made was to stab Morrigan, which the Warden could have done.

[Retrogue]

I just used Flemeth's unique shape (.37). It doesn't look very good when you combine the unique shapes, so it's better to just pick one. I have a trick for making the eyebrows arch even when the unique shape doesn't do so: Go to the "Eyes" tab and raise the Eye Brows (Down/Up) and then go to the Brows tab and lower the Brows (Down/Up).

Brockololly wrote...

Retrogue wrote...

A Morrigan morph may be blasphemy in this thread, but I made one anyway. I didn't want to improve upon the vanilla Morrigan, but I did aim to make her look more like mommy dearest. It's still a work in progress. When/if I ever stick it up on the Nexus, I'll have a scarred and unscarred version available.

I'd like to make her lips a little fuller, but every time I tinker around with that and then test it in-game, they look really weird when she talks. XD

Heh..I tried doing something like that a long time ago- blending together Morrigan's facemorph with Flemeth's. Didn't turn out too pleasant. I guess that might be more what an older Morrigan might look like- although that was using DAO's Flemeth and DA2 Flemeth looks a good deal younger.

[Jarlof Seoul]

Wulfram wrote...

If you use a mod to unlock the default lady hawke and use that as your base for modification, you can avoid the puffy face issue and have a much less awful looking Morrigan in DA2.



Far from perfect, but not so horrible as the one at the top and hopefully Bioware are better than me.

Ahhhhh (Sigh with relief)..... much better

[KnightofPhoenix]

It still sucks (not due to Wulfram). Just less so.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 19 octobre 2011 - 02:04 .

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

It still sucks (not due to Wulfram). Just less so.

Yeah....you take away the hairstyle and makeup and it looks pretty much like default FemHawke. I just don't think the facemorph system for DA2 is very flexible in creating different looking faces. Its like a Mr. Potato Head doll.

Anyway, some Morrigan art:


By: FoxFirePheonix


By: RedTyga

And I am very excited for Skyrim for many reasons, but I am totally going to make a female Breton mage named Morrigan

[Retrogue]

Tweaked and done. I tried to make Morrigan look more like her mother while retaining her Morrigan-ness. Don't ask about the scars. I'll have an unscarred version available when I put it up on the Nexus. I'm seeing a little bit of Michelle Trachtenberg in this morph for some reason. XD

Modifié par Retrogue, 19 octobre 2011 - 05:40 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Completely unrelated to any of the above posts:




Image provided by the DA FB page

[KnightofPhoenix]

Amazing that the sight of Morrigan mods still irritate me tremendously even after 2 years. Nothing personal though.



And one of my all time favorites

[Costin_Razvan]

Zjarcal wrote...

Everything is idiotic to you man.

I know you could honestly not give a **** about politics yourself Zjarcal, but for me and Knight to see politics presented in the abomination like way of DA2 destroys any immersion the game can have for us.

P.S. OH GOD please tell me they didn't introduce her to DA2, please God no!

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 19 octobre 2011 - 06:38 .

[Brockololly]

Retrogue wrote...

Tweaked and done. I tried to make Morrigan look more like her mother while retaining her Morrigan-ness. Don't ask about the scars. I'll have an unscarred version available when I put it up on the Nexus. I'm seeing a little bit of Michelle Trachtenberg in this morph for some reason. XD
*snip*

Nice job going for a more Flemeth-y look but its maybe not enough Morrigan looking in the lips or how her face is more gaunt. And I think thats a different yellow than her normal eye color, right?

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Amazing that the sight of Morrigan mods still irritate me tremendously even after 2 years. Nothing personal

I think the only Morrigan mod that I like is the one Adneate did a while back as its mostly very subtle changes:

[Retrogue]

Brockololly wrote...

Nice job going for a more Flemeth-y look but its maybe not enough Morrigan looking in the lips or how her face is more gaunt. And I think thats a different yellow than her normal eye color, right?

Yeah, I don't think you actually can use Morrigan's custom eye color in the toolset, so I used PineappleTree's glowy yellow ones instead. I'm sure there is a mod somewhere out there which allows for the Morrigan eye color to be used, just as MoreHairstyles did with her custom 'do... But I couldn't be arsed to look. XD I always provide the MRH files as an optional download anyway so if someone wants to switch out the eye color for another then he/she can!

And ugh... The stupid lips. I'm still trying to make them look fuller, but when I do that then they look kind of odd when she talks. I might just leave her mouth as is. Flemeth had pretty thin lips.

Modifié par Retrogue, 19 octobre 2011 - 11:20 .

[Retrogue]

Umm, is this thread dying? Guess I'll just leave this here...


by orientalowl

[MKDAWUSS]

If that DA2 DLC featuring Morrigan is announced, this thread will be alive again. This thread has it's periods of activity and inactivity.

We just need more developments on things regarding Morrigan and the OGB.

[Brockololly]

Yeah, this thread isn't dying anytime soon.

Halloween Morrigan!


By: Batata-Tasha

[BlackEmperor]

Brockololly wrote...

Not really, no.

Morrigan can be stabbed. But you never see her die, you only see her get stabbed and as she's being stabbed, she falls backwards into the Eluvian. Laidlaw has said that Morrigan's story isn't done and I know he posted as much in the forums that you only stabbed Morrigan, you never saw her die, as she went through the Eluvian.

So there really wouldn't be any choice invalidation there since the only choice to be made was to stab Morrigan, which the Warden could have done.

The issues surrounding the survivability of stomach wounds, the effectiveness of healing magic, and the effectiveness of your Shanking Knife ™ aside, it does make me wonder why they would offer the player such a choice if they weren't going to... actually make it a choice.

I kind of understand what they did with Flemeth, since cheating death is a routine she's been practicing for centuries. But pulling that card twice for two different characters is--bewildering, I guess.

[csfteeeer]

BlackEmperor wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Not really, no.

Morrigan can be stabbed. But you never see her die, you only see her get stabbed and as she's being stabbed, she falls backwards into the Eluvian. Laidlaw has said that Morrigan's story isn't done and I know he posted as much in the forums that you only stabbed Morrigan, you never saw her die, as she went through the Eluvian.

So there really wouldn't be any choice invalidation there since the only choice to be made was to stab Morrigan, which the Warden could have done.

The issues surrounding the survivability of stomach wounds, the effectiveness of healing magic, and the effectiveness of your Shanking Knife ™ aside, it does make me wonder why they would offer the player such a choice if they weren't going to... actually make it a choice.

I kind of understand what they did with Flemeth, since cheating death is a routine she's been practicing for centuries. But pulling that card twice for two different characters is--bewildering, I guess.

If they let her live, i wouldn't be bothered.

One, because at the end, the canon that needs to matter, is the writer's one, not the players, unless the writers can really take the liberty, which unless BW makes big decisions matter (BETWEEN GAMES), it won't be happening with this one.

Second, Perhaps Morrigan could have had the help of a Fade Spirit? like Wynne.
Afterall, she said she is willing to do it.
That would be a good explanation.

Still though, i don't understand why the stab option was there.... it literally came out of nowhere.

[TobiTobsen]

csfteeeer wrote...

Still though, i don't understand why the stab option was there.... it literally came out of nowhere.

Because people on the BSN have the nasty habit to demand a stab option for everybody. Morrigan was a case where BioWare appeased the mob and still kept it ambiguous, so they can use Morrigan in the future.

[tklivory]

TobiTobsen wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Still though, i don't understand why the stab option was there.... it literally came out of nowhere.

Because people on the BSN have the nasty habit to demand a stab option for everybody. Morrigan was a case where BioWare appeased the mob and still kept it ambiguous, so they can use Morrigan in the future.

But seriously... no Shanking Knife ™ for Anora, but there's an option for Morrigan?  Gah!  There is no justice!

*harrumph*

(i keed, i keed... sorta) <_<

But yeah, I don't get the kill option for Morrigan, either.  It screamed a bit too much of 'ooo, lookit at us writing all edgy!'  The context of (for example) choosing to promote, exile, or execute Alistair made sense within the context of the story at the moment in DAO (more or less), but the option to kill Morrigan for... what, exactly?  I've never been able to see anything she did (or could have done) as some kind of betrayal, myself.  She...left?  After she told you she would?  And that's reason enough to evoke Shanking ™?

 <_<

Nope, still don't get it.

Modifié par tklivory, 23 octobre 2011 - 07:55 .