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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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LobselVith8

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MisterJB wrote...

If the Warden becomes a voiced NPC in DAI, I hope the very first thing he says to the Inquisitor, should he have chosen to follow Morrigan through the Eluvian, is:

"Well, well, what have we here?"


I wonder if the developers will address the ramifications of The Warden leaving everything behind to follow Morrigan through the Eluvian. Finn and Ariane seem to be the only two people who have some idea about what happened, and I'd assume they have the Dalish tome and the "gift" Morrigan left behind.

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Well, I don't see how they can. There are just too many ways of disapointing DAO fans so, I'd say we can expect a mention of the Warden but that's it. It probrably won't even diferentiate between the backgrounds.
I'm more curious whether the Warden disapearing is referring to stepping through the Eluvian or if Flemeth somehow got her hands on him and Hawke.

Anyway:
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Modifié par MisterJB, 25 avril 2013 - 07:57 .


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I bet Hawke ends up going through Merrill's eluvian and they're having a hell of a party with Morrigan and the Warden -- that is, if the data shows the majority of players went through the eluvian with Morrigan and, in separate data, the majority helped Merrill rebuild the mirror.

IOW, I've completely given up the idea that there will be any sort of continuity for my warden and my Hawke :D

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 avril 2013 - 03:37 .


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ejoslin wrote...

I bet Hawke ends up going through Merrill's eluvian and they're having a hell of a party with Morrigan and the Warden -- that is, if the data shows the majority of players went through the eluvian with Morrigan and, in separate data, the majority helped Merrill rebuild the mirror.

IOW, I've completely given up the idea that there will be any sort of continuity for my warden and my Hawke :D


I would have liked it if Merrill was able to finalize the construction of the Eluvian so we could get an answer as to what the Eluvians really are. The writers are so opauqe on what the Eluvian actually is (via the incredibly vague dialogue from Merrill and Morrigan) that I wonder if the developers even know what the Eluvians are themselves.

I wouldn't mind it if the story of my Warden and Hawke wasn't continued in future Dragon Age games.

If Morrigan does return in Inquisition, I wonder if The Warden's decision to reunite with her would be addressed. While I think MisterJB has a point in how the fans can end up disappointed if they tried to bring The Warden or the Champion back, I'd like to think that decision wouldn't be undone simply to explain Morrigan appearing solo in the next game.

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If Morrigan does return and the Warden did go through the Eluvian with her the developers vould inlude a dialogue response something along the lines of: "The warden place beyond your reach, caring for our child" if you could question her about the where abouts of the Grey Warden. It takes into account the decision and leaves the warden out of the story, with Morrigan doing whatever plans they have for her, if she's included in DA:I

If I remeber correctly (correct me on this if I'm wrong, it's been a year or two since I'ved played DA:O) you can only go through the Eluvian with her if you romanced her and had the OGB with her so it would be easy enough to do without causing too much upset.

Modifié par Angangseh, 01 mai 2013 - 04:41 .


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I'm pretty sure you can go through the Eluvian even if the baby is not the OGB -- but the warden probably at least needs to have had a child with her.

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ejoslin wrote...

I'm pretty sure you can go through the Eluvian even if the baby is not the OGB -- but the warden probably at least needs to have had a child with her.


Yes, Morrigan remarks on the fact that they have a child, even if the Hero of Ferelden didn't participate in performing the Dark Ritual.

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My copy of "The World of Thedas" finally arrived and may I just say, Morrigan is looking just resplendent in the cover.

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The first humans claimed to have been driven from their home by a "shadow goddess".
What if this was Flemeth who discovered humanity had survived and has been working for centuries in an attempt to complete her genocide?

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MisterJB wrote...

The first humans claimed to have been driven from their home by a "shadow goddess".
What if this was Flemeth who discovered humanity had survived and has been working for centuries in an attempt to complete her genocide?


It's possible that could be Flemeth, although it makes me wonder why she told Morrigan a different version of her tale (than the one Leliana tells the protagonist about Bann Conobar and Osen).

Why do you think she would she help The Warden stop the Fifth Blight, if she wants to eradicate humanity? For the Old God Baby?

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Hello, I'd just like to drop in here and leave this: ''-Melo stated that Morrigan was critical to the world, and so is Warden, therefore we will definitely be hearing about them or seeing more of them in the future.'', this is the answer Melo gave to my question during the live Q & A session in Pax 2011. Speculate away.

Edit:
I also just remembered Mike Laidlaw telling us we'd be seeing more of Morrigan in the future, and when the crowd cheered to that, he said: ''And that's why'', so I defenitely think they are taking fan feedback into consideration when developing DA3 (remember that Claudia Black may not wish to be the VA of her character again, so we may see some1 else voice acting Morrigan, but I THINK I'd be okay with thatt). The situation looks grim for the Warden though :( I don't think we'll be seeing him/her, but I am hoping we do.

Modifié par Androme, 05 mai 2013 - 11:21 .


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Well for me, if anyone other than Claudia Black were to voice act her...then Morrigan would just cease to be Morrigan. Switching VAs worked for Mordin, but that was easily hidden, with our favorite witch, not so much.

I'm already dreading what they're going to do with her, if she's brought back having lost much faith in BW since Origins. If they were forced to switch out VAs, then I would just prefer they leave her be.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Well for me, if anyone other than Claudia Black were to voice act her...then Morrigan would just cease to be Morrigan. Switching VAs worked for Mordin, but that was easily hidden, with our favorite witch, not so much.

I'm already dreading what they're going to do with her, if she's brought back having lost much faith in BW since Origins. If they were forced to switch out VAs, then I would just prefer they leave her be.


man don't say such things :crying:

edit:
Melo mentioned that Morrigan was ''critical'' to the world'' and so is the Warden, since the Warden can possibly be dead, then they must mean the Warden (Orlesian or HoF) in Awakening, and something said Warden did in Awakening (This is, of course, if they still stand by this statement that these two characters are ''critical'' to the world) that made him ''critical'', I assume this has to do with the Architects experiments on freeing the Darkspawn.

Modifié par Androme, 07 mai 2013 - 05:04 .


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LobselVith8 wrote...
It's possible that could be Flemeth, although it makes me wonder why she told Morrigan a different version of her tale (than the one Leliana tells the protagonist about Bann Conobar and Osen).

"I want to exterminate your kind." would probrably not endear Morrigan to her mother. It could have just been a cautionary tale.

Why do you think she would she help The Warden stop the Fifth Blight, if she wants to eradicate humanity? For the Old God Baby?

She might wish for the dragons to rule Thedas again but the Blight destroys the land itself. Since she is not a Grey Warden, she needed one to destroy the Archdemon while preserving the soul of one of the draconic gods.

#14890
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Haven't been here for a while. Just saying hi to my fellow DA fans!

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Morrigan does say that what you and her thought about Flemeth was "so very wrong" or words to that effect, and she even sounds afraid. That does fit with Flemeth being some ancient evil out of legend, although if she is in fact an Old God then that would fit as well.

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Yo people Morrigan is in the DA3 trailer.

I might have been interested about 2 years ago but not so much now. They kind of mangled her character model IMO, especially considering Varric and Cassandra looked decent in the trailer. Whatever.

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I'm far more concerned about what her story will be and how we (as gamers) are able to deal with it.

To recap what has been said in the last pages of this long thread: morrigan without warden: can't be good. That's the only thing I'm eager to see and how it turns out, all other stuff is secondary. Especially when we get some new unneeded protagonist.

Modifié par Jean-Funk Van Damme, 10 juin 2013 - 10:09 .


#14894
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Brockololly wrote...

Yo people Morrigan is in the DA3 trailer.

I might have been interested about 2 years ago but not so much now. They kind of mangled her character model IMO, especially considering Varric and Cassandra looked decent in the trailer. Whatever.


I wasn't too impressed with her character model either, what bugged me especially were the addition of beauty marks/moles on her face. However I am guessing all the model we see are most likley going to be altered and tweaked a bit. I mean look at the first time we saw Isabela and how her face changed at release.

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It was good to see Morrigan again altought I'm also not overly fond of her redesign. Now it remains to be seen if her important in this game will be like Flemeth's "importance" in DA2.

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Brockololly wrote...

Yo people Morrigan is in the DA3 trailer.

I might have been interested about 2 years ago but not so much now. They kind of mangled her character model IMO, especially considering Varric and Cassandra looked decent in the trailer. Whatever.


Personally, I like her redesign. It seems to incorporate her DAO incarnation while making her more SacredAshes-like. 

I also see just a small hint of Claudia Black in the face.

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The rumor always was she would turn up in Orlais. The silly players who stabbed her in witch hunt got retconned. No suprise. Some are silly enough to say they'll try to kill her again. Of course Bioware will retcon again for DA4 if there is one. She's so ugly in DAI. Hope they change that.

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So, who believes that dragon was mommy dearest? The possibility that Flemeth is looking to commit genocide on the human species seems incresingly likely to me.

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So in the trailer are we joining Morrigan in her quest?

#14900
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No. We're the Inquisitor. Morrigan will likely be an npc. Not a party member.