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[Urazz]

Relshar wrote...

No point to this DLC to be honest adds nothing playable or long term to the game. Just a waste of money for some fancy clothes.

I got it mainly for the new costume for Garrus.  I was tired of seeing him with damaged armor.  Otherwise, I'm not buying the other alternate appearance DLCs unless all of them in the next one really kicks ass.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

I'm surprised that Bioware didn't throw in another alternate appearance for Miranda. I could only assume that It would be an outfit that shows off lots of cleavage and daisy dukes with her **** hanging out. I suppose they were wise to hold back on any Miranda outfit DLC. I could almost hear the nerd-gasms if they did that.



I suppose they are saving it for the next DLC.

[ZodiakZen]

I just saw Garrus new armor and I bought it ASAP lol. I amfond of Jack's loyalty outfit and I kinda like Thane's Matrix appearance.

[Gundar3]

The only outfit I dont really like is the one for Thane, although I suppose the style of shades do fit him. I like the shades and vest for Jack and the repaired armor for Garrus.

[incinerator950]

I like the new outfit on Jack, and even though I found Garrus' Armor damage to be quite awesome, and character adding, the new Armor isn't shabby looking.



Quite frankly I have a lot of points to ****** around on small things, and it's not bothering me.

[purplesunset]

incinerator950 wrote...


Quite frankly I have a lot of points to ****** around on small things, and it's not bothering me.

More power to you. The problem is that if you guys buy this stuff up, then Bioware has no incentive to make content for those people who don't  have a ton of extra points to ****** around. That's the reason why they voice their opinion.

In the past, unpaid modders have put blood, sweat, tears and many hours into content which they later released for free.

That a paid Bioware  staff could squirt soemthing like this out, charge money for it, and still be ardently defended against the slightest of criticism is just incomprehensible to me.

No, it's not mandatory. Yes, no one is required to buy it. But the people who do buy it, also affect the people who don't buy it because of what I said in my first paragraph. No action is done in a vacuum, they all have consequences.

[incinerator950]

purplesunset wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...


Quite frankly I have a lot of points to ****** around on small things, and it's not bothering me.

More power to you. The problem is that if you guys buy this stuff up, then Bioware has no incentive to make content for those people who don't  have a ton of extra points to ****** around. That's the reason why they voice their opinion.

In the past, unpaid modders have put blood, sweat, tears and many hours into content which they later released for free.

That a paid Bioware  staff could squirt soemthing like this out, charge money for it, and still be ardently defended against the slightest of criticism is just incomprehensible to me.

No, it's not mandatory. Yes, no one is required to buy it. But the people who do buy it, also affect the people who don't buy it because of what I said in my first paragraph. No action is done in a vacuum, they all have consequences.

I've already stated my opinion about the Kasumi DLC.  I am saying I have enough points as of now to ****** out on it (got for free too).  However, I'll repeat myself.  Kasumi feels overhyped, and I do not believe it is worth the 560 points it's supposingly going to be priced.  I do not believe it will be an extra hour of gameplay, and I do not believe Kasumi and the Locust are going to be worth anything.  However, I have all the DLC to date minus the Incisor, so I'm simply collecting for the sake of collecting.

This is the kind of stuff I'd spend left over points on, but none of it I would actually go out and get points for.

Modifié par incinerator950, 03 avril 2010 - 06:19 .

[purplesunset]

incinerator950 wrote...

This is the kind of stuff I'd spend left over points on, but none of it I would actually go out and get points for.

I understand what you're trying to say.

But can't you see that from Bioware's perspective, you are exactly equal to those people who did go out and buy points for it ?

It's like saying, "I wouldn't go out of my way to buy snake oil, but if the snake oil vendor passes by my door, I'll buy it" When the snake oil merchant gets your money, it wouldn't matter how you justified the purchase to yourself. You're a customer to him, and more importantly, you're encouraging him to make more snake oil.

[GreenSoda]

purplesunset wrote...
I understand what you're trying to say.

But can't you see that from Bioware's perspective, you are exactly equal to those people who did go out and buy points for it ?

It's like saying, "I wouldn't go out of my way to buy snake oil, but if the snake oil vendor passes by my door, I'll buy it" When the snake oil merchant gets your money, it wouldn't matter how you justified the purchase to yourself. You're a customer to him, and more importantly, you're encouraging him to make more snake oil.

You assume BW would make stuff for free if only those trivial DLCs, like the appearance pack, wouldn't sell.

I think BW would simply stop making additional stuff altogether.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 03 avril 2010 - 06:50 .

[ToJKa1]

GreenSoda wrote...

purplesunset wrote...
I understand what you're trying to say.

But can't you see that from Bioware's perspective, you are exactly equal to those people who did go out and buy points for it ?

It's like saying, "I wouldn't go out of my way to buy snake oil, but if the snake oil vendor passes by my door, I'll buy it" When the snake oil merchant gets your money, it wouldn't matter how you justified the purchase to yourself. You're a customer to him, and more importantly, you're encouraging him to make more snake oil.

You assume BW would make stuff for free if only those trivial DLCs, like the appearance pack, wouldn't sell.

I think BW would simply stop making additional stuff altogether.

I'd rather think they would make worthwhile DLC if this stuff wouldn't sell. They need to make money, and like any business they want to make it with least effort possible. If people buy Alternate Appearance packs, there's no need to make mission DLCs.

[Klimy]

Didn't post anything until played it myself. And have to say that its nice. The cost was worth the product. Not expensive to complain and definitely fixed two things that bunged me:

- Not a young teen thus don't need to see half naked chick in my game aka Jack.

- Garrus armor is now fixed and looks very stylish.



I still didn't try Thane, but had nothing against his former outfit, so don't think it will be something special, but nice anyway.



So if BW will decide to make more outfits for the rest of the crew, maybe even some additional for the ones they already covered, then I will buy it.

[purplesunset]

In response to GreenSoda:

I saw this from a gamespot forum:

1) We don't buy crappy DLC, Bioware decides it's because the DLC is crappy and they make a better one.

2) We don't buy crappy DLC, Bioware decides it's because we don't buy DLC, they don't make anything at all.

Similarly...

1) We buy crappy DLC, Bioware decides it's great and makes more of the same.

2) We buy crappy DLC, Bioware decides that we're going to want more and makes better DLC.

Now, according to what I know about how businesses work, their goal is to reduce costs, and increase profits.

Based on that, the number 1's are the most probable outcomes.

Modifié par purplesunset, 03 avril 2010 - 07:21 .

[Code_R]

Its on Cerburus but still costs points. No thanks Bioware, the costumes you gave us already are fine. At least the other stuff is free, I hate the whole DLC culture games have nowadays of cutting out stuff to sell it later.



On another topic - why are some sections locked to me? I cant see reasons in the FAQ. I'd register ME2 but it belongs to my other half.

[Melodar]

Frankly this should have been a free DLC and the horrid Firewalker DLC paid for. That way we could pass on it as it is a completely useless dlc and saving grace to it is that unlike the Mako you can go in a straight line.

[Darc Wing Duk]

Personally I'm kind of surprised at how stressed out some of you folks are getting. There's so many different ways to look at the situation that are being completely ignored. Sure a few alternate costumes aren't really a big deal and should probably be offered for free, but if you don't think the costumes are that special or important, why are you acting so upset you're not getting it for free anyway? You're sort of contradicting yourselves.

I say sort of because I also understand that your main issue (or at least, what you claim to be your main issue) is that supporting this costume pack DLC might create a stigma where BioWare continues to release content that really doesn't create any new gameplay, and then charges for it.

But you're kind of getting ahead of yourselves. One thing that keeps getting said is "THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THEY SAID WE'D GET FOR FREE" ... that's kind of a vague statement. They said the Cerberus Network would give us access to a bunch of free content. And... uh, it has. Was it ever said that ALL DLC would be free? No. And it's not. And it's just kind of that simple, I don't understand the major malfunction folks are experiencing.

Most likely, they figured the costume packs would be an easy couple bucks. A lot of people love playing dress up with their RPG characters. It's a totally unnecessary addition but one a lot of people will be willing to pay the price of a candy bar for.

But I mean, I don't know. Zaeed was free. An entire character and sideplot, a character I ended up using a LOT, and I got it for free.

I use the Arc Projector constantly, it's been loads of fun.

Firewalker is short, but I personally find it really entertaining.

And there's other little bits too, right? I'd go so far as to call you people discontented, ungrateful. The fact is, I had no bloody idea that people buying Mass Effect 2 new would get a Cerberus Network code. I bought it new because it's Mass Effect 2, and I knew it would be an awesome experience, and it was. One of my top 5 favorite games I've ever played, easily. If they started charging an extra five bucks for their games, I'd still pay it, because honestly, it's BioWare, and as long as they're doing what they do best, as well as they've done it in the past (it's only getting better in my opinion) then I'll certainly be willing to spend my money on a product that's hand over fist better than the majority of material in the market right now.

Sure it's scary to think that the company might actually be trying to make money now, God forbid. But Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are their first titles out since joining EA, and frankly, if this is any indication of what's in store, then frankly, they can have my money. We're consumers, we're going to be spending our money on all kinds of useless entertainment anyway, I really don't mind supporting such an awesome gaming company.

Not only that, but you've got to realize that someone's keeping track of how much this stuff gets downloaded, whether it's free or not. They'll see the millions of downloads people have been making of their free content, and I'm sure it will be more than the amount of downloads of the costume pack. And they'll see how providing the free content is keeping us interested, making us continue the play the game, and basically, how interested we are in their product. They're not stupid. If it's creating interest, they're going to keep releasing free content.

Anyway, the point is, I got the game to play the game, not because someone promised me free DLC. But I got the free DLC anyway. And now there's a costume pack. For two bucks. And you guys are making a really big deal about it. And I just think that's stupid. And petty. And it pretty much just makes you sound cheap.

Modifié par Darc Wing Duk, 08 avril 2010 - 09:08 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Darc Wing Duk wrote...

Stuff

Great work necrotising this thread dude.  We really wanted to start this up again, really we did, thanks!

*Shoots necromancer*