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[Ragnadaam]

exxxed wrote...

Beastfoot wrote...

I am rapidly losing interest in Bioware games! With all this dlc/cut content it seems like we'll end up buying "shells" of games in the future. If you want any meat in it, pay extra....

Is this meat?

www.gametrailers.com/video/kasumi-trailer-mass-effect/63466

More combat... awesome.... *sigh*

First time seeing this,don't wanna be cynical but I have a feeling this might be a short mission.I've heard 90 minutes but wouldn't be suprised if it's 30 or so,,,,,some of Bioware's recent dlc have been short afterall .

[mortons4ck]

scyphozoa wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

those artists at bioware work for free! i'll never pay for dlc!!!!!1111

The artists don't get paid from DLC sales.

but they got paid to create the content. artists receive a paycheck from money that bioware gets from investors.

bioware has to make more money back than they spent. it is called capitalism, welcome

They are paid a salary regardless, they are not paid on commission. Given this is true, the objective becomes to maximize profits for the business with available resources and products. Tack the alternative appearance pack as a free bonus to the $7 premium DLC. People like free bonuses. More people will be enticed to buy said $7 DLC than they would have previously (even if previously they had no desire to buy either DLC before). $7 > $0.

It is called marketing, welcome

[Mercuron]

Looks okay. I'll probably try to get it.



LOL at the people wound up over the value of $2 they haven't even spent yet. For god's sake, at least choose a bigger soapbox to rant on than a $2 DLC - go harrange the Kasumi DLC for being cut-content-I-should-get-for-free or whatever the counterculture club is targeting this week.

[TJSolo]

scyphozoa wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

those artists at bioware work for free! i'll never pay for dlc!!!!!1111

The artists don't get paid from DLC sales.

but they got paid to create the content. artists receive a paycheck from money that bioware gets from investors.

bioware has to make more money back than they spent. it is called capitalism, welcome

The employees made the content and have received compensation.
After that it is EA the decide whether the content created should be free, reasonably priced, or overpriced.
After EA sets the price it is the consumer that is able to decide to buy or not along with consumers being able to voice their opinion of the content, price, or anything based on the product.
Welcome to capitalism in the States.

I will vote with my wallet and voice my opinion on the crap that I see as crap.

[TJSolo]

Mercuron wrote...

Looks okay. I'll probably try to get it.

LOL at the people wound up over the value of $2 they haven't even spent yet. For god's sake, at least choose a bigger soapbox to rant on than a $2 DLC - go harrange the Kasumi DLC for being cut-content-I-should-get-for-free or whatever the counterculture club is targeting this week.

The $2 DLC is actually $8 DLC when you realize all squadmates will get the same treatment.
Then again maybe a $8 soapbox isn't even enough for you. This situation is going to be mountain of bad pay2play DLC if dumb customers just think "it's only 2 bucks" everytime EA decides they want another stipend of your pay check.

[huntrrz]

CatatonicMan wrote...

Charging. For skins.

And the Cerberus Network is for...what, exactly?

The Cerberus Network is for collecting player metrics.  Providing free DLC through it is only an incentive to players to sign up for the service.

It had so much potential, but they are just flushing it down the toilet.

I think people are being a little quick to judge on this.  The major complaints are the cost of the Kasumi DLC - which hasn't been announced yet, and the number of costumes in the Appearance Pack, which hasn't been announced yet.  The pack "includes" Thane, Garrus and Jack but everyone seems to presume that is ALL it contains.  Perhaps we should wait for the details on both these items before condemning Bioware.

[yuncas]

Beastfoot wrote...

Jaysonie wrote...

Beastfoot wrote...

I am rapidly losing interest in Bioware games! With all this dlc/cut content it seems like we'll end up buying "shells" of games in the future. If you want any meat in it, pay extra....

Its not as bad as your making it out to be. We got a full game, just a few small tidbits missings.

Well personally, I prefer to know when I can start playing and get the full experience (yes, even the small things count). Right now ME2 is on hold, only because I don't know when the flow of extra content stops, and what those will be.

Agreed with beastfoot on the second part. Seems like this DLC is set up for a steady influx of cash to the developers. I'm not saying that that is bad thing, but how much money do you need?  I am no financial expert but I'd say this will make Bioware 100,000 $.(<=an arbitrary number)  Is this kind of money gonna be used for large,quality DLC expansions and making ME3 a super awesome blowout (RPG)extravaganza? I hope so. Is this just a money making plan for the sake of making money? I hope not.









Oh, and this IS horse armor. NICE horse armor, but still horse armor. 


*Please no more sunglasses.

 

Modifié par yuncas, 20 mars 2010 - 02:36 .

[mortons4ck]

yuncas wrote...


Oh, and this IS horse armor. NICE horse armor, but still horse armor. 


 

Atleast with Horse armor, more than 25% of the horses got to wear it.

[yuncas]

mortons4ck wrote...

yuncas wrote...


Oh, and this IS horse armor. NICE horse armor, but still horse armor. 


 

Atleast with Horse armor, more than 25% of the horses got to wear it.

True. Agreed.

[CatatonicMan]

huntrrz wrote...
I think people are being a little quick to judge on this.  The major complaints are the cost of the Kasumi DLC - which hasn't been announced yet, and the number of costumes in the Appearance Pack, which hasn't been announced yet.  The pack "includes" Thane, Garrus and Jack but everyone seems to presume that is ALL it contains.  Perhaps we should wait for the details on both these items before condemning Bioware.

You can go ahead and be optimistic, if you want. I'm going to stick with pessimism; it's more reliable.

My main issue is that I really, REALLY hate being nickled-and-dimed. The entire point of the Cerberus Network, as I understood it, was to eliminate this crap. Instead of buying 30 independent fiddly DLCs, you could just get Cerberus Network.

If they wanted to make an actual expansion with substantial content, that would be something not for the network. Everything I've seen and heard so far indicates that every piece of DLC they've made to date is Cerberus Network size, and shouldn't be sold piecemeal.

Doing it otherwise is, well, insulting.

Modifié par CatatonicMan, 20 mars 2010 - 02:47 .

[RadiantViper]

Really wish this was free. Pass.

[LoweGear]

Even when I'm living in a third-world country where the economy isn't quite as good as it is in other states, provided you have a decent salary/allowance $2 isn't really that big - my lunches and dinners at many times cost more (although I admit, that was my choice).



Also, as many others have states it's OPTIONAL. Now, had Bioware released Mass Effect 2 without the ending mission, and required you to have a paid DLC to access the ending then I'd be pissed off. But these extra costumes are not even essential to the game, they're just there to enhance the experience - and if you don't want it, don't buy it; it's not like Bioware's sticking a gun to your face and saying "This one does not know if its heatsink is over capacity, it wonders if the costumer considers itself fortunate".

[Mercuron]

TJSolo wrote...

Mercuron wrote...

Looks okay. I'll probably try to get it.

LOL at the people wound up over the value of $2 they haven't even spent yet. For god's sake, at least choose a bigger soapbox to rant on than a $2 DLC - go harrange the Kasumi DLC for being cut-content-I-should-get-for-free or whatever the counterculture club is targeting this week.

The $2 DLC is actually $8 DLC when you realize all squadmates will get the same treatment.
Then again maybe a $8 soapbox isn't even enough for you. This situation is going to be mountain of bad pay2play DLC if dumb customers just think "it's only 2 bucks" everytime EA decides they want another stipend of your pay check.

Yeah, those customers are complete idiots for seeing $2 as $2 and not as a gradual arm-wrench by EA THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DECIDE NOT TO PAY FOR AT ANY TIME.

[shinugami333]

Jack outfit looks badass except for the glasses they suck big time lol on Thane respective I don't see a difference on his outfit except the glasses and Garrus outfit it was about time it would get fix up or a new one without a hole on his armor lol

[TJSolo]

scyphozoa wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

Mercuron wrote...

Looks okay. I'll probably try to get it.

LOL at the people wound up over the value of $2 they haven't even spent yet. For god's sake, at least choose a bigger soapbox to rant on than a $2 DLC - go harrange the Kasumi DLC for being cut-content-I-should-get-for-free or whatever the counterculture club is targeting this week.

The $2 DLC is actually $8 DLC when you realize all squadmates will get the same treatment.
Then again maybe a $8 soapbox isn't even enough for you. This situation is going to be mountain of bad pay2play DLC if dumb customers just think "it's only 2 bucks" everytime EA decides they want another stipend of your pay check.

why are you upset that you are being offered a product to buy? you can choose not to buy it.

what is the problem? you want it but you don't want to pay for it?

if you want the content then your want is justifcation for a price. how often do you get stuff you want for free, no matter the size or cost?

i love candy bars and damn snickers should just give me candy bars for free because i've supported them so much in the past.
this is not content that is supposed to be a part of the "original product" this is specifically designed dlc made to be available post-launch for a price. it is a business model, why do you find it so offensive?

I am not upset and the fact that a business creates a product to buy is not the point.

Read other opinions on this matter to see the general problem. As it has be stated before; usually revolving around bad price and low actual content.

I don't want to buy anything. I like everything to be free but I can be convinced to buy products that offer quality at a sane price.

I almost never get what I want for free but not really the point.
Being part of the orginal product is not my arguement.

I generally find business practices such as EAs model "providing less for more" , offensive as a customer.
Having a business model doesn't mean it is a good business model. Just like slapping a high price tag on low content DLC is capitalistic but not necessarily smart business tactics.

So spare me the simple idea that goods are meant to be sold crap.
If you care to dive into the actual topic of the badly priced Appearance Pack 1, reply to me.
If you just want to state general economics, I would rather just read my Econ book then your arbitrary statements.

[TJSolo]

Mercuron wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

Mercuron wrote...

Looks okay. I'll probably try to get it.

LOL at the people wound up over the value of $2 they haven't even spent yet. For god's sake, at least choose a bigger soapbox to rant on than a $2 DLC - go harrange the Kasumi DLC for being cut-content-I-should-get-for-free or whatever the counterculture club is targeting this week.

The $2 DLC is actually $8 DLC when you realize all squadmates will get the same treatment.
Then again maybe a $8 soapbox isn't even enough for you. This situation is going to be mountain of bad pay2play DLC if dumb customers just think "it's only 2 bucks" everytime EA decides they want another stipend of your pay check.

Yeah, those customers are complete idiots for seeing $2 as $2 and not as a gradual arm-wrench by EA THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DECIDE NOT TO PAY FOR AT ANY TIME.

So what do you see? I see a DLC pack with the incremental number 1 and only 3 characters out of 12 getting reskins. Leading me to believe there will be more appearance packs covering 3 characters at a time.

A customer that can't see that more packs are coming should rightfully be called an idiot.

[huntrrz]

CatatonicMan wrote...

huntrrz wrote...
I think people are being a little quick to judge on this.  The major complaints are the cost of the Kasumi DLC - which hasn't been announced yet, and the number of costumes in the Appearance Pack, which hasn't been announced yet.  The pack "includes" Thane, Garrus and Jack but everyone seems to presume that is ALL it contains.  Perhaps we should wait for the details on both these items before condemning Bioware.

You can go ahead and be optimistic, if you want. I'm going to stick with pessimism; it's more reliable.

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You're welcome to your opinion, but I think it's setting the bar too high to call withholding judgement "optimistic".  "Optimistic" would be presuming that there WILL be more costumes in the pack and most people will like them.

Withholding judgement is just... withholding judgement.

ET: fix quotes

Modifié par huntrrz, 20 mars 2010 - 03:19 .

[huntrrz]

I quoted when I should have edited...

Modifié par huntrrz, 20 mars 2010 - 03:17 .

[Techo Angel]

How are we going to be able to by this and the Kasumi DLC for the PC? Will we be able to buy it threw the Cerberus Network?

[CatatonicMan]

huntrrz wrote...

You're welcome to your opinion, but I think it's setting the bar too high to call withholding judgement "optimistic".  "Optimistic" would be presuming that there WILL be more costumes in the pack and most people will like them.

Withholding judgement is just... withholding judgement.

ET: fix quotes

It's more optimistic then I'm willing to be.