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THE Morrigan Discussion and Research Thread *Infested with Bugs Yet Again!*


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#201
Booglarize

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Isavald - 

True enough, I suppose. Still, I'm not confident that we'll be hearing anything soon - I mean, there's quite a few people out there with what seem to be game-killing bugs, and a lot of them haven't gotten a proper response yet. They might not ignore this forever, but in the scheme of things I think it'll be fairly low on their list of priorities.

Modifié par Booglarize, 23 mars 2010 - 07:23 .


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I just have finished my Dragon Age Awakening playthough and i got the epilogue that says my gray warden goes on a search of Morrigan

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Here's another thing that makes me doubt whether the end-game dialogue with Morrigan in DA:O was really supposed to kill the romance, while not talking to her would keep her as a lover: I believe she addresses you as "my love" in the dialogue, possibly depending on what you say to her.  I loaded up my epilogue save to play the DLC stuff before starting Awakening, and saw this in the conversation history.  Later, when I spoke to her at camp, she had reverted back to friendship dialogue, as others have noted.

Personally, I'm tending to doubt that BioWare will say anything on this unless (until?) they are good and ready to announce that DA2 will feature the same Warden and some sort of continuation of Morrigan's story and romance.  If this is the case, I expect they will have to acknowledge this issue, and let us know if or how it will affect us.  If they're working on a game that doesn't depend on this plot point in any way, I don't see why they would come in to confirm that there's a bug which will not affect anything in the long run.

I hope that the Warden-Morrigan story will be continued in some form, but at this point the issues with Sigrun's and Velanna's companion quests are bothering me more.  I missed both of these in my Awakening playthrough, presumably due to bugs.

Modifié par Noilly Prat, 23 mars 2010 - 07:49 .


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Booglarize

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She addressed me as "my love" in that conversation as well. In fact, that's one of the only times in the game she actually uses that phrase.

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Come on Bioware: a simple : Don't worry, the epilogue won't matter is enough!

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Unfortunately, in the big scheme of things this is a pretty minor bug- I mean look at how some of the Origins endings are all wonky for some people and those haven't been touched.



I did PM Gaider a couple days ago FWIW pointing him to this thread. Here is his response for those interested: "If I remember right, the Morrigan epilogue in Awakening only requires that your romance with Morrigan be active and that you did not choose to return to the Grey Wardens at the end of Origins. It might have changed, however -- I didn't code it, after all."



I asked for further clarification but he just said he wasn't sure since he didn't code it, which is fair enough in my book. Perhaps this issue would be better served in one of the tech support forums, since it likely is a coding issue more or less.

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Well, at least it wasn't intentional. The ending is still programmed in Awakening after all, the problem is all in the coding.

Someone should tell these guys who coded the ending that 90% of the people who romanced Morrigan got a "deactivation" at the end. If they plan on letting us import our saves in the future at least they'll be aware of it.

Modifié par blademaster7, 23 mars 2010 - 09:09 .


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A quick confirmation from some Bioware guy would be really appreciated.



Come on, we're not asking the moon, are we?

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Brockololly wrote...

Unfortunately, in the big scheme of things this is a pretty minor bug- I mean look at how some of the Origins endings are all wonky for some people and those haven't been touched.

I did PM Gaider a couple days ago FWIW pointing him to this thread. Here is his response for those interested: "If I remember right, the Morrigan epilogue in Awakening only requires that your romance with Morrigan be active and that you did not choose to return to the Grey Wardens at the end of Origins. It might have changed, however -- I didn't code it, after all."

I asked for further clarification but he just said he wasn't sure since he didn't code it, which is fair enough in my book. Perhaps this issue would be better served in one of the tech support forums, since it likely is a coding issue more or less.


Well, the coding isn't really important - just ask him whether talking to Morrigan during the final battle is supposed to demote her from "love" to "friendly", since that apparently deactivates the romance, thereby disqualifying the Awakening epilogue. If it's not meant to be that way, then we'll know for sure that it's a bug.

Modifié par Booglarize, 23 mars 2010 - 10:07 .


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Perhaps the OP should change the title, since by Gaider's own admission coding isn't exactly his area?

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Brockololly

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Suggestions for a new catchy title for the thread?

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Brockololly wrote...

Suggestions for a new catchy title for the thread?


Try copying an Alistair/Leliana squee thread? :pinched:

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Just remove the David Gaider part and it's fine. ;)

I would re-write the first post if I were you. Most players are probably not even aware this ending even exists. Just let the readers know that Awakening didn't recognize the romance properly and maybe add a mini-guide on how the ending triggers(and let them know that is the incorrect way).

The more people complaining about it the better. :P

Modifié par blademaster7, 23 mars 2010 - 11:20 .


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Brockololly,

Try:

(Awakening) Calling DA Developers!!! Morrigan Romance Epilogue Bugged?

No need for fancy, simple (and accurately targeted) will do.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 24 mars 2010 - 12:21 .


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Edit: Deleted as reading this after I posted I realized it sounded either whiny or snarky and I meant it to be neither!  Good luck getting this fixed.

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 mars 2010 - 12:28 .


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Doubt it will ever be patched sadly, but acknowledgement that it may not matter would be nice. my fave character from Origins had love with Morrigan until the end, and got the ring ending. and had no mention of Morrigan at all in Awakenings, was hoping for just a minor bone on this.

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Is there a way to console cheat to the end of the game so I can test the variables that will get me the search for Morrigan ending?

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I don't think so, but you can import any save you like from Orgins to start Awakening, so I think that should work out well enough for testing.

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yeah, but then I'd have to beat the game again and if I still didn't get the ending I wanted I'd be pissed

I meant, is there a way to skip to the end of the game after you start Awakening

Modifié par Arius23, 24 mars 2010 - 02:16 .


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Would be nice to see this addressed.

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blademaster7 wrote...

Just remove the David Gaider part and it's fine. ;)

I would re-write the first post if I were you. Most players are probably not even aware this ending even exists. Just let the readers know that Awakening didn't recognize the romance properly and maybe add a mini-guide on how the ending triggers(and let them know that is the incorrect way).

The more people complaining about it the better. :P


Hell yeah! I wasnt even aware that such a bug existed until I somehow arbitrarily stumbled over this thread in the forums!

I'm about half way into Awakening & now realise that seeing as in my DA-O post epilogue camp scenes Morrigan has reverted to friendly (even though I went through all the right crap of romancing her through out the game & got the ring mention in my ending), I'm now going to miss out on the Awakening ending I should have of my Warden setting out after her.
And if I hadnt have seen this thread, I wouldnt have even been aware that something was amiss, & merely would've ended the expansion feeling 'bleh' about the lack of any reference to my romance with Morrigan <_<

Man I'm bumbed...

We shouldnt have to jump through hoops and wring ourselves dry in the efforts of getting the endings we're actually entitled to - thats the BW dev's jobs. But still, I'm about to scrap my awakening game & return to origins anyway to fix this problem, before picking up awakening again afresh.
I'm on PC - can anyone out there please give me a bit more of a detailed explaination on accessing these "console commands" & how to go about flagging the Morrigan romance correctly? I'm not the most tech savvy gamer out there:blush:

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Hammer_Of_God wrote...
And if I hadnt have seen this thread, I wouldnt have even been aware that something was amiss, & merely would've ended the expansion feeling 'bleh' about the lack of any reference to my romance with Morrigan <_<

I don't blame you. That's what pretty much everyone feels after finishing Awakening. Isntead of closing the game with a smile on your face you get a "bleh".

The least we can do is let people know about it. Everything you need to know is in this thread(screenshots, console commands, workarounds etc).

A mini-guide on the first post would be a good start. *Shots a glance at the topic creator*

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I just replayed the final battle of origins, didn't speak to morrigan at all, still got the ring ending?

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Isavald wrote...

I just replayed the final battle of origins, didn't speak to morrigan at all, still got the ring ending?


Weird, I just did the same in order to not get it. Are you absolutely sure? Now I'm off to play awakenings through a second time, hopefully now I'll get the epilogue I think I was supposed to get the first time around. Just in case this isn't a bug/is never fixed and has some kind of a consequence in a future expansion/sequel.

#225
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What you get in your origins ending doesn't matter. Before you start Awakening visit your camp and check Morrigan's approval.