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[Brockololly]

Hello everyone. I have a bit of a dumb question since those who's been in that topic for a while apparently know the answer pretty well. But anywhay - the question is pretty much simple: "Is morrigan's romance still bugged and if it still is, then what is the best way of obtaining both epilogues for Morrigan along with correct plot flags (DA:O and DA:A) so that I can safely import it all into Witch Hunt and get the ending where my Warden leaves with Morrigan?
 
Also, if that is still as bugged as it used to be would Morrigan Restoration Patch fix the issues that were present before?
 
Thank you very much in advance!
 
P.S. I'd just have looked up more info myself but with all those years having passed there's just too much of it.

I think most of the big bugs were fixed. Maybe the only one that never got properly fixed was the whole thing where you wouldn't get the Morrigan epilogue slide in Awakening (but that didn't really affect anything). If you're on PC, I'd just use the Morrigan Restoration Patch- it'll fix most of the bugs that do exist and Terra_Ex restored a bunch of content that was cut for whatever reason. That's probably the easiest route.

And here's some art for the page, courtesy of Kinets:

[MisterJB]

Why do you think Morrigan chose to become a public figure in the Orlesian court? She's not above fondness for material things (see the precious gifts in DAO) so was it merely a way of maintaining an high class lifestyle? To give Kieran access to that world? Was she using Celene's resources to preserve ancient magics in some way?

[Qun00]

Probably the last alternative.

If Morrigan truly cared about giving Kieran access to the world, she wouldn't have raised him in a parallel dimension.

[BurningLizard]

Well, I doubt they were in the other dimension that long. Ten years since Origins, around a year and a half to two years from the end of origins to Witch Hunt (information I've found on that is a bit confused), so that's seven-ish years till Inquisition. Morrigan was Celene's advisor three years before Inquisition. So at most they were probably in the other dimension for four years. And that's not even counting the time it took for Morrigan to become established in Orlais, and who knows how long that took.

[The Ascendant]

Orlais is the most powerful country in Thedas, and Morrigan loves power. Not as much as her son and her Warden (for me a Male Mage Amell), but having access to the most powerful woman in the world and her considerable resources is a good idea. Not to mention Kieran would receive the best education available to him from the Court and University as well as his mother and father. While spending a few years in a pocket dimension isn't the safest place, considering she was hiding from Flemeth, is there anyplace else she could run from her?

[Qun00]

Well, I doubt they were in the other dimension that long. Ten years since Origins, around a year and a half to two years from the end of origins to Witch Hunt (information I've found on that is a bit confused), so that's seven-ish years till Inquisition. Morrigan was Celene's advisor three years before Inquisition. So at most they were probably in the other dimension for four years. And that's not even counting the time it took for Morrigan to become established in Orlais, and who knows how long that took.

And I suppose the Order of the Grey Wardens would've noticed if the HoF had disappeared for a decade.

He would be declared a deserter.

[Illegitimus]

Probably the last alternative.

If Morrigan truly cared about giving Kieran access to the world, she wouldn't have raised him in a parallel dimension.

 

But then she didn't.  She took him out before he was ten. 

 

 

And I suppose the Order of the Grey Wardens would've noticed if the HoF had disappeared for a decade.

He would be declared a deserter.

 

<snort>  There isn't a blight on.  I don't think the Wardens care that much even if they wouldn't suspect he was dead.  

[Qun00]

That is how the common peasant thinks, I'd imagine.

But the Grey Wardens always take their duty seriously, Blight or no.

[Illegitimus]

That is how the common peasant thinks, I'd imagine.

But the Grey Wardens always take their duty seriously, Blight or no.

 

Anders says "hi".  So do the Grey Wardens who met him while wondering around underground.  

[Qun00]

The ones that were busy fulfilling an assignment and asked Anders if he'd decided to return to the Order?

Those Grey Wardens?

[Illegitimus]

The ones that were busy fulfilling an assignment and asked Anders if he'd decided to return to the Order?

Those Grey Wardens?

 

Yes those are the ones I'm talking about.  The people who talk about "desertion" don't ask.  

[Qun00]

Well, Anders doesn't see it that way.

"You think I got away? Eventually, they will drag me back. I have no illusions about that".

[ThomasBlaine]

Probably the last alternative.

If Morrigan truly cared about giving Kieran access to the world, she wouldn't have raised him in a parallel dimension.

 

 

Do we know for a fact that she actually raised him inside the pocket dimension? Couldn't they travel anywhere they wanted?

 

In any case, she could hardly have brought up an old god baby among the general populace. At least not before he was old enough to learn a modicum of discretion. It would have been begging for disaster. And I wouldn't put it past her to try and establish political power for its own sake, her experiences with the Warden alone would have taught her the value of having strong allies to protect her from her enemies.

 

And why not try to make something of herself, now that she's free from Flemeth's insistence on total isolation? She could also be trying to cultivate a future position of power for her son, or just get her hands on some of the magical tomes the Chantry must have hidden away after a thousand years of censoring mage libraries all over Thedas.

 

Well, Anders doesn't see it that way.

"You think I got away? Eventually, they will drag me back. I have no illusions about that".

 

The deserting seems to be treated on a case-by-case basis, or even left to the judgement of whichever commanding officer is forced to deal with it. I can totally see the Fereldan wardens giving Anders some extra slack.  They know they can't actually keep him against his will, hunting him is a pain in the ass and killing him would be dangerous and a waste of a brilliant healer - likely the most sought-after recruits there are. Hoping he'd come back on his own would seem like a pretty solid play.

 

One might also assume that he could be trusted to keep his mouth shut for his own good, being a mage and all. Obviously that isn't really the case, but Warden Commanders don't know everything.

[Illegitimus]

Well, Anders doesn't see it that way.

"You think I got away? Eventually, they will drag me back. I have no illusions about that".

 

Anders is mentally disturbed.  Always was, even before he invited Justice in.  The history of his time in Kirkwall (including his encounter with a group of them if it happens) makes it clear that while the Wardens would have allowed him back, they were not at all inclined to invest any effort in bringing him back.  

[GoldenGail3]

Anders is mentally disturbed.  Always was, even before he invited Justice in.  The history of his time in Kirkwall (including his encounter with a group of them if it happens) makes it clear that while the Wardens would have allowed him back, they were not at all inclined to invest any effort in bringing him back.  

My Warden would've hung him for his crimes (whilest my Female Amell would've personally seen that his head was loped off his body). 

[vertigomez]

Why do you think Morrigan chose to become a public figure in the Orlesian court?

She's not above fondness for material things (see the precious gifts in DAO) so was it merely a way of maintaining an high class lifestyle? To give Kieran access to that world? Was she using Celene's resources to preserve ancient magics in some way?

I think it's a combination of taking advantage of Celene's resources, and wanting to see the world for herself and for Kieran. She says she doesn't want him to be cut off from the world like she was.

[vertigomez]

With the caption, "Because she can't always wear her hair up."

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