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[Corpsebean]

Kind of amazed at how good the new runes are in relation to ease of making them compared to Paragon runes.

Anyhow...

Momentum Runes: Increase attack speed

Intensifying Runes: 20% Critical/Backstab Damage 5% Melee and Critical Chance.


Anyone know which ends up more DPS? I seem to remember there being some issues with various forms of haste stacking, so given that any good DW rogue has momentum already I'm going with 3x Intensifying in each weapon for now.

Modifié par Corpsebean, 19 mars 2010 - 11:12 .

[musashij1]

where do u find the momentum rune? i have checked every merchant in the keep and amarthine

[Finnegone]

Use both - two daggers with a Momentum rune and 5 intensifying runes is overkill. You one-shot nearly everything.



Musashij1 - I found the Momentum rune tracing in Blackmarsh.

[Foolie2]

Enough Momentum runes to get you exactly to the haste cap (each is -.05 attackSpeedModifier), Intensity runes for the rest.

Practically this means:

Haste, but no Momentum-ability, 5 momentum runes, 1 intensity rune
Momentum, but no haste, 4 momentum runes, 2 intensity runes
Haste + Momentum + Precise Striking, 1 momentum rune, 5 intensity runes (I'm not sure if the crit bonus cap has changed, this might be overkill)

(Considering how stupid the game's handling of the haste cap is, I had no qualms giving precise striking to my rogue, not for any of the bonuses, but because the 10% attack speed DECREASE actually lets you stack other haste sources properly)


Finding both of these recipes makes you ridiculous. With DW daggers, my rogue's highest backstab was 563 and he attacked at the absolute maximum speed. (Dual Wield + haste cap + two daggers). The Queen of Blackmarsh lost 90% of her health over the course of a single grab.

Modifié par Foolie2, 20 mars 2010 - 01:27 .

[Finnegone]

Do you happen to know what sort of attack speed bonus Beyond the Veil provides?

[Finnegone]

Modifié par Finnegone, 20 mars 2010 - 09:57 .

[Foolie2]

I think it's -.20.



Haste + Beyond The Veil is under the cap

Haste + Beyond The Veil + Precise Striking + 3 momentum runes is under the cap

Haste + Beyond The Veil + 2 momentum runes is over the cap

[Cell1e]

Hi! This is going to seem pretty strange but I couldnt make runes in my game. I have the abilities and I bought the ingredients but I couldnt find any runes to make patterns from. Just the templates. But it seems you need the liquid, the template and an original rune? I wasnt able to make a single new rune. I am sure I must be doing soemthing really wrong but I could'nt figure out what!

[Silensfurtim]

how come if i have 4 momentum runes and momentum talent on the speed is very slow?

[Finnegone]

Silensfurtim wrote...

how come if i have 4 momentum runes and momentum talent on the speed is very slow?

I believe that, if you meet or exceed the speed cap, your swing speed resets to normal. Try replacing one of the momentum runes with an intesifying rune, and you'll be fine.

Modifié par Finnegone, 21 mars 2010 - 02:34 .

[Silensfurtim]

hmmm there must be a bug. now its working.



Momentum + 4x Momentum Runes

[Basher of Glory]

Cell1e wrote...

Hi! This is going to seem pretty strange but I couldnt make runes in my game. I have the abilities and I bought the ingredients but I couldnt find any runes to make patterns from. Just the templates. But it seems you need the liquid, the template and an original rune? I wasnt able to make a single new rune. I am sure I must be doing soemthing really wrong but I could'nt figure out what!

Perhaps you made the same fault as I did, when I tried to make the first rune: 
I missed to buy the original lowest runes, because there are no templates for these.

The elf vendor in the keep has them in unlimited numbers.

[FerrisMuertis]

Anyone know where do you find the intensifying rune tracing?

[blademaster7]

FerrisMuertis wrote...

Anyone know where do you find the intensifying rune tracing?

From a merchant in The Crow and Lion tavern.

[Xanfaus]

Foolie2 wrote...

Amazingly helpful post.

Thanks for the detailed info. I knew what haste does as far as affecting the speed cap, but the rune information will make things much easier.