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[Kaz]

Shandepared wrote...

I'm still curious about all of this though. Has everyone actually heard Mordin and Garrus voice those dialog files at the time? I took them both there to kill the Reaper last time I played and neither of them had any objection.

Yeah, I took Garrus and Tali, and then Mordin and Thane and each of them said something. I think they didn't say anything on your playthrough because they're both "renegades." I took two "paragons" and they didn't say anything either.

[Barquiel]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Relshar wrote...

Reaper tech means indoctrination. If TIM gets his hands on it you know he is going to indoctrinate human colonies to build his own reaper ship.
Look at Cerberus past record in experiments.

Perhaps, but I think you are missing a few things though.  Shielding, weapons, propulsion, etc..
How the Reapers function and possible weaknesses that we can exploit.

EDI has already datamined the base's computers and got the information from it (both endings...we always get the datapad). I think it doesn't make a huge difference in ME3.

[LoreWalker]

Ramikadyc wrote...

KarmaTheAlligator wrote...


Mordin also stats that if a species isn't ready for the technology, it'll be a disaster like with the Krogans. I really don't understand why those two change their mind on this.

Mordin also says that the technology should come about as a means of compensating for limitations. One could argue that the current galactic races need to make up for a lot of shortcoming if they are to have any hope of defeating the Reapers--thus, the Collector Base.

That it should "come about" (be discovered/invented/developed) as a means for compensating for limitations.

This would be more like copying off somebody else's test.  That would, imo, put this more on the not ready for the technology/disasterous side of the ledger.

Modifié par LoreWalker, 19 mars 2010 - 09:11 .

[Nyx2k]

I choose upon the way I feel at that point of the game. Sometimes I destroy it, sometimes I don´t.

What I´m gonna do once ME3 is out, is playing all 3 Games again with a completely new character, just to have a "complete" playthrough that I like best.

That way I know what happens and which decisions give me the most satisfying result later on.

[Barquiel]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

It is just fun for me to talk about it and theorize and speculate as if the threat was real and how we should go about dealing with it.

You're right^_^

Well, if there was an option to hand the base over to the Council, than I would probably do that.

- evidence!
- all council races should benefit from it (if we find anything useful); but I doubt the Collectors have technology that will help against the reaper fleet (their ship wasn't very advanced)

[Jonathan Shepard]

KillaKow wrote...

I think once they see TIM's evil smirk after he gets the base they realize they probably shouldn't have given him such a massive tech cache.

This was when I realized Bioware stole the choice of who I give the base TO away from me. I'd keep it and give it to the council saying: "HERES YOUR MOTHER EFFING PROOF DAMMET!"
I dun like TIM.:innocent:

[ObserverStatus]

I can't wait to see the Batarian reaper the illusive man puts together!

Modifié par bobobo878, 19 mars 2010 - 10:08 .

[KarmaTheAlligator]

bobobo878 wrote...

I can't wait to see the Batarian reaper the illusive man puts together!

You mean the Vorcha Reaper, surely?

[Inquisitor Recon]

Zaeed made the best point by nature of him being Zaeed. Save the base!

[xedgorex]

I could never keep the base, and this runthrough on my vanguard/insanity was supposed to be my main canon but im going to keep the base then replay through in ME1 to make a new better canon shepard, still vanguard, so i getta play again, super fun! (no sarcasm, im a vanhore)

Modifié par xedgorex, 19 mars 2010 - 10:18 .

[Illuminaut]

The Illusive Man has on several occasions deliberately endangered the lives of Shepard and his entire crew, kept him in the dark about matters that would leave any regular soldier screaming at his superiors until blue in the face and in the end suddenly expects him to turn around and say:



"Hey, no problem! Of course I'll keep this station and all it's wonderous and potentially dangerous technology intact for you!"



Hell no.



TIM's not getting his goddamn toy. He's lucky if he gets a quick death.

[pinzig]

Hell, I'm not even sure that mister robot blue eyes IS human, and not some sinister AI programmed with a directive to save/serve humanity at all costs, or something else entirely (remember, you never meet him in person). Certainly not handing that immoral so and so a collector base.

[Dean_the_Young]

Illuminaut wrote...

The Illusive Man has on several occasions deliberately endangered the lives of Shepard and his entire crew, kept him in the dark about matters that would leave any regular soldier screaming at his superiors until blue in the face and in the end suddenly expects him to turn around and say:

"Hey, no problem! Of course I'll keep this station and all it's wonderous and potentially dangerous technology intact for you!"

Hell no.

TIM's not getting his goddamn toy. He's lucky if he gets a quick death.

...Shepard regularly endangers the lives of his people. There's a scene in which your crewmates will joke about how it's done about twice a day. Shepard will risk lives when he sees it necessary, which was exactly what TIM did in regards to the Collector ship.

Cheesy writing? Sure. Unreasonable? You had to have that data, and you weren't going to get it if the Collectors were in the least warned off. You almost didn't have time to get the data as was.

[Dean_the_Young]

pinzig wrote...

Hell, I'm not even sure that mister robot blue eyes IS human, and not some sinister AI programmed with a directive to save/serve humanity at all costs, or something else entirely (remember, you never meet him in person). Certainly not handing that immoral so and so a collector base.

Since when did someone have to be non-human to be an extreme cost-benefit actor? Shepard has robot eyes, and no one has reason to call him a AI.

[Nightwriter]

This decision had my logic and my emotions see-sawing back and forth.

My emotional instinct after I saw the Illusive Man's calculative smirk upon keeping the base was that I had made the wrong call, and this emotional instinct was further reinforced when all my teammates disagreed with the choice.

My teammates change in heart doesn't help matters. I've never heard any of those comments, not once, except for Miranda's. Why?

[Vegielamb]

Oh boy, so this is how they're dividing up the party for M3.

[Nightwriter]

Vegielamb wrote...

Oh boy, so this is how they're dividing up the party for M3.

Huh?

[Onyx Jaguar]

I know for a fact that Thane, Jacob and Jack do not support keeping the base. Only a couple do support it.