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[Vlada47]

She always looks scary/strange in all the trailers... why do they give her a face like that? (while she is beautiful in-game)

 

 

 

I don't know... I don't mind. After all, half the time my own expression looks like I'm ready to butcher somebody.  I actually have to concentrate on looking at least reasonably friendly, when talking to somebody... 

 

Besides, "looking scary" doesn't always equate "not looking beautiful"...  

[Vanalia]

Thing is, the Warden has the option not to kill Flemeth or even listen to Morrigan's request.

And yet the game decides that happened no matter what?

Yes, just like Leliana will be alive in Inquisition even if you make her die in a previous game (I don't remember where she can die, never tried)

 

 

And about Morrigan, on the pictures I posted I think she looks weird and not beautiful. We are lucky that she looks better in-game.

[Illegitimus]

Thing is, the Warden has the option not to kill Flemeth or even listen to Morrigan's request.

And yet the game decides that happened no matter what?

 

It's not that it decides it happened.  It's that it doesn't especially matter if it happens, except as it bears on their relationship.   

[BurningLizard]

Yes, just like Leliana will be alive in Inquisition even if you make her die in a previous game (I don't remember where she can die, never tried)

 

 

And about Morrigan, on the pictures I posted I think she looks weird and not beautiful. We are lucky that she looks better in-game.

It's during the sacred ashes quest. If you bring her along and defile the ashes then Leliana turns on you.

[line_genrou]

Yup, Kieran's face is 100% Morrigan. Just put some lipstick on him and you'll see.

Like I said before, the most we can do is to play a brown haired Warden.

 Excuse you

Kieran looks like my warden

[Daylen Amell]

This is the best Morrigan/Kieran fan art I've seen so far.

[Uccio]

Lucky you,

 

Kieran looks nothing like the Warden I created.

 

Same here, but maybe he looks more like his mother than father. That´s the way I head canon it.

[Kukuru]

 

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If the Flemeth who appears to Hawke is prior to the meeting with the Warden (the appointment she mentions she must keep in her initial meeting with him) then she isn't sure what the outcome will be.  It could be Flemeth only sees lines of probability and acts according to the warning.  It's an elegant solution Bioware came up with that encompasses both scenarios if Flemeth is killed by the Warden or if he negotiates for the book peacefully so they could have continuity between stories.

 

Since this hasn't happened yet when this piece was put into the object she gives Hawke, she is from that time prior.  She has no first hand knowledge of her ultimate fate.  And this leaves it deliberately vague since Bioware won't won't know what the player has done either, and keeps the lines of dialogue under manageable levels.  I can't imagine Kate Mulgrew came cheap.

Morrigan even tells the player that it's not a permanent solution, Flemeth won't truly be dead, it just buys her a little time to come up with something more permanent to deal with the problem.

 

Spoiler DA2:

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That would mean that there are two different Flemeth at the same time, like two different entities/persons with no sharing conscience. 

 

Spoiler Inquisition:

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Looking at it that way it would make sense, and it would hint that Flemeth is not dead at the end of Inquisition since she could create another one like in DA2. Woah you gave me a lot of theories to think of.

[Kukuru]

Yes, just like Leliana will be alive in Inquisition even if you make her die in a previous game (I don't remember where she can die, never tried)

 

 

And about Morrigan, on the pictures I posted I think she looks weird and not beautiful. We are lucky that she looks better in-game.

And Anders, and Justice. You can kill them too in Awakening and they will come back in DA2 whenever you want it or not. Though their fake deaths makes more sense.

 

Undead!Leliana had a funny ending on Trespasser (spoilers):

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About Morrigan I agree, she looks a lot better ingame.

[sylvanaerie]

Spoiler DA2:

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That would mean that there are two different Flemeth at the same time, like two different entities/persons with no sharing conscience. 

 

Spoiler Inquisition:

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Looking at it that way it would make sense, and it would hint that Flemeth is not dead at the end of Inquisition since she could create another one like in DA2. Woah you gave me a lot of theories to think of.

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Yep that's what I'm thinking too.  The entire time I saw her I kept thinking, which version of her is this one?  Bodies are such limiting things...

[Miss Golightly]

Here's how I reason out the whole Flemeth amulet thing in my head.

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Flemeth created a horcrux (to put it into Harry Potter terms) because she believed that there was a possibility that Morrigan would turn on her. She put a piece of her soul in the amulet so she couldn't technically be killed. It was a backup plan. In the event that the Warden came and "killed" Flemeth, the essence that Hawke released will become Flemeth or it will return to her lifeless body.

If the Warden did not kill Flemeth, that essence returns to her regardless.

"Bodies are such limiting things", I don't think the Flemeth Hawke releases is "whole" unless DAO hut Flemeth is dead. I don't think there are two Flemeths.

[Miss Golightly]

This is the best Morrigan/Kieran fan art I've seen so far.

 

Oh, you have no idea how badly I want a lithograph/print of this piece lol.

[Qun00]

Same here, but maybe he looks more like his mother than father. That´s the way I head canon it.

There's no need to headcanon it.

It is the truth.

[Uccio]

Yeah, it works that way too.

[Uccio]

 

I like this one, has that power thing in it.

 

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[Qun00]

Yeah, it works that way too.

Like a fish needs a snorkel, yes.

[Aren]

Same here, but maybe he looks more like his mother than father. That´s the way I head canon it.

To me he is similar to Oren and a little bit to Fergus for his hair, his default appearance seem to be more tied to that family,or at least this was my impression.

For example i cannot see him as an Aeducan,booth Bhelen,his brother his father Endrin are too blonde,it's an Aeducan trait.

Also Alistair(even if his mother had black hair),Cailan,Maric,Arland,Chalenad (Basically all the thierin family have this blond hair trait) .

Both Flemeth and Morrigan didn't have brown/red hair

[Uccio]

Could be, thought the canon in DAO was a dalish elf, wasn´t it? 

[Vanalia]

The death of the character in the Fade in DA:I seems fake to me, just because they say (when you click on who will be sacrificed) that this person will probably die... Not "will die". And we don't see that person dying. So whoever it is, he/she might come back, as well.

So there are many characters in the game who should have died but still come back

[Qun00]

Do you guys have any idea why Flemeth and Morrigan have yellow eyes?

The death of the character in the Fade in DA:I seems fake to me, just because they say (when you click on who will be sacrificed) that this person will probably die... Not "will die". And we don't see that person dying. So whoever it is, he/she might come back, as well.

So there are many characters in the game who should have died but still come back

Spoiler

In Trespasser, you only get the epilogue with Hawke helping Varric with being a viscount if the former was not left in the Fade.

So yeah, I'd say that whatever character is left behind definitely dies.

But who knows? You can always come back as lyrium ghost!

[Kukuru]

Do you guys have any idea why Flemeth and Morrigan have yellow eyes?

Spoiler

In Trespasser, you only get the epilogue with Hawke helping Varric with being a viscount if the former was not left in the Fade.

So yeah, I'd say that whatever character is left behind definitely dies.

But who knows? You can always come back as lyrium ghost!

 

It could be but I'm not sure. In DA2 Flemeth say "We stand upon the precipice of change. The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly."

 

Inquisition spoiler:

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Since Inquisition i thought that she might be referring to Here Lies the Abyss quest, so in my main state i left Hawke behind. If in further games it is stated that the one who stays in the Fade dies then i will switch him with Loghain.

 

Good thing we don't need saves anymore in order to import xD

[sylvanaerie]

It could be but I'm not sure. In DA2 Flemeth say "We stand upon the precipice of change. The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly."

 

Inquisition spoiler:

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Since Inquisition i thought that she might be referring to Here Lies the Abyss quest, so in my main state i left Hawke behind. If in further games it is stated that the one who stays in the Fade dies then i will switch him with Loghain.

 

Good thing we don't need saves anymore in order to import xD

 

I just thought she was referring to DA2 spoiler:  

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the spark of the Mage/Templar war in Act 3 (which has a lot more impact on Thedas than who got left behind in the fade).  "The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss" meaning change was coming, Hawke was going to be there when it happens.  She could either leap and fail.  Or fly (metaphorically).

 

Prophecy is such an iffy thing at best, and wide open to interpretation.  Cheap talk from a dragon...

[Vanalia]

Maybe that sacrificed character doesn't come back in Inquisition Trespasser because he/she is trapped in the Fade. I would like that.

[SgtSteel91]

Spoiler

In Trespasser you go back into the Fade and you can find Chapter ??? of Hard in Hightown that heavily implies the person left in the Fade is dead but rests peacefully.

[Aren]

My Warden came from a noble and privileged background. Born and raised as "the spare" in the Cousland family, he was never expected to take over Highever as teryn (though some said he would have been good at the job), and in some regards, he felt without an identity compared to his elder brother because of this. As such, he'd turned into a bit of a playboy (hence having a one night stand with Iona). I got the feeling from the origin story that his mother had been trying to marry him off for some time, but had been unsuccessful. 

 

I picked the same Origin,the same gender but my Warden lifestyle was less headcanon end and more akin to the game revelations.

A Warden which is from the Cousland family isn't in my mind second or a spare to anyone much less to Fergus,since pretty much some soldiers,Eleanor and maybe even Bryce believe that the younger is indeed better than the eldest

(which is a shame for the nobility mindset) not that Fergus is all that bad....

The Noble Cousland is a strong Warrior/rogue who use to win several tournaments and competitions in Ferelden,so your identity among the nobles and commoners is pretty much stronger than the one of Fergus(who however is the eldest and more important for tradition) Loghain in person already know you or your reputation since he said at Ostagar that you look familiar for him,a face that he already saw.

There are of course some old nobles (The tavern at Denerim) who only know your parents ,but they are the old generations.

Also from what i understand from the introduction the character possess also great deal of knowledge thanks to the wealthy family and the libraries,since i still remember that in conversation with Aldous (high cunning required) the character show to know very well events of history and be capable to grasp things that s/he doesn't yet know.

Also (and this surprised me) In conversations with Dairren the character can demonstrate devouring interest towards the old gods,Dragons and their link to the darkspawn long before to become a Grey Warden,which make me to question on how much is the real knowledge of the character at the beginning of the game (Nobles have the possibility to study a lot).

So no i didn't roleplayed a spare/playboy Cousland because it would have been to OOC for me,an Amell or a city elf or a Dalish or an Aeducan maybe it would have work for me,for the Cousland not so much.

Yes there is Iona/Dairren but this doesn't prove anything,they are captured by the allure of The noble Waren, the contrary is not mandatory