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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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MisterJB wrote...

Morrigan did not mention making a deal with a demon in the banter I posted. Rather, she talked of forcing one into her service which is possible with blood magic. She probrably considers it an important distinction.


Blood magic, lyrium or skills from the spirit school of magic, I suppose, like Rhys and Wynne. Or by accident like Anders and Cole.

Anyway, I agree that she might make distinctions between non demonic spiritual beings and actual demons.

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I actually meant that she would probrably frown at the idea of making a deal with a demon and hope that the creature is not going to doublecross you at the first opportunity as opposed to subjugating one through binding magic, a process described in the Scrolls of Banastor.

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MisterJB wrote...

I actually meant that she would probrably frown at the idea of making a deal with a demon and hope that the creature is not going to doublecross you at the first opportunity as opposed to subjugating one through binding magic, a process described in the Scrolls of Banastor.



I've been a little slow  today :pinched: , but I get you now.

 Morrigan may have the willpower to try to subjugate a spirit or whatever, don't know for how long or how succesful she can be, though. The quest in the Fade makes me believe she would be strong enough to at least put up with a good mental fight.  I mean, when you are the only one of your party (wich inlcudes a very experienced spirit healer mage hosting a spirt herself)  that actually  knows that you are in the Fade and everthing  around you isn't real, proves, that at the very leas,t you have a decent degree of competence to keep your mind shielded.

Returnig to the original post, and about the banter. Sometimes I don't know whether to take seriously everything Morrigan says or not. Half of the time she seems to say things just to test other people and see their reaction, and the other half just to bug them.

#14854
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True tough I think that mistery is part of what makes Morrigan such an engaging character.
For instance, the matter of the contents of Flemeth's Grimoire is still very much up for debate.
Yavana's words suggest that there was some truth to what Morrigan told the Warden but it could be she had been planning to get rid of Flemeth for some time in order to have full control over the reborn Urthemiel.

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DarkAngelz84 wrote...

DarkAngelz84 wrote...

Hi Guys,
The Morrigan Romance Bug between Awakening and DAO still exists?
I Gave her the mirror long time ago, so if the bug is not fixed there's still no chance (in 2013) to have the romance active even if I obtained the "ring epilogue"?
It's not that I don't have different save in order to "see" the epilogues, but due to the fact that, like many others, I would like to have all the possibly best epilogue for Morrigan, I would like to know if this problem has been fixed or not. Thanks,
Dark


Sorry guys, could you give me an hint about the question in quotes? Thanks in advance
Dark


Sorry again, I woul like to add another question, if I unlock the ring epilogue, I'll be able to have the morrigan good ending in witch hunt? or I have to do the same thing that I have for awakening?

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I mean, when you are the only one of your party (wich inlcudes a very experienced spirit healer mage hosting a spirt herself) that actually knows that you are in the Fade and everthing around you isn't real, proves, that at the very leas,t you have a decent degree of competence to keep your mind shielded.


Sten recognizes the Fade dream he's in is just an illusion. He's just choosing not to leave because the Demons are doing a damn good job impersonating his brothers.

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Betraying Morrigan is hardly my preferred course of action but it does lead to some badass moments.

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I take it that's if you side with the Templars during Broken Circle?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 16 janvier 2013 - 09:35 .


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Not exactly, you have to inform Gregoir that Morrigan is an Apostate.

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Not that it really matters, but is going through the eluvian with her supposed to be on the plot summary for a DA2 import? It wasn't for me and I'm just wondering if it's bugged, or if it's just something that's imported but doesn't show (used end autosave). Thanks for the OP btw, helped a lot to avoid game bugs.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 18 janvier 2013 - 09:36 .


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DarkAngelz84 wrote...

Hi Guys,
The Morrigan Romance Bug between Awakening and DAO still exists?
I Gave her the mirror long time ago, so if the bug is not fixed there's still no chance (in 2013) to have the romance active even if I obtained the "ring epilogue"?
It's not that I don't have different save in order to "see" the epilogues, but due to the fact that, like many others, I would like to have all the possibly best epilogue for Morrigan, I would like to know if this problem has been fixed or not. Thanks,
Dark


As I recall, BioWare never fixed the Morrigan romance problems between Awakening and Origins. Ultimately I don't think it matters in terms of your import since they did fix the import into Witch Hunt. Its as its described in the OP: to get the proper romance epilogue in Origins, you need to speak with her after the Dark Ritual. That will get you the ring epilogue slide in Origins. But by doing that, you will not get the proper Morrigan romance epilogue slide at the end of Awakening.

For the sake of importing to Witch Hunt and having everything work properly there, it doesn't matter- you're fine as they fixed Witch Hunt's import. If you're playing on consoles you're stuck with that situation. If you're playing on PC, then you can download Terra_Ex's Morrigan Restorartion mod which fixes this so you can properly get both epilogues in Origins and Awakening.

DarkAngelz84 wrote...
Sorry again, I woul like to add another question, if I unlock the ring  epilogue, I'll be able to have the morrigan good ending in witch hunt?  or I have to do the same thing that I have for awakening?

You should be fine either way for Witch Hunt. If you get the ring ending in Origins or if you get the Morrigan romance epilogue slide in Awakening, the import to Witch Hunt should be just fine. BioWare patched the Witch Hunt DLC a while ago to fix the problem that Witch Hunt had where Morrigan did not recognize whether your Warden did the Dark Ritual with her or not.

So you should be all set no matter what epilogue slides you got:wizard:

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Not that it really matters, but is  going through the eluvian with her supposed to be on the plot summary
for a DA2 import? It wasn't for me and I'm just wondering if it's  bugged, or if it's just something that's imported but doesn't show (used end autosave). Thanks for the OP btw, helped a lot to avoid game  bugs.


I don't think so. I remember seeing that when DA2 came out and as I recall from a developer post, the plot flags from Witch Hunt aren't read in DA2. If you dig back in this thread you can probably find that discussion somewhere.

Modifié par Brockololly, 18 janvier 2013 - 09:55 .


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That was due to a bug that has since been fixed. All you need is to have autosave on so the game creates a save after you make your choice and it will be read by DA2 altough it doesn't change anything I've noticed. Hopefully, this is so it can be imported into DA3.
Last plot point of the summary.

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Modifié par MisterJB, 20 janvier 2013 - 11:21 .


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MisterJB wrote...

Betraying Morrigan is hardly my preferred course of action but it does lead to some badass moments.

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Oh Morrigan why are you so bad-ass ? :wub:

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MisterJB wrote...

That was due to a bug that has since been fixed. All you need is to have autosave on so the game creates a save after you make your choice and it will be read by DA2 altough it doesn't change anything I've noticed. Hopefully, this is so it can be imported into DA3.
Last plot point of the summary.

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I used the end auto save (looks exactly like your save), but it wasn't mentioned. Though I'm on the 360, was using the Witch Hunt DLC from the Ultimate Edition and became King. 

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New Morrigan Cosplay

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There’s a whole series:
www.facebook.com/Holland-Tayloe-Gedney

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One of my favorites...
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Randomly came across this rendering of somebody's Warden, Loghain, Nathaniel and Morrigan:
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By:Aldriann

Probably one of the better pictures I've seen of Morrigan looking like her in game self. Did a great job getting all of the facial features right.

Modifié par Brockololly, 02 février 2013 - 01:15 .


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@Brock whoever made those is a very talented person.

Loghain and Nathaniel look remarkably similar to their in game versions too.

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If the Warden becomes a voiced NPC in DAI, I hope the very first thing he says to the Inquisitor, should he have chosen to follow Morrigan through the Eluvian, is:

"Well, well, what have we here?"

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MisterJB wrote...

If the Warden becomes a voiced NPC in DAI, I hope the very first thing he says to the Inquisitor, should he have chosen to follow Morrigan through the Eluvian, is:

"Well, well, what have we here?"


Must be a family greeting or something...

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Brockololly wrote...

Randomly came across this rendering of somebody's Warden, Loghain, Nathaniel and Morrigan:
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By:Aldriann

Probably one of the better pictures I've seen of Morrigan looking like her in game self. Did a great job getting all of the facial features right.


stunning Morri drawing! thx Brock!

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I like the cosplay pics . A beautiful young woman.

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Hi there :)

I just released a mod you may be interested in. It's called "Sleep Until Dawn" and allows you to go to sleep in camp with your love interest, alone, or with dog. Hope you like it :) 

Mod Site on Nexus

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Brockololly wrote...

Randomly came across this rendering of somebody's Warden, Loghain, Nathaniel and Morrigan:
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By:Aldriann

Probably one of the better pictures I've seen of Morrigan looking like her in game self. Did a great job getting all of the facial features right.

I would very much like for Morrigan to look like this in DA3.

I mean she looks how she did in DAO, but a lot more appealing to the eyes, and she looks a little older, so it feels like a natural progression for her.
They're going to use Frostibite 3 so I'm pretty sure they'll need to take it up a notch with animations and facial expressions.