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[Jarcander]

I can almost imagine Bioware using Harbinger voice, saying: THIS HURTS YOU.

[Busomjack]

Vaenier wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I don't know if I buy this argument that just because people break rules doesn't mean we shouldn't have rules at all.

It's like someone breaks into a bank so our solution is to remove all security systems because Hell! People are going to steal anyways, right?

The argument is that people steal the game just so they dont have to deal with intrusive DRM. Pirates dont have to deal with needing constant internet connections, limited installs, requiring to have the cd in the tray, they can play the game freely.

Seems to me that the solution should be to make DRM less intrusive and to focus on incentives for players to buy the game such as DLC like with what EA does.

I don't believe in just letting the pirates win though.  They're criminals and concessions to crime encourage more crime.

[Wild Still]

Meh, if they decide to go that route I won't buy it, restricting access to a product I paid for in full is a blatant anti-consumer policy. If software developers want to punish software buyers, our recourse is to stop buying software from them, simple as that.

[Busomjack]

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!

You do realize that if you get banend from these forums that you will also lose your Cerberus network access thus barring you from all future DLC and the loss of any current DLC items?

BTW, reported.

[Jarcander]

Busomjack wrote...

You do realize that if you get banend from these forums that you will also lose your Cerberus network access thus barring you from all future DLC and the loss of any current DLC items?

BTW, reported.

If BW banned everyone reported here, you would be gone already.

And that's what we call...

*puts on sunglasses*

...burn.

YEEEEEEEEEEAAA.

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Busomjack wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!

You do realize that if you get banend from these forums that you will also lose your Cerberus network access thus barring you from all future DLC and the loss of any current DLC items?

BTW, reported.

No, he won't.
He will be barred from getting them retail/directly from Bioware itself.

He can still get them.

[Wild Still]

Busomjack wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!

You do realize that if you get banend from these forums that you will also lose your Cerberus network access thus barring you from all future DLC and the loss of any current DLC items?

BTW, reported.

Ummm, dream on. Hypothetical instances are not offenses.

BTW reported for needing a diaper change.

[Tooneyman]

Excuse me I have the right by law to play a game I paid for. That is what I have the right to do. Its on my computer which I paid for. I have the right to play my game. They may have made it for me. Now if the DLC is the reason I can't play it I'm going to hack my system in my computer and remove it by force and delete it.

[Busomjack]

Apparently people aren't familiar with the rules here. Discussion of piracy on these forums is against the TOS.



No, you cannot get DLC without a new retail copy of Mass Effect 2.



You're welcome to try and prove me wrong though. Please do in fact so I can report you.

[OneBadAssMother]

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!

There is... already a fix? WHERE?!?!??!!

@Busomjack

He is not discussing piracy, he mention a mod (aka player-made unofficial fix) for the bug that Bioware has already confirmed AS A BUG.

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 19 mars 2010 - 03:48 .

[BlightWalker]

Busomjack wrote...

Apparently people aren't familiar with the rules here. Discussion of piracy on these forums is against the TOS.

No, you cannot get DLC without a new retail copy of Mass Effect 2.

You're welcome to try and prove me wrong though. Please do in fact so I can report you.

You were the one who started the piracy discussion. Hush.

[Tooneyman]

Busomjack wrote...

Apparently people aren't familiar with the rules here. Discussion of piracy on these forums is against the TOS.

No, you cannot get DLC without a new retail copy of Mass Effect 2.

You're welcome to try and prove me wrong though. Please do in fact so I can report you.

Its not piracy if I didn't steal anything and I'm not stealing anything. I'm just going to play my game. hmm. and that is just that. I support bioware and I think anyone who steals from them is a jerk and needs to get a life. I have paid for all my stuff and I plan on having an N7 tattoo put on my shoulder. I'm modding not pirating.

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Busomjack wrote...

Apparently people aren't familiar with the rules here. Discussion of piracy on these forums is against the TOS.

No, you cannot get DLC without a new retail copy of Mass Effect 2.

You're welcome to try and prove me wrong though. Please do in fact so I can report you.

Yes, you can get DLC without a new retail copy of Mass Effect 2, and without an old one too. It's called Piracy. DLC comes in individual installations and can be pirated just as the game itself can.

[Tooneyman]

OneBadAssMother wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm going to say this for the matter of fact even if it gets me kicked. If I can't play my single player game when I'm offline. Well guess, What I'm going to hack it and then I will play it. Thank goodness for the mod community I love you very much!

There is... already a fix? WHERE?!?!??!!

@Busomjack

He is not discussing piracy, he mention a mod (aka player-made unofficial fix) for the bug that Bioware has already confirmed AS A BUG.

and yes I love you.

[Ecael]

Busomjack wrote...

Seems to me that the solution should be to make DRM less intrusive and to focus on incentives for players to buy the game such as DLC like with what EA does.

I don't believe in just letting the pirates win though.  They're criminals and concessions to crime encourage more crime.

I agree that there needs to be some check in place. However, there is a point where DRM becomes so inconvenient that it encourages piracy rather than hinders it.

There are three things that discourage piracy (not completely) instead of the reverse::
1. Digital distributors (like Steam)
2. DownLoadable Content, or DLC
3. CD-Key based Multiplayer

Most games only need to use one or two or those options to encourage people to go and buy a new copy of the game. Game companies should assume by now that pirates will be able to hack just about anything, so introducing stricter DRM just means a nice challenge for them to handle (and a nice hassle for the actual consumer). What they need to focus on is making sure that most ordinary people won't pirate it.

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I wonder if it's piracy to download the free DLC to a retail copy of Mass Effect 2 from a third party site...

[Busomjack]

I didn't bring up Piracy first, Vaeniar did and the only time I have brought up piracy myself is in response to the posters here who have been endorsing piracy.

[Busomjack]

superimposed wrote...

I wonder if it's piracy to download the free DLC to a retail copy of Mass Effect 2 from a third party site...

reported.

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lawl.



Apparently legal curiosity is a reportable offence.



I just spit my water out I laughed so hard.

[It Is Massively Effective]

Cracking (such as no-cd cracks) or making a backup copy of a game is perfectly legal if you legally own the game and do not intend to distribute it for sharing purposes or financial gain.

Modifié par It Is Massively Effective, 19 mars 2010 - 04:06 .

[Busomjack]

superimposed wrote...

lawl.

Apparently legal curiosity is a reportable offence.

I just spit my water out I laughed so hard.

Not my fault you didn't read the rules.

[superimposed]

I have. Nowhere in the rules does it say curiosity or musings are a reportable offence.

[Wild Still]

Let this thread die guys, righteous indignation and nerd rage are just going to degrade further, let's kill it now.

[superimposed]

Wild Still wrote...

Let this thread die guys, righteous indignation and nerd rage are just going to degrade further, let's kill it now.

But now busomjack's here it's actually getting a little funny.

[OneBadAssMother]

DLC bug is a confirmed f--king bug.



People here are all registered, WTF are you on about Busomjack? Saying "I will report you?!" to people actually trying to help out those who are still waiting on the bug to be fixed.



Modding is piracy? Wow, thats f--king news. Sorry mate, but your attitude I consider very pathetic.