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[Qun00]

Fans would rage a lot harder if the game generated their characters' appearance and they didn't like the results.

They would complain about how they have no control over it.

[line_genrou]

They even have the rings.

In other news, I want to romance Morrigan with a Dalish elf for lore reasons, but she has more chemistry with my Carta boy. Decisions. edit: I just answered my own question - both! Now I just have to decide which one's canon...

 

I thought only the warden had the ring. At least we know she gave him the one ring Flemeth gave her

[ThomasBlaine]

@ Qun, no sir. I have not yet done Temple of Mythal quest yet. I am assuming this is a side quest? I am pretty much just doing side quests in the Emerald Graves at this point and am going to continue the next story missions after the Wicked Hearts mission.

 

Its kind of odd with Keiran honestly. One of the nice touches I really liked about DA2 is that if you alter the skin color of your Hawke, the rest of the family changes to meet that skin tone. I felt really disconnected playing human noble being light brown and everyone else in the castle including my family are white as the driven snow. I have to assume I'm adopted or something, I dunno. Or maybe I should just do human mage if I want to base the character around myself. I am wondering if Morrigan has any additional comments if you are a human mage and intend to romance her. Might be worth replaying DAO again for.

 

I thought the reason for entering your data through the keep (which included picking the specific character you made) was that certain choices/characters would remain consistent with the game. I was spoiled before hand that Keiran exists if you perform the dark ritual. But I assumed the DAI would take that into account into DAI and adjust Keiran's look. But much to my dismay, I found that you had to recreate Hawke yourself on top of this. What was the point of choosing which Hawke if you have to build him from scratch and he looks nothing of how he did in DA2 (besides his class and personality of course)? 

 

Well... The first game is set in medieval pseudo-Britain. Highever is the equivalent of Scotland. You kind of set yourself up for disappointment there. Hawke is marginally more plausible but it's weird that Leandra's looks change along with Hawke's, implying that whatever non-caucasian genes you have you got from her, while her brother Gamlen is entirely white.

[Qun00]

I'm always careful if the Hero's got family that is shown onscreen.

I don't even dare to give my Cousland any eye color that Bryce and Eleanor don't have.

Well... The first game is set in medieval pseudo-Britain. Highever is the equivalent of Scotland. You kind of set yourself up for disappointment there. Hawke is marginally more plausible but it's weird is that Leandra's looks change along with Hawke's, implying that whatever non-caucasian genes you have you got from her, while her brother Gamlen is entirely white.

Forgive my ignorance, but what does Ferelden have in common with England?

The Fereldan people ooze with manliness, with their rustic architecture and disdain for the Orlesian obsession with fancy frivolities. Other nations look at them as barbarians.

It's just... nothing I've ever heard being associated with British culture.

[HeliosDisciple]

Forgive my ignorance, but what does Ferelden have in common with England?

The Fereldan people ooze with manliness, with their rustic architecture and disdain for the Orlesian obsession with fancy frivolities. Other nations look at them as barbarians.

It's just... nothing I've ever heard being associated with British culture.

 

They're not modern Brits, they're Anglo-Saxons - A scattered bunch of independent petty kings and lords united under Alfred Calenhad the Great. The Landsmeet is a fantasy version of the Witenagemont, a gathering of top nobles who elected the king.

 

Ferelden is a fantasy Anglo-Saxon England who managed to throw out the Norman Conquest.

[BurningLizard]

They're not modern Brits, they're Anglo-Saxons - A scattered bunch of independent petty kings and lords united under Alfred Calenhad the Great. The Landsmeet is a fantasy version of the Witenagemont, a gathering of top nobles who elected the king.

 

Ferelden is a fantasy Anglo-Saxon England who managed to throw out the Norman Conquest.

Makes me wonder how many of the people involved in making the game have British ancestry and whether they're subconsciously using the game to deal with some sort of genetic memory of the invasion.

[Qun00]

They're Canadian, right? It just makes sense.

[vertigomez]

Makes me wonder how many of the people involved in making the game have British ancestry and whether they're subconsciously using the game to deal with some sort of genetic memory of the invasion.

I........... doubt it. It's just a fun 'what could have been?' situation, neatly packaged with the trappings of medieval fantasy.

[Qun00]

I'll be starting my final Dalish Warden pt soon.

My intention is that he should look as close to Kieran as possible, but there is just one tiny obstacle: The kid's eyecolor.

I can't seem to determine it for sure. What did it look like to you guys?

[ThomasBlaine]

Soon enough I'll start my new and final pt with my Dalish Warden and then I will finally build my world state for good.

 

I think we've all been barking up that tree since 2009.

[Qun00]

You will have to be more specific, my friend. I wasn't here in 2009.

[ThomasBlaine]

They're not modern Brits, they're Anglo-Saxons - A scattered bunch of independent petty kings and lords united under Alfred Calenhad the Great. The Landsmeet is a fantasy version of the Witenagemont, a gathering of top nobles who elected the king.

 

Ferelden is a fantasy Anglo-Saxon England who managed to throw out the Norman Conquest.

 

I was mostly just thinking about Highever's obvious Celtic influences, but yeah, spot on.

 

You will have to be more specific, my friend. I wasn't here in 2009.

 

Hehe, look up a Game of the Year award record.

 

Edit: Okay, nevermind. DA:O came out in 2009, along with every other game worth playing apparently. Jesus Christ.

[vertigomez]

I thought only the warden had the ring. At least we know she gave him the one ring Flemeth gave her

Whoops, yeah, technically.

Close enough.

[Domakir]

Whoops, yeah, technically.

Close enough.

Well... a little headcanon doesn't hurt anyone. Plus muy game bugged and Morrigan gave me two rings so...

[Qun00]

Unless it is a literal headcanon.

[Domakir]

I'm curious. How many of you think it's a good idea to let Morrigan drink from the Well of Sorrows? I only let her drink if Kieran doesn't exist and if the inquisitor is not an elf.

 

In my canon she's as far from the Well as posible.

[Qun00]

Flemeth's parting words to Morrigan were "Listen to the voices. They will teach you as I never did".

And despite everything, I believe she does care for her daughter. If it were any sort of threat, I'm sure Flemeth would show some concern.

I think it is more likely that drinking from the Well would give Morrigan a greater purpose in the franchise. But if it does turn her into a magic zombie as Solas' little drama implies, Kieran still got his father on his side.

Besides... it's always nice to see Morrigan learn from her mistakes. She arrogantly and greedly chased after this power and now she is leashed to mommy.

[vertigomez]

The WoS decision is hard because from a meta perspective, I'm choosing between my wife... and my wife's wife. But generally speaking, unless I'm playing a Dalish Inquisitor, I let Morrigan drink from the Well. Most of my characters aren't interested and wouldn't know what to do with that kind of knowledge, as they're live-for-now types.

Plus she turns into a dragon. That's bad***.

[Qun00]

On another subject, I find that Morrigan contradicts herself a lot in the Kieran related scenes.

"Flemeth: Have you not used him? Was that not your purpose, the reason you agreed to his creation?

Morrigan: That was then, but now he... he is my son!"

Sweet, isn't it? But in the conversation with the Inquisitor afterwards, she laments that "Kieran had a destiny" and now Flemeth took it away.

Seriously? You'd think Morrigan learned her lesson, but she still thinks it was a good idea to use her own son as a glorified lab rat.

And at a different time she says "No son of mine would be raised in a marsh, bereft of contact with the outside world". Oh no, it is better to raise him in a parallel dimension and remove him from the world altogether.

[Aren]

On another subject, I find that Morrigan contradicts herself a lot in the Kieran related scenes.

"Flemeth: Have you not used him? Was that not your purpose, the reason you agreed to his creation?

Morrigan: That was then, but now he... he is my son!"

Sweet, isn't it? But in the conversation with the Inquisitor afterwards, she laments that "Kieran had a destiny" and now Flemeth took it away.

Seriously? You'd think Morrigan learned her lesson, but she still thinks it was a good idea to use her own son as a glorified lab rat.

And at a different time she says "No son of mine would be raised in a marsh, bereft of contact with the outside world". Oh no, it is better to raise him in a parallel dimension and remove him from the world altogether.

Bordering on hypocrisy isn't all that rare for Morrigan the dialogues you brought it up are not even the most prominent in this regard.

In the temple of Mythal she go far beyond whe she jump on the well of sorrow because she care for her son..........

[Domakir]

On another subject, I find that Morrigan contradicts herself a lot in the Kieran related scenes.

"Flemeth: Have you not used him? Was that not your purpose, the reason you agreed to his creation?

Morrigan: That was then, but now he... he is my son!"

Sweet, isn't it? But in the conversation with the Inquisitor afterwards, she laments that "Kieran had a destiny" and now Flemeth took it away.

Seriously? You'd think Morrigan learned her lesson, but she still thinks it was a good idea to use her own son as a glorified lab rat.

And at a different time she says "No son of mine would be raised in a marsh, bereft of contact with the outside world". Oh no, it is better to raise him in a parallel dimension and remove him from the world altogether.

A lot of characters contradict themselves in DAI.

[shiramaru]

Hello everyone. I have a bit of a dumb question since those who's been in that topic for a while apparently know the answer pretty well. But anywhay - the question is pretty much simple: "Is morrigan's romance still bugged and if it still is, then what is the best way of obtaining both epilogues for Morrigan along with correct plot flags (DA:O and DA:A) so that I can safely import it all into Witch Hunt and get the ending where my Warden leaves with Morrigan?

 

Also, if that is still as bugged as it used to be would Morrigan Restoration Patch fix the issues that were present before?

 

Thank you very much in advance!

 

P.S. I'd just have looked up more info myself but with all those years having passed there's just too much of it.

[AFA]

Wow, the Warden + Morrigan relationship across the games sounds very interesting and heartwarming. Happy, raising a kid, etc..

 

The Male Warden and Leliana comes off kind of soul-crushing, especially when compared to that. Both being married to their jobs, no children, possibly spending years apart. Morrigan becomes warmer, while Leli slides into Nightingale mode. 

[Qun00]

Leliana can be softened again. But yes, Morrigan actually lives and travels with the Warden and their son.

Trespasser's epilogue mentions that Leliana still meets the Warden from time to time, but that naturally is limited by her schedule.

[vertigomez]

Doesn't non-Divine Leliana go live with the Warden in Leli's childhood villa? That seems pretty happy to me. They just took a little extra time to get there.

Sorry shiramaru, I have no idea if it's still bugged or not.