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[BurningLizard]

Does that mean that Morrigan is Alistair's step-daughter? This is getting creepier.

Well, considering Alistair NEVER is the one to perform the DR in my games, then a bit less creepy on my end.

 

Morrigan works as an ex so incredibly well. Romanced her, got the ring, but eventually ended up with Leliana. She eventually comes to be your friend and is happy that you are happy. A big jump in her character development.

 

You can also role play your Warden being hung up on her really well if you keep the ring after things are over. Love that it gets mentioned in Witch Hunt if you keep it across the DLC. 

It works, yet I never make Morrigan an ex for my Warden. Well, maybe if I were to bother playing a different Warden every once in a while...

[Aren]

And the Witch Hunt DLC also doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either.

Of all the things my warden had to do, return for no reason in the Dragon bones lands was the last in the list.

The premises of the Dlc could have been more nuanced and generic rather than so shamelessly romance specific.

[ThomasBlaine]

 

Of all the things my warden had to do, return for no reason in the Dragon bones lands was the last in the list.

The premises of the Dlc could have been more nuanced and generic rather than so shamelessly romance specific.

 

 

Tracking down a woman you know doesn't want to see you and stabbing her doesn't strike me as romantic in the conventional sense, so I wouldn't say that myself. I'm rather looking forward to my Orlesian Warden Commander tying up loose ends after the Blight. She does know too much, after all.

[Qun00]

On an unrelated note, I like to headcanon that the Warden gave Morrigan's ring to Kieran so that he'd be safe.

Of course, that raises the question of whether that magic bond can be mantained between three people or if it removes the former connection to Morrigan and switches with the kid.

[Aren]

Tracking down a woman you know doesn't want to see you and stabbing her doesn't strike me as romantic in the conventional sense, so I wouldn't say that myself. I'm rather looking forward to my Orlesian Warden Commander tying up loose ends after the Blight. She does know too much, after all.

I think i didn't even understood half of your post.

Anyway the Orlesian warden doesn't even know who Morrigan is so i'm not sure why they went through the adventure of WH,to waste time?

[ThomasBlaine]

 

I think i didn't even understood half of your post.

Anyway the Orlesian warden doesn't even know who Morrigan is so i'm not sure why they went through the adventure of WH,to waste time?

 

 

You were complaining that Witch Hunt was too romance-specific. Stalking and assault aren't generally considered romantic.

 

And as I said, she knows a lot of things she shouldn't. An Orlesian Warden Commander could easily have pumped Oghren or Alistair for info about the events of the Blight and decided that this "Morrigan" character who knows the Grey Wardens' secrets, wanted to purify the Archdemon, is the daughter and apprentice of a legendary witch and disappeared immediately before the Battle of Denerim is too dangerous to have walking around without at least a look-in.

[Qun00]

Not site about you guys, but I get a great feeling of accomplishment from either romancing or befriending Morrigan.

Just think about it. She literally respects no one else in the game.

[BurningLizard]

Not site about you guys, but I get a great feeling of accomplishment from either romancing or befriending Morrigan.

Just think about it. She literally respects no one else in the game.

There's something to be said for being on her good side, such as it is.

[Aren]

You were complaining that Witch Hunt was too romance-specific. Stalking and assault aren't generally considered romantic.

 

And as I said, she knows a lot of things she shouldn't. An Orlesian Warden Commander could easily have pumped Oghren or Alistair for info about the events of the Blight and decided that this "Morrigan" character who knows the Grey Wardens' secrets, wanted to purify the Archdemon, is the daughter and apprentice of a legendary witch and disappeared immediately before the Battle of Denerim is too dangerous to have walking around without at least a look-in.

The Witch hunt Dlc is romance and/or DR specific but for all others world state doesn't make much sense.

Oghren doesn't know anything about Morrigan and is even removable as companion(refuse to recruit) while Alistair can be killed or exiled so that he don't even meet the Orlesian warden,there you have it a character who is not fitting to play WH and it is just one of many.

Even those wardens of Origins who couldn't care less of her wouldn't have wasted their time to chase her after the soul destruction of the Archdemon in the non-DR world-state.

[ThomasBlaine]

The Witch hunt Dlc is romance and/or DR specific but for all others world state doesn't make much sense.

Oghren doesn't know anything about Morrigan and is even removable as companion(refuse to recruit) while Alistair can be killed or exiled so that he don't even meet the Orlesian warden,there you have it a character who is not fitting to play WH and it is just one of many.

Even those wardens of Origins who couldn't care less of her wouldn't have wasted their time to chase her after the soul destruction of the Archdemon in the non-DR world-state.

 

Oghren spendt the better part of a year traveling with her and several companions who were very vocal about why they didn't like her. There's no way he wouldn't have picked up on her history. In any case, the events of the Blight would have been scrutinized after the fact by the order at large and Morrigan's presence would have elicited questions about the strange apostate who voluntarily traveled with the Warden, is rumored to be one of Flemeth's daughters and left right before the final battle under mysterious circumstances.

 

The Orlesian Warden Commander could have orders from Weisshaupt to find and interrogate her, as could a Warden who didn't perform the ritual, and even one who did. One might go looking for her after hearing she'd been spotted just to make sure she wasn't getting up to more trouble, like trying to locate another Old God to get an extra shot at its soul. That danger would seem especially pressing after having learned of the Architect's involvement with prematurely starting the Fifth Blight.

 

There are plenty of Wardens who wouldn't go to investigate a failed expedition to look for a long-lost thaig either. Morrigan and the Dark Ritual was a major loose end that really stuck out until Inquisition. There wasn't nearly as much call for a Leliana-prequel or a playable what-if scenario like the Darkspawn Chronicles. And if going in search of Morrigan really doesn't suit your particular warden, nothing forces you to play that particular DLC. 

[Vigilance97]

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[Qun00]

I find it funny that when the Inquisitor tells Morrigan "I had no idea you had a husband", she replies " It's not as domestic as you picture".

Uh... you're been in a monogamous, stable relationship for 10 years. And raising a child together.

Maybe she draws the line at cooking for the Warden or living under the same roof, but I don't see much of a difference.

[GoldenGail3]

I find it funny that when the Inquisitor tells Morrigan "I had no idea you had a husband", she replies " It's not as domestic as you picture".

Uh... you're been in a monogamous, stable relationship for 10 years. And raising a child together.

Maybe she draws the line at cooking for the Warden or living under the same roof, but I don't see much of a difference.

I image my Warden refers to her as his wife all the time, and he's flippen married to Anora!

[Aren]

 And if going in search of Morrigan really doesn't suit your particular warden, nothing forces you to play that particular DLC. 

The GW of Weisshaupt do not impose orders to the warden commanders they are left with great autonomy.

 

The player is not left with a choice even if one don't play the Dlc they have to set the choice in the keep because is canon and then even force their wardens to waste ten years following Morrigan's clue  even if they don't care about it.

[Qun00]

...the Warden doesn't literally spend 10 years doing that. It is said that s/he had "disappeared" only recently.

[BurningLizard]

I'd say "Married in all but name" describes a Morrigan and Warden relationship perfectly.

 

I love how when asked, "Are the two of you happy together." the way she says, "The THREE of us." As if to say, "This isn't just a relationship, it's a family."

[ThomasBlaine]

The GW of Weisshaupt do not impose orders to the warden commanders they are left with great autonomy.

 

The player is not left with a choice even if one don't play the Dlc they have to set the choice in the keep because is canon and then even force their wardens to waste ten years following Morrigan's clue  even if they don't care about it.

 

Actually, the Orlesian GWC's dialogue implies that s/he really is following orders from above during Witch Hunt. They might have great autonomy in general, but this is in the wake of the only Blight in 400 years and they're still under the authority of the First Warden. If s/he thought something was too important not to follow up on then s/he wouldn't hesitate giving specific orders to that purpose.

[vertigomez]

I'd say "Married in all but name" describes a Morrigan and Warden relationship perfectly.

I love how when asked, "Are the two of you happy together." the way she says, "The THREE of us." As if to say, "This isn't just a relationship, it's a family."

They even have the rings.

In other news, I want to romance Morrigan with a Dalish elf for lore reasons, but she has more chemistry with my Carta boy. Decisions. edit: I just answered my own question - both! Now I just have to decide which one's canon...

[Qun00]

I chose my Dalish Warden as canon for a similar reason.

With Mythal as a grandmother and Morrigan taking an interesting in elven lore, it just seemed fitting that Kieran should be an elven blooded child.

[GoldenGail3]

I'd say "Married in all but name" describes a Morrigan and Warden relationship perfectly.

 

I love how when asked, "Are the two of you happy together." the way she says, "The THREE of us." As if to say, "This isn't just a relationship, it's a family."

Ah poor Cousland... He's married to Anora, so alas.... 

[obbie31]

So I finally met Morrigan in DAI and talked with her. My opinion of her has improved considerably.

 

I liked her new stances and her being in a committed and seemingly loving relationship with my Warden. She's also mellowed out a lot as well. Only weird thing is, my Warden is brown and not white. Keiran is pale as a ghost. 

 

I did find if funny when she said that sending a message to him will make the Warden think that she misses him and that he'd be insufferably pleased with himself. 

[Qun00]

That is why I'm glad that I was introduced to the franchise through DAI.

I already knew about Kieran when I got around to playing Origins and made sure my Warden would look like him.

Spoiler

As for Morrigan's remarks, it's just like I said before. She has been in a commited relationship for 10 years but still tries to convince herself that it's totally different.

So tsundere!

Anyway, have you already finished the Temple of Mythal quest?

[BurningLizard]

So I finally met Morrigan in DAI and talked with her. My opinion of her has improved considerably.

 

I liked her new stances and her being in a committed and seemingly loving relationship with my Warden. She's also mellowed out a lot as well. Only weird thing is, my Warden is brown and not white. Keiran is pale as a ghost. 

 

I did find if funny when she said that sending a message to him will make the Warden think that she misses him and that he'd be insufferably pleased with himself. 

 

I love her comment about how the contents of the letter would "Make an Orlesian blush". What do you want to bet it was the sappiest of love letters and Morrigan is just posturing when she's playing it off as a sexy letter.

[Domakir]

I liked her new stances and her being in a committed and seemingly loving relationship with my Warden. She's also mellowed out a lot as well. Only weird thing is, my Warden is brown and not white. Keiran is pale as a ghost. 

I like the fact that Kieran can only look like the warden even if you have to adapt your character's looks. At least he doesn't look like Loghain or Alistair.

 

What do you want to bet it was the sappiest of love letters and Morrigan is just posturing when she's playing it off as a sexy letter.

Or both. xD

[obbie31]

@ Qun, no sir. I have not yet done Temple of Mythal quest yet. I am assuming this is a side quest? I am pretty much just doing side quests in the Emerald Graves at this point and am going to continue the next story missions after the Wicked Hearts mission.

 

Its kind of odd with Keiran honestly. One of the nice touches I really liked about DA2 is that if you alter the skin color of your Hawke, the rest of the family changes to meet that skin tone. I felt really disconnected playing human noble being light brown and everyone else in the castle including my family are white as the driven snow. I have to assume I'm adopted or something, I dunno. Or maybe I should just do human mage if I want to base the character around myself. I am wondering if Morrigan has any additional comments if you are a human mage and intend to romance her. Might be worth replaying DAO again for.

 

I thought the reason for entering your data through the keep (which included picking the specific character you made) was that certain choices/characters would remain consistent with the game. I was spoiled before hand that Keiran exists if you perform the dark ritual. But I assumed the DAI would take that into account into DAI and adjust Keiran's look. But much to my dismay, I found that you had to recreate Hawke yourself on top of this. What was the point of choosing which Hawke if you have to build him from scratch and he looks nothing of how he did in DA2 (besides his class and personality of course)?