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[Aren]

I'm kind of glad that they handwaved the OGB in DA:I. I'm also very glad that they had Morrigan mellow out and become more human. It wouldn't have been realistic if my Warden had no affect on her personality.

 

Problem is that Morrigan acts the same way in Inquisition regardless of how your Warden dealt with her in Origins.

 

 

-at the end of Inquisition they never gave any real solid rationale for Morrigan wanting the OGB in the first place beyond their insistence on giving Morrigan really vague notions of wanting to preserve ancient knowledge for no reason besides preserving it. 
 

Her mellowing is independent from her experience with the warden,tough honestly i can't imagine how she can afford to act in the same way of DAO with an empress and in a pool of Orlesian sharks.

The well of sorrow quest is just another example, it does not matter her past experience and/or the existence of Kieran her behaviour is the same.

 

 

-that's why i strongly believe that she hadn't any plan ,she just try to do what she was taught to do that's why she wanted the OGB.

Preserve because FLemeth taught to her  and the Inquisitor can ask to her why she want to preserve things,she just answer it is because she must.

[Andrew Lucas]

Morrigan is my King Cousland's mistress so she's baft.

I love you.

[GoldenGail3]

I love you.

Your welcome!

[Qun00]

Your welcome!

No, no, no, you were supposed to say "I love you too!"

[BurningLizard]

No no no.

 

The correct response is, "I know."

[Qun00]

Indeed. You have shown me the error of my ways...

[obbie31]

All I can say is the Morrigan romance is the most invested I have been in a game romance. I felt quite a few emotions throughout the game. I liked talking with her in pretty much every scene even if I didn't agree with many things she said. But it felt well developed and progressed in an interesting way. I actually felt a bit betrayed at the Dark Ritual concept myself. And in Witch Hunt DLC, I went through the mirror with her being the hopeless romantic I am. Glad to see Morrigan felt the same way. 

 

And why does Bioware do this? As a 360 player, I understand that the angry kiss scene is removed? That's one of the best acted scenes in the game and it was removed? That's just dumb.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I agree.  The Morrigan romance is my favorite of any game.  I loved those moments where you got to see her real heart shine through.  Much to her dismay.

[Qun00]

There are several threads about the US/Dark Ritual decision, but people rarely analyse it from the romance angle.

So, my fellow Morrimancers, what did you do and why?

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I never felt like I had a reason to turn down the so-called "dark" ritual. The only reason I turned it down for one playthrough was for metagame reasons: wanted to see the ultimate sacrifice ending.

I did the ritual because I was romancing Morrigan anyway, needed to keep the warden alive for the relationship. Kept Alistair around so that someone would keep the Grey Wardens strong.

[Yaroub]

There are several threads about the US/Dark Ritual decision, but people rarely analyse it from the romance angle.

So, my fellow Morrimancers, what did you do and why?

 

God help me I did it for power and I'll still do it all over again for power and I am proud of it. Hof needed to reach godhood so I took advantage of Avernus' research and accepted the knowledge Morrigan offered - That will only empower and strengthen the Wardens more and more! Furthermore I set off on a quest to cure the call. Surly having romance with Morrigan did make things spicier.

 

In my mind it is crystal clear - The grey ones should have dominion over all of Thedas! And during the time that I had access to them - it is my duty to provide them with the tools to succeed.

[Acno777]

There are several threads about the US/Dark Ritual decision, but people rarely analyse it from the romance angle.

So, my fellow Morrimancers, what did you do and why?

I find the Dark Ritual useful to escape an unnecessary death, thus allowing the Hero of Ferelden to witness the fruits of his labour in the aftermath. Plus, having a child with the soul of a god is  quite appealing for legacy.

[Vigilance97]

My Warden does the DR because he doesn't want to die. It's a character flaw. He's a very brave man, not afraid of risking his life to save others, but when it came to willingly laying down his life to slay the Archdemon he was to much of a coward to do it. It's a sort of dramatic irony that he looked down on Jory for pussying out during the Joining only for him to do the same thing when called upon to make an even greater sacrifice.

 

He tells himself he only did it to eventually learn more about the Old Gods and the Blight, but that's not the true reason and he knows it.

 

The romance angle only really comes into play on a meta level: I like Morrigan and the Warden having that last night together and fighting the Archdemon side by side.

[Jedimaster88]

My Warden is a bit conflicted about it but he eventually does it because he loves her and wants to trust her. He also wants to spend the night with her because there is no telling what will happen during the final battle. His plan is to do everything he can to be reunited with Morrigan when its all over and he is finally succesful in witch hunt.

[BurningLizard]

My Warden's main reasoning is that he trusts Morrigan. At that point he believes he knows her better than anyone else, and he also believes that trust is a big part of love. So even though he has questions, he believes her when she says the OGB won't be evil, nor will the child be harmed, and that her intentions are what she says they are.

 

Granted that doesn't stop him from having his doubts after she leaves.

[Aren]

I'm on the opposite boat,refused Morrigan ritual as i clearly understood that beyond that ritual she did knew nothing of the nature of the very soul she was trying to save as well as her mothers plan.

Based on the information the grey warden had at the time, there was no reason to believe that darkspawn would not hunt this reborn old god, turn him into an archdemon and start another blight. And there was also the risk that Morrigan was wrong or lying, or that something goes wrong and whatnot. And given the disastrous consequences of the blight, this risk is inacceptable. 

[Qun00]

My concern isn't so much about the risk, but the idea of treating a child like an object, a mere tool, as DAO Morrigan felt like doing.

And it will become eternally impossible for any Grey Warden to explain why they are needed. "An archdemon can only be slain with the sacrifice of a Grey Warden" ==> "Really? The Hero of Ferelden survived the 5th Blight and S/He was the one who finished the beast. You Grey Wardens lie to everyone so you can demand resources for yourselves!"

[GoldenGail3]

There are several threads about the US/Dark Ritual decision, but people rarely analyse it from the romance angle.
So, my fellow Morrimancers, what did you do and why?

My Guy really just wanted a night with Morrigan - he'd do anything for her to be honest - so this wasn't far fetched he'd do the DA just becuase she wanted it, to be honest.

[GoldenGail3]

I'm on the opposite boat,refused Morrigan ritual as i clearly understood that beyond that ritual she did knew nothing of the nature of the very soul she was trying to save as well as her mothers plan.
Based on the information the grey warden had at the time, there was no reason to believe that darkspawn would not hunt this reborn old god, turn him into an archdemon and start another blight. And there was also the risk that Morrigan was wrong or lying, or that something goes wrong and whatnot. And given the disastrous consequences of the blight, this risk is inacceptable.

How would the Darkspawn know that Kieran had a old God soul in him? I wonder If Morrigan had to spend Kieran's childhood running with him away from Darkspawn and Flemeth? Hmmmm? This puts things In new light for me, lol.

[BurningLizard]

How would the Darkspawn know that Kieran had a old God soul in him? I wonder If Morrigan had to spend Kieran's childhood running with him away from Darkspawn and Flemeth? Hmmmm? This puts things In new light for me, lol.

Well, the reason that the darkspawn chase down the old gods is because the old gods are trapped and singing to find someone to release them. Even if Urthemiel is in Kieran, I got the impression that it wasn't quite the same as being trapped, so he wouldn't be trying to attract darkspawn.

[GoldenGail3]

Well, the reason that the darkspawn chase down the old gods is because the old gods are trapped and singing to find someone to release them. Even if Urthemiel is in Kieran, I got the impression that it wasn't quite the same as being trapped, so he wouldn't be trying to attract darkspawn.

Good to know, lol. Becuase I had a bad image of my Male Cousland going through long lengths to protect Kieran.....

[BurningLizard]

Good to know, lol. Becuase I had a bad image of my Male Cousland going through long lengths to protect Kieran.....

I can still see that as a neat fanfic scenario, but I'm pretty certain the reason that the darkspawn don't hunt them down is because Urthemiel is no longer calling to them.

[Qun00]

How would the Darkspawn know that Kieran had a old God soul in him? I wonder If Morrigan had to spend Kieran's childhood running with him away from Darkspawn and Flemeth? Hmmmm? This puts things In new light for me, lol.

They don't need to know it. If Kieran becomes tainted like any ordinary person that is attacked by darkspawn on the surface, odds are that a new archdemon will emerge from his body.

[GoldenGail3]

They don't need to know it. If Kieran becomes tainted like any ordinary person that is attacked by darkspawn on the surface, odds are that a new archdemon will emerge from his body.

*feels greatly disturbed by that*

[BurningLizard]

They don't need to know it. If Kieran becomes tainted like any ordinary person that is attacked by darkspawn on the surface, odds are that a new archdemon will emerge from his body.

That is an excellent point, and definitely one that the Warden and Morrigan would spend a lot of sleepless nights over.