No preference, so long as I can access the dialogue paths where he will break up with the warden it should be fine. Morrigan is standing by, ready to taunt Ali as we speakAddai67 wrote...
I should mention all of mine are with Alistair hardened, and I only have elves and HNF. Do you have a preference?Terra_Ex wrote...
@Addai - sure, send me a save whenever is convenient for you.
Ohhhh.Terra_Ex wrote...
No preference, so long as I can access the dialogue paths where he will break up with the warden it should be fine. Morrigan is standing by, ready to taunt Ali as we speakAddai67 wrote...
I should mention all of mine are with Alistair hardened, and I only have elves and HNF. Do you have a preference?Terra_Ex wrote...
@Addai - sure, send me a save whenever is convenient for you.
Cue my female Wardens hating Morrigan's guts. Of course, my male PC wanted to slug Alistair for his smugness about Morrigan at post-coronation, especially since my PC knows that she might have saved his life if it had come to Alistair having to make the final blow.
That's the only thing to go by. I will admit that it's the only thing the got me back on track(even though the bug that prevents half of the epilogues from showing up is frustrating).Master Shiori wrote...
Another thing.
In Origins, Morrigan's epilogue gives us clues that we'll probably discover what Morrigan has planned for the god child, yet it never mentions the Warden searching for her.
In Awakening the epilogue says "Warden disappears in Orlais while searching for a dark-haired sorceress. Whether he found her or not nobody knows".
In first epilogue they clearly show us that we'll likely see Morrigan again. No problem here.
In Awakening they let us know in no unceirtain terms that the Warden is searching for her, but not whether he found her.
If he did find her we're likely to play as a Warden again in a future title, since the epilogue leaves that option open.
However, if the reunion is never bound to happen then what is the purpose of giving people hope like this? As long as you plan on bringing back Morrigan the answer to this question is bound to reveal itself and if it turns out the reunion wasn't going to happen then you're left with a lot of fans who'll feel cheated. I can't imagine Bioware throwing us a bone like this unless they honestly plan to deliver.
blademaster7 wrote...
That's the only thing to go by. I will admit that it's the only thing the got me back on track(even though the bug that prevents half of the epilogues from showing up is frustrating).
Why did they throw us the bone though? So they can please the masses that wanted romance acknowledgement? Or just to give us a little hint of things to come?
Regardless, I would have prefered the actual acknowledgement to be IN the game it self and not print it on a .ppt slide. That private chick lost my Leliana letter.... damn her!
blademaster7 wrote...
Terra, did you fix the Leliana/Morrigan banter? I don't remember you reporting back
The Leli/Morri banter wasn't confirmed as broken was it (catfight banters iirc)? I think I said the trigger conditions looked good for all the banters and I'll be testing it either today/tomorrow. Modifié par Terra_Ex, 14 mai 2010 - 07:53 .
I wasn't talking about the origins ending. No mention of the ring in Awakening.Master Shiori wrote...
blademaster7 wrote...
That's the only thing to go by. I will admit that it's the only thing the got me back on track(even though the bug that prevents half of the epilogues from showing up is frustrating).
Why did they throw us the bone though? So they can please the masses that wanted romance acknowledgement? Or just to give us a little hint of things to come?
Regardless, I would have prefered the actual acknowledgement to be IN the game it self and not print it on a .ppt slide. That private chick lost my Leliana letter.... damn her!
If they just wanted to acknowledge the romance why not do it through the ring? That way there's no obligation of actually making the reunion happen.
This way, even if the player initialy didn't say he'd go find Morrigan, he ends up looking for her without having a say in the matter. This is either them dropping a hint or deceiveing us on on purpose.
If I were a developher I wouldn't be keen on facing the implications of that.
Modifié par blademaster7, 14 mai 2010 - 08:29 .
Terra_Ex wrote...
I've always loved the ring and the mini-role it plays within the romance subplot. The way she puts up this facade to mask what she really feels is part of her appeal , and this obviously comes through strongly at the end via the ring. The ring ties the warden in with the ongoing Flemeth/Morrigan subplot at the very least which can't be a bad thing. It would have been interesting how players would have reacted to her and the other companions if the approval changes were not immediately fed back to the player.
It struck me as odd that they they reduced the romance mentions to .ppt
slides. I could think of at least a dozen instances where a romance
mention will fit perfectly in a dialogue branch. Maybe they changed
their mind the last moment and wrote those slides in a rush or
something.
Modifié par Swoo, 14 mai 2010 - 08:14 .
blademaster7 wrote...
PS: lol at the Morrigan - Mary Sue comparison. I don't know why Gaider got so defensive. Morrigan is the very definition of Mary Sue.
?!! I would not say that at all. Morrigan draws on the wild-woman tropes, naturally, but she has surprising twists. Even so small a thing as her affection for jewelry is not something you would expect at first glance. Nor her educated demeanor. On a deeper level, her vulnerability and girlishness is something that I wouldn't have expected. One of the surprising moments of playing her romance was the girlish laugh she greets the Warden with about midway through the approval scale.blademaster7 wrote...
PS: lol at the Morrigan - Mary Sue comparison. I don't know why Gaider got so defensive. Morrigan is the very definition of Mary Sue.
blademaster7 wrote...
I wasn't talking about the origins ending. No mention of the ring in Awakening.Master Shiori wrote...
blademaster7 wrote...
That's the only thing to go by. I will admit that it's the only thing the got me back on track(even though the bug that prevents half of the epilogues from showing up is frustrating).
Why did they throw us the bone though? So they can please the masses that wanted romance acknowledgement? Or just to give us a little hint of things to come?
Regardless, I would have prefered the actual acknowledgement to be IN the game it self and not print it on a .ppt slide. That private chick lost my Leliana letter.... damn her!
If they just wanted to acknowledge the romance why not do it through the ring? That way there's no obligation of actually making the reunion happen.
This way, even if the player initialy didn't say he'd go find Morrigan, he ends up looking for her without having a say in the matter. This is either them dropping a hint or deceiveing us on on purpose.
If I were a developher I wouldn't be keen on facing the implications of that.
It struck me as odd that they they reduced the romance mentions to .ppt slides. I could think of at least a dozen instances where a romance mention will fit perfectly in a dialogue branch. Maybe they changed their mind the last moment and wrote those slides in a rush or something.
Morrigan is not untouchable, though. I've seen Mary Sues in text RPG and someone could never be their friend because either their past is too melodramatically tragic or their heroism too idealistically stoic for mere mortals. Probably both. And every single scene is all about them.blademaster7 wrote...
unrealistic and untouchable *cough DR cough*
Swoo wrote...
Just as a tiny semi-related side note, the one time I played Awakenings (before burning that Abomination off my computer), I lost Morrigans ring in the Silverite Mines when they robbed my Magi arse. Was I the only one ready to tear that place apart to find whatever chest or creature had it? Sigh, people were probably worried about the 2H Sword of Doooooom or the Traffic Cone of the Magi +10 Spellpower, and I was going to tear the place apart for a (pretty useless) ring.
Swoo wrote...
I stand by my belief it was a one-shot Orleasian tale, and the OG PC's were just shoehorned in for fun, but has zero canon implications.
Can be done with the console.Terra_Ex wrote...
That said, I've never encountered these in-game as far as I can remember - were there any reports of people actually hearing those banters inside the game?
In fact - an appropriate save where the warden is romancing both at the same time would be quite handy.
Ha! I haven't played Aedan through Awakening yet, but that was my first thought about Zevran's earring for my female mage. Charsen had made a mod to give us an equippable ring, and I was outrageously outraged to think that a ghoul was wearing it and so glad when I got it back.Master Shiori wrote...
Swoo wrote...
Just as a tiny semi-related side note, the one time I played Awakenings (before burning that Abomination off my computer), I lost Morrigans ring in the Silverite Mines when they robbed my Magi arse. Was I the only one ready to tear that place apart to find whatever chest or creature had it? Sigh, people were probably worried about the 2H Sword of Doooooom or the Traffic Cone of the Magi +10 Spellpower, and I was going to tear the place apart for a (pretty useless) ring.
Same here.
The first thing that went through my mind when I woke up in that cell was "The bastard took my ring!"
Finding it meant more to me then getting all the equipment back.
Modifié par Addai67, 14 mai 2010 - 08:51 .
Well... sigh... me and my poor choice of words. I know what you mean and I agree.Addai67 wrote...
Morrigan is not untouchable,
though.
Lol. That's exactly what happened to me as well.Master Shiori wrote...
The first thing that went through my mind when I woke up in that cell was "The bastard took my ring!"
Finding it meant more to me then getting all the equipment back.
Modifié par blademaster7, 14 mai 2010 - 09:07 .
Master Shiori wrote...
Swoo wrote...
I stand by my belief it was a one-shot Orleasian tale, and the OG PC's were just shoehorned in for fun, but has zero canon implications.
It's possible to tell OG PC's were added later, but the fact they were added at all seems to indicate Bioware knew we'd want to continue with our old Wardens rather then have a clean slate.
The story itself and our choices were practicaly meaningless. Nothing that would have any impact on future titles (unless they plan to bring the awakened Darkspawn and Architect back at some point).
blademaster7 wrote...
I wasn't talking about the origins ending. No mention of the ring in Awakening.
It struck me as odd that they they reduced the romance mentions to .ppt slides. I could think of at least a dozen instances where a romance mention will fit perfectly in a dialogue branch. Maybe they changed their mind the last moment and wrote those slides in a rush or something.
David Gaider wrote...
Just regarding those asking about the romances, by "not continue" it just means you don't have a chance to actively continue the relationship during the course of this adventure. It does not mean that you mysteriously broke up or that the romance is not recognized to exist. I would have liked to have cameos by everyone, but that simply wasn't possible. As it is, you may find some treats awaiting you -- recognizing past decisions can be done in small ways, as well as large (and this applies to things outside of romances, as well).
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