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[Busomjack]

Everyone knows John Romero as the brain child behind the revolutionary Doom and Quake.  He fell from grace after the failure of Daikatana but according to him it was just a misunderstood gem meaning that we the consumers were too stupid to look past the game's horrid AI, muddy visuals, and derivative gameplay.
His reputation was so tarnished that he even got fired from Midway, the same company that brought us such masterpieces as War Gods and Cruis'n USA.  Then he went on to form his own company, Monkeystone games which was dedicated exclusively to making cell phone games.  That lasted a few months and now he has been unemployed except for his apparent upcoming MMORPG which he announced on his blog 6 years ago that we have yet to see a single screenshot of or even know what the name of it is.

It's a shame to see a guy who was in every issue of Next Generation magazine talking about how he had such confidence in his game desigining skills that he even used Ion Storm's resources to hire on his girlfriend as a level designer despite her not having any experience at all in the industry now go on to being an unemployed rich bum who spends his accumulated fortune sitting around with his thumb up his ass in Ironforge and Dalaran while eating pizza.

Still, John Romero cannot be content to have his legacy tarnished and forever be known as a has been.  In the 90's and up until Daikatana John Romero's name was legendary.  This guy is still relatively young and he has time to make a comeback.

I know it's going to happen one day, he just needs to find a company that is willing to hire him.

I suggest we all email Bioware and plead for them to give John Romero a job.  I know Romero's still got some magic up his sleave and it will be such a shame if that is never realized due to some "consumer misunderstandings" about his past projects.

Modifié par Busomjack, 19 mars 2010 - 06:00 .

[Busomjack]

randumb vanguard wrote...

aren't all the games he made really really old now?

Well, yes.  The last console game I think he had any involvement in at all was this crappy Gauntlet game for the previous Xbox back in 2004.  He wasn't even listed in the credits though since Midway fired him for being lazy.

Still, I think Romero wants to redeem himself and Bioware should take advantage of his latent talent by hiring him and making him lead designer for an original intellectual property.

[Busomjack]

Well apparently Romero is still a hardcore gamer so I'm sure he has seen plenty of inspiring work that will motivate him to unearth his upcoming masterpiece whatever it may be. I just think the poor guy should go out with a bang, not a wimper. He was a legend during my gaming childhood and now I hear he works at a Starbucks in Denver Colorado.

In fact, I think I saw him working there once. He made me a Venti Americano. It had a foot long grey hair in it. That was ominous because it made me realize that while legends never die, people do.

John Romero made Doom and Quake which were revolutionary but unless he follows up on that legacy somehow then he will forever be known as a has been. I think Bioware should give Romero the chance to immortalize himself.

[Twitchmonkey]

Unless he's an idiot, he should still have plenty of money, but I think the game industry has just left him in its wake. He's just been out of it too long and if he isn't willing to re-learn some things, he would just have no chance of making a worthwhile contribution. Even if he is willing to work to catch up, that doesn't guarantee he'll make anything great. He's a great relic of a bygone age, that's enough.

[Busomjack]

Well he hasn't been out of the industry for THAT long. I mean, his last major project, Daikatana was just 10 years ago.

I think John Romero is somebody who wakes up every morning and is reminded of how much he misses the days when he was king every time he sees his jelly roles and receding hair line in the mirror.

I mean, he was so hardcore that advertisements would even boldly proclaim to gamers that John Romero, and I quote "is about to make you his ****" followed by "suck it down!"



I remember a long time ago, before Daikatana was out he was already talking about Daikatana II and how it is going to use the Unreal engine.

The original Daikatana was a turning point in gaming history. The 90's was pretty much the era of John Romero and that era ended with Daikatana's failure in 2000. Had it succeeded just imagine how much different things would be today.

[Twitchmonkey]

Busomjack wrote...

Well he hasn't been out of the industry for THAT long. I mean, his last major project, Daikatana was just 10 years ago.
I think John Romero is somebody who wakes up every morning and is reminded of how much he misses the days when he was king every time he sees his jelly roles and receding hair line in the mirror.
I mean, he was so hardcore that advertisements would even boldly proclaim to gamers that John Romero, and I quote "is about to make you his ****" followed by "suck it down!"

I remember a long time ago, before Daikatana was out he was already talking about Daikatana II and how it is going to use the Unreal engine.
The original Daikatana was a turning point in gaming history. The 90's was pretty much the era of John Romero and that era ended with Daikatana's failure in 2000. Had it succeeded just imagine how much different things would be today.

Yeah, that pretty much killed the FPS genre, now FPS gamers are a marginalized fringe group.

[Busomjack]

I was just goddamn waxing Nostalgia.



Obviously Daikatana didn't kill the FPS genre, but it did bring about an end to the era of Romero. Daikatana became a laughing stock and then Halo came out and nobody gave a damn about Romero anymore.



Could you imagine the pain John Romero once felt? It's like having a hot girlfriend dump you and then go on to date another man that she is perfectly happy with.

I know that John Romero resents the success of Halo and is nostalgic for the good old days in Quake when you could fry 20 people in a swimming pool by firing the lightning gun.



I think the truth is that John Romero had his feelings hurt. The failure demoralized him and it's up to us to let him know that even the greats make mistakes now and then. If we can boost his confidence I'm sure we can convince the mods here to talk to Ray Muzyka about hiring John Romero so his legendary talent can reclaim glory days of the past.

[Twitchmonkey]

Even if Romero is of some use to the game industry still, I don't know if he's a good fit for Bioware. Maybe Epic Games will hire him.

[Busomjack]

Well, I know Ion Storm made Anachronox. Not sure how much John Romero was involved with that one but Anachronox was a superb RPG.

[Twitchmonkey]

Busomjack wrote...

Well, I know Ion Storm made Anachronox. Not sure how much John Romero was involved with that one but Anachronox was a superb RPG.

I just think that if he is going to be in an advisor role, it should be in the genre that he is known for. Note that as recently as around 2008 he was involved in an FPS project, but it seems like they went forward with production without him.

[bzombo]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Even if Romero is of some use to the game industry still, I don't know if he's a good fit for Bioware. Maybe Epic Games will hire him.

oh come on. bioware is known for its fps games. that's all they make!

[Busomjack]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Well, I know Ion Storm made Anachronox. Not sure how much John Romero was involved with that one but Anachronox was a superb RPG.

I just think that if he is going to be in an advisor role, it should be in the genre that he is known for. Note that as recently as around 2008 he was involved in an FPS project, but it seems like they went forward with production without him.

Yeah, you're probably right.  Still, I think Bioware could make a cool FPS/RPG hybrid style game like Deus Ex.  Bioware doesn't have any experience with first person shooters so that is where John Romero could come in.

As for that project.  Yeah, that was Severity.  He announced it on youtube back in 2006 and then he said it was cancelled in 2008 which was denied by the development team who later confirmed that John Romero once again could not find work.

John Romero is a guy I can empathize with.  We both are unemployed but don't need to work due to having a lot of left over cash.  I don't have nearly as much cash as John Romero of course but still, we're kind of like brothers.
I've always thought that hair was badass.  I tried to grow my hair like that in high school but since i"m blonde everyone thought I looked gayer than Hell so I cut it.

[Busomjack]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Well, I know Ion Storm made Anachronox. Not sure how much John Romero was involved with that one but Anachronox was a superb RPG.

I just think that if he is going to be in an advisor role, it should be in the genre that he is known for. Note that as recently as around 2008 he was involved in an FPS project, but it seems like they went forward with production without him.

Yeah, you're probably right.  Still, I think Bioware could make a cool FPS/RPG hybrid style game like Deus Ex.  Bioware doesn't have any experience with first person shooters so that is where John Romero could come in.

As for that project.  Yeah, that was Severity.  He announced it on youtube back in 2006 and then he said it was cancelled in 2008 which was denied by the development team who later confirmed that John Romero once again could not find work.

John Romero is a guy I can empathize with.  We both are unemployed but don't need to work due to having a lot of left over cash.  I don't have nearly as much cash as John Romero of course but still, we're kind of like brothers.
I've always thought that hair was badass.  I tried to grow my hair like that in high school but since i"m blonde everyone thought I looked gayer than Hell so I cut it.

Here we go again...

No no...don't go there.  John Romero's situation is similar to mine but his role in life is still that of a game designer.  We may share a similar dilemma but our destinies are different.

He needs to re-establish himself as a dominant figure in the industry and it is my calling to become one of the greatest warriors who has ever lived.

[Daewan]

Similarities:

Frequently mistaken for a woman CHECK
Hasn't done anything worthwhile for years CHECK
Delusional, left out of the loop CHECK
Most valued accomplishments all involved leaving CHECK

It's seriously uncanny how similar you are!

Do you also pick up chicks at Burger King?
Do you have a mail-order bride too?

[Godak]

John Romero's comeback will coincide with the second coming.



(He's actually Jesus!)

[Busomjack]

Godak wrote...

John Romero's comeback will coincide with the second coming.

(He's actually Jesus!)

Quiet junior.  You're not old enough to remember the glory days.

[Busomjack]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Really, Jacky, your arrogance knows no limits, eh? Such a pity...

I have nothing to show but humility to those who are my betters.  As a warrior though, I must presume superiority over all others until proven otherwise lest I waver in the face of danger.

[valkyrie0]

There's no evidence that Romero can revolutionize the games industry as he did in the 90s with so many companies and independent developers around. The only way to know for sure is to have him lead a team and let him have control over the concept and design. DICE would be a better company to do it if Romero were to make an FPS as DICE is experienced in FPSs in the areas where Bioware is not.