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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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#14926
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TheDesolateWolf wrote...

I'm not too concerned with Morrigan's appearance right now. For all I care they could have made her look like an old leper, and it wouldn't have bothered me all that much. Despite the underwhelming amount of good mods available for DA:2, i'm sure there will be many mods to change her appearance once the game is released.
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What concerns me is the fact they're using her at all in the trailers. Wasn't it an option to kill her at the end of Witch Hunt? Unless they pull a fast one and say, "well technically all you did was poke her in the belly, and you don't actually see her die, so doom on you." Dunno...I love Morrigan don't get me wrong, she was always my default love interest, but something like this makes me wonder if they're going to do what they did in Mass Effect 3 and have the game play out their way, regardless of your actions in the previous two installments. Dunno...just being paranoid I guess...ME3 and DA:2 left really bad tastes in my mouth.


I don't think she really died, even if you did stab her. The fact that she falls through a veil, and then appears in the trailer confirms this to me. I think they added that opition because I think Morrigan will have a "side" towards the beginning of the game, depending on how much or how little you influenced her in Da:O.

Modifié par XGrlGamerX, 29 juillet 2013 - 03:48 .


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The new GameInformer article focuses on Morrigan.
http://www.gameinfor...nd-present.aspx

It's interesting; it gives a window into how Morrigan came to be; and promising; according to the article, Morrigan will play a "significant role" and "Inquisition is her story".

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 Also posted on the Dragon Age Facebook Page: "Here's the first in-game shot of Morrigan from Dragon Age: Inquisition!"

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Modifié par Angangseh, 12 août 2013 - 09:33 .


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Looks like she did go to Orlais and lived the high life after WH.

Modifié par MisterJB, 12 août 2013 - 09:54 .


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Angangseh wrote...

 Also posted on the Dragon Age Facebook Page: "Here's the first in-game shot of Morrigan from Dragon Age: Inquisition!"

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And now I have a new wallpaper...now I'll have to find some suitable soundbites from Origins for the start up and the turning off the computer. Read the article...they are respecting the Warden's romance and other decisions though who knows or maybe even unlikely that the warden will appear with her in the game....

#14931
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Hmm, I don't think about this too much, but could potentially mean that she would be conflicting on the main player? Maybe she has intentions that she wouldn't reveal right away? Potentially even making it into the role of an enemy to some point (Who could probably be converted back)?

I doubt it, since it seems like she will be the one narrating, so it's unlikely she'll be placed in a villanous role just to lose, and that's something a lot of people wouldn't like, but I'm really wondering what her methods are, and as of now it could be anything.

#14932
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Really dislike how they've mangled her face. Looks next to nothing like her model in Origins. Totally different shaped head, smaller lips, eyes are the wrong shape, nose looks really small... its not even that she looks older, it just looks like a totally different model and nobody looked at how her face looked like in Origins in game.

Maybe its the angle, and certainly the technical fidelity looks great but the basic structure of her face and general facial features are completely different than Origins. Makes it look like a poor fanmade facial morph.

Modifié par Brockololly, 13 août 2013 - 03:35 .


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Eh, I have to respectfully disagree. I really like the new Morrigan model. Her eyes are finally in proportion to the rest of her head. The texture on the clothing is really amazing, too. The old Bioware engine was starting to show its age.

Not trying to start a flame war, just my two cents.

Here's a link to the same pic, but you can blow it up some:

http://www.neoseeker...ngame-morrigan/

#14934
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Hnielsen wrote...

Eh, I have to respectfully disagree. I really like the new Morrigan model. Her eyes are finally in proportion to the rest of her head. The texture on the clothing is really amazing, too. The old Bioware engine was starting to show its age.


Again, I think Frostbite is great technically speaking. But it seems the new Morrigan model has little to do with the old one in terms of general features. Even if they were adapting her features from Origins, here it doesn't look like they took the general shapes and proportions at all but instead just started from scratch.

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MisterJB wrote...

The new GameInformer article focuses on Morrigan.
http://www.gameinfor...nd-present.aspx

It's interesting; it gives a window into how Morrigan came to be; and promising; according to the article, Morrigan will play a "significant role" and "Inquisition is her story".


This line from that article:  Male players are given the option of conceiving a child with Morrigan themselves, but even if they refuse, the other Grey Wardens of the world may not have the same resolve. 

I really hope that doesn't mean that another gray warden did it if the player refused.  Hopefully that was just a way of saying Alistair/Loghain could do it in his place.

Edit: You know, with both Morrigan and Leliana going to be in DA3, it would be very interesting if Leliana were hunting Morrigan to kill her.

Modifié par ejoslin, 13 août 2013 - 11:42 .


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@Brockololly

Perhaps they did not care for the original model. I have read numerous interviews where the Bioshock artists have complained that, because of the limitations of previous engines, their visions never translated well into the game. Looks pretty much the same to me. It's not like they turned her into a red-headed viking or something. Besides, consistency has never been one of Bioware's strong points. The Morrigan in the DA:O trailer looks absolutely nothing like the npc in the game.

@ ejoslin

I think it makes sense for the god-baby to be canon, regardless of whether the player chose it or not. It seems unlikely that, if the player-character refused to assist in the ritual, Morrigan would just sigh in resignation and go party it up in Orlais. 

There is precedent for such things. If it were up to me, Leliana would have died and stayed dead in DA:O.

Modifié par Hnielsen, 13 août 2013 - 02:53 .


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But if some other warden participated in the ritual, the gray warden wouldn't have had to die. It would make every single warden death and every single "Alistair died for me" death completely meaningless.

I really hope they don't go that route.

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Mr.Gaider already said, when presented with that article, that he is not sure where the magazine got that from because if the Warden refused the Ritual, there is no Old God Baby.

Modifié par MisterJB, 13 août 2013 - 07:32 .


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ejoslin wrote...

This line from that article:  Male players are given the option of conceiving a child with Morrigan themselves, but even if they refuse, the other Grey Wardens of the world may not have the same resolve. 

I really hope that doesn't mean that another gray warden did it if the player refused.  Hopefully that was just a way of saying Alistair/Loghain could do it in his place.


As stressed by DG, if the Warden doesn't do the Dark Ritual (or get Alistair/Loghain to do it), it isn't done. 

The writer's choice of words is just very poor.

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Ah good. I haven't kept up on all the DA3 threads. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

I still do think a Leliana/Morrigan subplot in DA3 would be amazing. Even for people who didn't romance both, it was so clear that they disliked each other. And since both will play roles, Morrigan's pivotal, and Leliana's possibly so, it could be great.

Edit: I really was highly critical of them bringing Leliana back, and am a bit annoyed that they did since she could be killed off in a couple of different ways, but I'm not going to stomp my feet about it.  I'm just hoping they do something very interesting with it.

Modifié par ejoslin, 13 août 2013 - 06:00 .


#14941
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I just hope that Morrigan's child isn't relegated to a footnote. If you chose to engage in the ritual, it should have some impact on the world, other than Morrigan saying, "He is resting in his crib beyond the Eluvian."

#14942
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Borrowed this from another thread.

This image is apparently the pre-render version of the picture below which we saw in the E3 trailer. In my opinion I like the pre-rendered one much more. It looks a lot more Morrigan-esque but still there could definatley be more changes to make her look more akin to Orgins.

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#14943
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All the stuff about Morrigan in the GameInformer article reminded me of how well she is written. I still don't have her figured out. And I guess the fact that this thread is approaching 600 pages means that there's still lots of room for discussion.

With people talking as well in threads about where the Warden or Hawke might be, I felt bittersweet that the only Warden I had who would have wanted to go with Morrigan at the end of Witch Hunt never had an option to do so. The only Warden I had who was really well-disposed towards Morrigan was a female city elf who'd loved Alistair but couldn't give him a child, so she was really keen to help Morrigan raise the child she'd had with Alistair. There was really very little for Wardens who didn't romance Morrigan in Witch Hunt. That wouldn't have been so bad except for the fact that, by default, it kinda excludes all female Wardens. But I really got the sense that the Warden and Morrigan could be friends, even if they weren't romantically involved.

#14944
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Hopefully the way they have her hair covering her face suggests what they currently have is maybe more of a placeholder, and they will work on the finer details before release.

Alistair's minor cameo caused a pretty big fuss when he was so disfigured - seeing as Morrigan is supposed to be a significant part of DA:I, you'd think that putting the time into making her look as similar as possible to DA:O would be a wise investment of resources. And no, I don't just mean the ageing thing - her entire facial structure is quite a bit off in those pictures.

Modifié par DuskWarden, 16 août 2013 - 05:38 .


#14945
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 Hi everyone!

It's been a long time since I played DA:O. After talking to a friend who finished the game a few days ago, I realised how much i missed it and I think I'm ready for a second playthrough. Also, I'll finally have the chance to play the DLC's, which makes me even more excited about playing the game again! This time, I want to concentrate on Morrigan. I know there is/was a bug related to her story and the way an Origins save game can be imported to Awakening and Witch Hunt. So, I have a few questions about what I should do and how. 

My goal is to romance her, accept the ritual and then play the DLC's to see what happens. So, my questions are:

1) Is it possible to get an epilogue that mentions both the "Ring" and Morrigan’s "sorrow and regret" and at the same
time keeping her status “In Love”; Imho, this would be the most interesting and promising way to close the story in
Origins. So, any help about how I could achieve that would be much appreciated.

2) I guess that after Origins I should play Awakening first and then Witch Hunt, right; So probably the way to go is import my character to Awakening, finish it, and then import my Awakening character to Witch Hunt. Is that correct; Which bugs should I be aware of and what should I do in order to keep the characters history intact without losing anything in the process;

I have a couple more questions before I begin my new journey, but its not Morrigan related so I wish I can find help in another thread.
Thank you in advance. :)

Modifié par Anchron, 17 août 2013 - 06:47 .


#14946
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Anchron wrote...So, my questions are:

1) Is it possible to get an epilogue that mentions both the "Ring" and Morrigan’s "sorrow and regret" and at the same
time keeping her status “In Love”; Imho, this would be the most interesting and promising way to close the story in
Origins. So, any help about how I could achieve that would be much appreciated.


I think? I'd refer you the first post in this thread as I've forgotten some of the finer details. I think if the catch was that if you talked to Morrigan after doing the Dark Ritual, that sets her state such that you get the ring and sorrow/regret epilogue but that also sets her in game status to the relationship being over. That doesn't mean much though. That will only mean you likely won't get the epilogue in Awakening that mentions your Warden heading to Orlais to look for her. It won't mess up Witch Hunt.

Anchron wrote..
2) I guess that after Origins I should play Awakening first and then Witch Hunt, right; So probably the way to go is import my character to Awakening, finish it, and then import my Awakening character to Witch Hunt. Is that correct; Which bugs should I be aware of and what should I do in order to keep the characters history intact without losing anything in the process;

Yup. Go Awakening then Witch Hunt last. As I said, if you get the ring & sorrow/regret epilogue in Origins, you likely won't get the Morrigan specific epilogue in Awakening which isn't a big deal. Witch Hunt was patched after it came out to fix the bug that was there where Morrigan wouldn't recognize the Dark Ritual, so you should be bug free and fine there I think. Just be sure to keep MOrrigan's ring in your inventory during Witch Hunt as you can get a nice moment there with it.

#14947
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She looks fine to me in Inquisition. They just seem to be generally inconsistent with how she looks for the most part though. Her look varies from minimal to significant in her DAO artwork, DAO in-game render and Sacred Ashes appearance.

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Is it me, or does the Morrigan romance along with the Witch Hunt DLC go surprisingly well with this poem by T.S. Eliot?

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Found an enjoyable interview on youtube with Cameron Lee. Skip ahead to 4:53 if you want to hear a small teaser on Morrigan's baby. No major spoilers, but sounds like he will be in the game or at least mentioned if you made that decision in DA:O.



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Of course I didn't like the way she looked in the trailer, have said so, and have gotten in trouble for it.
shrugs.
Hope they redesign her to look more like DAO's Morrigan.