Master Shiori wrote...
To be fair, Gaider said that the hardest part of his job is watching others cut out the stuff he wrote, so it's safe to say that removing all these Morrigan scenes wasn't his idea.
The plot hammer part is probably spot on, except it's a 2hander.
Brockololly wrote...
Here's an idea: Maybe this whole "Darkspawn Chronicles" thing is just like the 1st chapter in a little ongoing episodic content type deal. It is "chronicles" plural, right? So maybe this just the 1st chapter and it gets continued on in later months? Sort of like how they had that Dragon Age Journeys flash game structured. Still no idea what it would be about, but doing something like that could be a bit different and liven things up I suppose.
Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 05 mai 2010 - 01:07 .
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Hey Morrigan lovers! LadyDamodred wrote us a treat!
" The only time he ever found the solitude he sought was at night, in the silences of his own mind. So he took to roaming, determined to find and hold onto that quiet when he could. First walking, then riding, as if movement and distance could help him hold onto the memories that faded a little more each day; memories that were all the more cherished because they faded.
He turned and left his chambers silently, waving off the guards who would follow. It was a good night for a ride. Making his way to the stables, he saddled his horse and chose a new course through the streets of Denerim.
Like all the other night before, the streets were quiet, the night air cool and still. The movement of the horse underneath him, the quiet sounds of the few people still up soothed him. He eventually came to the harbor and sat for awhile, looking out at the moon playing in the water.
It came suddenly, a fierce burning that made him clutch his hand in shock. The plain gold band she had given looked no different. But as his hand grasped it, he felt the regret, the sorrow, the longing.
It was over too soon, coming in a sudden burst and leaving just as quickly, but he knew. At that moment, she had felt what he had felt since the day she left. And within him, something let go; something that demanded he be strong, that he accept what she had chosen for them.
And he wept."
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Brockololly wrote...
Here's an idea: Maybe this whole "Darkspawn Chronicles" thing is just like the 1st chapter in a little ongoing episodic content type deal. It is "chronicles" plural, right? So maybe this just the 1st chapter and it gets continued on in later months? Sort of like how they had that Dragon Age Journeys flash game structured. Still no idea what it would be about, but doing something like that could be a bit different and liven things up I suppose.
Vicious wrote...
What I mean is, Awakening dropped the ball what with all the cut content and bugs regarding epilogues. .
Swoo wrote...
Vicious wrote...
What I mean is, Awakening dropped the ball what with all the cut content and bugs regarding epilogues. .
Yeah, I can't defend Awakening at all. The only things I think it had going for it (in the excuse department), was it had something like a tenth of the people working on it, nowhere near the timeframe to get polished, and was a good story until it just decided to end, ruining it instantly.
In my mind, it's just something that happened on the side to some Orlesian gent while my Warden was playing tracker through some mountains.
Brockololly wrote...
Swoo wrote...
Vicious wrote...
What I mean is, Awakening dropped the ball what with all the cut content and bugs regarding epilogues. .
Yeah, I can't defend Awakening at all. The only things I think it had going for it (in the excuse department), was it had something like a tenth of the people working on it, nowhere near the timeframe to get polished, and was a good story until it just decided to end, ruining it instantly.
In my mind, it's just something that happened on the side to some Orlesian gent while my Warden was playing tracker through some mountains.
Yeah, Awakening would have been better if they limited you to the Orlesian Warden- it seemed to me that Bioware tried to shove in the continuity with the DAO Warden and it just doesn't feel right. But of course if they limited it to the Orlesian Warden then I'm sure everyone would have been throwing a fit over the DAO Warden not being in it.
You're right about the much smaller team too- skim through the credits and see how few people were actually on Awakening and they got it out in about 1 year and thats fairly impressive IMO. Hopefully DA2 with a bigger team and budget can be bigger and better than Origins, not unlike BG2 being better than BG1.
Modifié par Master Shiori, 05 mai 2010 - 09:31 .
Modifié par Brockololly, 05 mai 2010 - 04:18 .
No problem Knight, here's another one showing another branch where Morrigan leaves if you fail the persuasion check regarding Flemeth's death. This is one of my favourite parts of the restored content, it really underlines Morrigan's intentions regarding wanting Flemeth gone imo, and features some superb VA work to boot. (I used a respec potion here to ensure that I would fail the check)KnightofPhoenix wrote...
@ Terra_Ex, sorry it's belated,
but I just watched your videos of the cut Morrigan scenes. Great
job!
It's a catch 22 situation really, they were hugely ambitious with DA, and as a result certain things were simply beyond the scope of the project and had to be reined in. This resulted in disjointed elements such as the DR. If Bioware persists in making cuts to late game scenes that ultimately result in said game ignoring everything I've done up till that point, I will lose faith in BW once again since it becomes evident that my choices within the game are meaningless. They'd hit gold with BG then went off on a something of a tangent with NWN. The ME team have my continued support thanks to providing a strong storyline where I can see the consequences of my actions Dragon Age could go either way depending on the content of DA2 and the resolution of plot threads. Based on the DR cuts and Awakening's host of bugs, I'm inclined to treat any new Dragon Age product with great trepidation - I'm wondering if romancing character X, or completing quest Y is actually worth the effort. Will my actions actuallySwoo wrote...
Brockololly wrote...
Here's an
idea: Maybe this whole "Darkspawn Chronicles" thing is just like the 1st chapter in a little ongoing episodic content type deal. It is "chronicles" plural, right? So maybe this just the 1st chapter and it gets continued on in later months? Sort of like how they had that Dragon Age Journeys flash game structured. Still no idea what it would be about, but doing something like that could be a bit different and liven things up I suppose.
That would be rather neat. A bridge of 3-4 DLC's that connect the end of DA1 with the start of DA2. I hope they just brush Awakenings under the rug, honestly. I want to seethe Architect come back in DA2, he really is the kind of threat/face the Darkspawn need in the next game to become 'Random Orc Encounter Number Forty-Two'.
And never count Bioware out because something
is 'too hard' to pull off. Back in 98-99, everyone said they were
nuts and it would never happen when they hinted at play-times in the
three-digits of the second Baldur's Gate, and then they went and did it.
And if Torment hadn't come out, it probably would have went down as the
best RPG I've ever played. Until they say otherwise I'm banking on a
metaplot reading the flags off DA1, and a second one for new users.
Either
which way, I know I'll end up buying it. I can't resist you Bioware.
Ugh, whenever I hear "alternate universe" I immediately think "bad fanfiction". In my experience things get tagged as alternate universe when they aren't strong enough to stand on their own merits. Still, it looks different enough from the previous offerings that it may be worth taking a look...Brockololly wrote...
Ahh... so yeah Darkspawn Chronicles= play as Hurlock in alternate universe where your Warden kicked the can in their Joining and command Darkspawn during the Siege of Denerim
http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/
Meh... I appreciate the creativity, but I don't know. Its like all the other DLCs- no story impact at all.
Modifié par Terra_Ex, 05 mai 2010 - 07:47 .
Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 05 mai 2010 - 07:46 .
Master Shiori wrote...
I'm not sure if importing our characters level, equipment or abilities from Awakening into DA2 would be a smart move, especially considering how powerful the character is at level 30.
Also, Bioware has been asking the community for their opinion on classes, skills and specializations so it's likely they plan to change a few things for DA2, similar to how they changed class skills in ME2.
If we do get the import option for DA2 it'll probably be similar to how it was handled in ME1 -> ME2:
You choices and aproval may transfer, but everything else starts from scratch.
Barbarossa2010 wrote...
You know, regarding Awakenings, I might be a bit of a contrarian here, but I actually enjoyed it; maybe because I really expected nothing from it. Although, I was supremely disappointed in the half-attempt to maintain continuity (i.e. Wynne barely knew me and I happen to like Wynne) with Origins.
I however did like the action and being a Shield and Sword warrior, I really, really liked the new talents, especially Massacre, Peon's Plight, Juggernaut and Grievous Insult. There were some memorable things about the game although granted, the dialogue system, continuity and character development were not among them.
Barbarossa2010 wrote...
I think the only thing that will be flagged for use out of Awakenings will be whether the Warden spared the Architect or not. I don't think the epilogues were for any purpose other than to give imported characters some sense of continuity.
Barbarossa2010 wrote...
Regarding Darkspawn Chronicles, I'll be taking a pass. I've stated that Ferelden, Blights and even Thedas are not the gravitational centers of Dragon Age for me, only my Wardens and his companions matter to this player. Everything else is backdrop. Playing Darkspawn in particular holds no attraction for me whatsoever. But I do hope that the hardcore fans get what they want from it.
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Brockololly wrote...
Barbarossa2010 wrote...
I think the only thing that will be flagged for use out of Awakenings will be whether the Warden spared the Architect or not. I don't think the epilogues were for any purpose other than to give imported characters some sense of continuity.
If we play on as the Warden, I've got to think that the Architect decision is the only one that will matter coming out of Awakening. Even if you killed him, they could just throw some other Disciple in a similar role too, if need be.
Modifié par AwesomeEffect2, 05 mai 2010 - 09:27 .
Master Shiori wrote...
Not sure how I feel about the new DLC.
Although I can apreciate the humor of killing my companions as a Darkspawn, I can't really bring myself to harm Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran and all the rest.
It's a funny idea, but way overpriced for what it really gives.
Modifié par Master Shiori, 05 mai 2010 - 09:34 .
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Master Shiori wrote...
Not sure how I feel about the new DLC.
Although I can apreciate the humor of killing my companions as a Darkspawn, I can't really bring myself to harm Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran and all the rest.
It's a funny idea, but way overpriced for what it really gives.
I said it before, and I'll say it again.
Had this DLC been about a Disciple recently freed by the Architect prior to the events of Awakening, showing us the beginning of the darkspawn civil war and shedding light on the Architect and how he leads or guides his bretheren, then I would have gladly paid 10-15$ for it (depending on lenght).
Furthermore, rumours of an Alistair / Morrigan romance pissed me off.
Brockololly wrote...
I always thought it would be cool if some of the DLC could be sort of episodic in content and maybe play as a new character who shows up in the sequel as a companion. But I've lowered my expectations with the DLC- seems best to just expect the DLC to be fun little distractions while waiting for the next expansion or sequel.
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