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[Ecael]

Posted this on the General Discussion forum, felt that it was relevant to both forums though:

http://social.biowar...3/index/1800851

[Steel Dancer]

I'd tend to doubt it. That was the original intention with ME1 and the outcry from that got it "reduced" to the limited activations thing.

Having said that I'd never underestimate the power of human and corporate idiocy.

[Archereon]

Spuudle: Yes, because a lot of people outside of first world countries (who make up an admittedly small purchasing demograph, but still a significant one) can't get a constant internet connection, and many people still live in areas with horrendously slow internet.

[Vengal345]

If you are purely worried about being able to play the game offline without an issue Steam is a good option since it has offline components, now this could be problematic depending on the steam integration in the future. One example of a game that required you to log in through steam then through games for windows was Dawn of War 2.



Now if you can't get a consistent internet connection at all I'm not really sure what they will do, possible phone activation option?

[superimposed]

Archereon wrote...

Spuudle: Yes, because a lot of people outside of first world countries (who make up an admittedly small purchasing demograph, but still a significant one) can't get a constant internet connection, and many people still live in areas with horrendously slow internet.

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People in first world countries paying $80 a month for unlimited broadband still can't get stable internet connections.

[Archereon]

Superimposed: Yes, but people who aren't in first world countries can rarely get a stable internet connection ever.

[enormousmoonboots]

Yeah, that's working out great for Ubisoft right now, right?



At least consoles have one advantage. My PC can't run anything fresher than KOTOR 2, and I can't say I regret sticking with my PS2/360.

[Jarcander]

superimposed wrote...

People in first world countries paying $80 a month for unlimited broadband still can't get stable internet connections.

Terribly high fee. Change your ISP, now.

[OneBadAssMother]

People in first world countries paying $80 a month for unlimited broadband still can't get stable internet connections.

Agreed, I recently changed my ISP for that reason. Unfortunately, same problems, but much less problems then before thankfully.

[OneBadAssMother]

EDIT: Double post

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 19 mars 2010 - 02:05 .

[Tooneyman]

I just want to make sure when I don't have time to log on to a game I'm allowed to play my character. As long as I can do that I will be happy, but if I don't get to do that Bioware. Prepare for a protest with signs out side your doors and yes there will be a rally, but only because we love you so much and we don't want you cheating your fans out of our awesome game playing experiences you made for us and we paid for. Thank you I love you bioware, but don't do it!

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Jarcander wrote...

superimposed wrote...

People in first world countries paying $80 a month for unlimited broadband still can't get stable internet connections.

Terribly high fee. Change your ISP, now.

Not paying that, but that's a 'main stream' plan. Also, for AU, pretty standard.

[gloowacz]

Archereon wrote...

Spuudle: Yes, because a lot of people outside of first world countries (who make up an admittedly small purchasing demograph, but still a significant one) can't get a constant internet connection, and many people still live in areas with horrendously slow internet.

this.

I'm currently stuck with asymmetric 512/256 kbps connection for which have to pay equivalent of 10-15$ :/

And because it keeps on failing from time to time ME2 tells me sometimes i can't load my saved game cause it can't verify if i'm entitled to my DLC :/

It's infuriating that even purely offline games have to be connected online before they allow me to use them.
to EA and Valve and other DRM-happy companies.

[Vaenier]

When will game developers learn that DRM actually causes pirating...

[Ecael]

Spuudle wrote...

does it really matter?

So if you have to restart from your last autosave because your internet connection fizzled out momentarily, it wouldn't matter to you?

If your internet connection went down and there's no one to leech Wi-Fi off of, you're fine with not being able to play a single-player game?

[superimposed]

They do know it does, they just don't want to listen, not until nobody's buying any of their products on either PC or console.

[superimposed]

Oh, and also, it would compeletely nullify the purpose of LAN gaming, which is supposed to avoid dropouts and so on, amongst other benefits.

[Busomjack]

I don't know if I buy this argument that just because people break rules doesn't mean we shouldn't have rules at all.



It's like someone breaks into a bank so our solution is to remove all security systems because Hell! People are going to steal anyways, right?



I think rather than getting rid of DRM completely, developers should just avoid overly intrusive and burdensome DRM's like Ubisoft implements which end up just punishing legitimate consumers.

[superimposed]

Busomjack wrote...

I don't know if I buy this argument that just because people break rules doesn't mean we shouldn't have rules at all.

It's like someone breaks into a bank so our solution is to remove all security systems because Hell! People are going to steal anyways, right?

I think rather than getting rid of DRM completely, developers should just avoid overly intrusive and burdensome DRM's like Ubisoft implements which end up just punishing legitimate consumers.

Humongous difference.

You put in Security Guards you will stop some Bank Robberies, put in locks, security gates, alarms, you will not just stop bank robberies but deter them.

There's nothing even remotely close to that with Anti-piracy measures because it's digital data, it can be undone.

[Vaenier]

Busomjack wrote...

I don't know if I buy this argument that just because people break rules doesn't mean we shouldn't have rules at all.

It's like someone breaks into a bank so our solution is to remove all security systems because Hell! People are going to steal anyways, right?

The argument is that people steal the game just so they dont have to deal with intrusive DRM. Pirates dont have to deal with needing constant internet connections, limited installs, requiring to have the cd in the tray, they can play the game freely.

[superimposed]

The most Effective deterrents have been built in to the game itself. Parts of the game that just won't work properly without a legitimate copy, but again they've been circumvented after a time.

[Tooneyman]

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!