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[Chala]

Salvartoreleone1 wrote...

When are we getting some sunglasses for shepard? I want Horatio Shepard!

I WANT CSI MASS EFFECT!!!

[Tasker]

1Parmenides wrote...

They really should have included this in a larger DLC with quests. This is like Bethseda's horse armor joke.

Well, I know I won't feel like I'm missing out.

Exactly, stuff like this should ( in my opinion ) be added to more substantial content, in order to bulk them out a little and make them more value for money.

[Invalidcode]

It's not that we want it for free - or at least that isn't it for me - but it's more a case of what they're offering isn't worth the price.

Oh I got that, I am only addressing to the people want it for free, I won't get this dlc myself, 2bucks is very little money but the content doesn't justify the price.

How much a dlc should cost should determined by the cousmer himself/herself, don't think it's worth it? Don't buy it, vote with money. Actually appliable to the people that want it for free too! If those thinks that it worth nothing and should cost nothing (but it isn't, it cost $2), don't buy it.

[yoomazir]

Invalidcode wrote...

I get your point, (for example vs mode in Resident Evil 5, WTF is that Capaom?!) thing is. No one,(ok maybe a few people out of the millions copies that ME2 sold) complained about the game should cost $57.99 instead of $59.99 because each character only have 1 altantive look. ME2 is worth the price we paid for. BW put out more stuff and that want to get paid for it, but people want it for free(understandable of course), but because it isn't (holy molly a company wants to make money from their product?!) and now people are flaming BW for it.

Well, at least you are aware of the perverse effect of the DLC related content. I 'm talking about all DLC in general, the line between real additional content  and cut content is getting thin and seeing how late games ( like RE5, Bioshock 2 or AC2) DLC's are it's not the company making you a favor by releasing dlc... it's you being held for ransom.

The thing is, most of the people who bought ME2 are people who have playing ME1.
You know that the only thing we saw from ME2 before release was some cutscene and some shooting playthrough videos, who would have guessed that from a game that had lots of armors, weapons and more for your squadmates you would end up eventually with one outfit for each team member ( whitout including Shepard) and that now you need to PAY for some cosmetic outfit for only 3 squadmates.

I wouldn't have cared if this game didn't have "ME2" has the title, but seeing this is the successor of a much much deeper game in that aspect I can only think of robbery.

Modifié par yoomazir, 19 mars 2010 - 11:25 .

[Tasker]

yoomazir wrote...

Invalidcode wrote...

I get your point, (for example vs mode in Resident Evil 5, WTF is that Capaom?!) thing is. No one,(ok maybe a few people out of the millions copies that ME2 sold) complained about the game should cost $57.99 instead of $59.99 because each character only have 1 altantive look. ME2 is worth the price we paid for. BW put out more stuff and that want to get paid for it, but people want it for free(understandable of course), but because it isn't (holy molly a company wants to make money from their product?!) and now people are flaming BW for it.

Well, at least you are aware of the perverse effect of the DLC related content. I 'm talking about all DLC in general, the line between real additional content  and cut content is getting thin and seeing how late games ( like RE5, Bioshock 2 or AC2) DLC's are it's not the company making you a favor by releasing dlc... it's you being held for ransom.

The thing is, most of the people who bought ME2 are people who have playing ME1.
You know that the only thing we saw from ME2 was soem cutscene and some shooting playthrough videos, who would have guessed that from a game that had lots of armors, weapons and more for your squadmates you would end up eventually with one outfit for each team member ( whitout including Shepard) and that now you need to PAY for some cosmetic outfit for only 3 squadmates.

I wouldn't have cared if this game didn't have "ME2" has the title, but seeing this is the successor of a much much deeper game in that aspect I can only think of robbery.

Makes you wonder if we could end up with all the stuff removed from ME1 being made available as DLC. 

"Elevator and Airlock pack"    600 Points
"Weapon Mod System pack"    300 Points
"Armour Mod System pack"    300 Points
"Loot and Inventory pack"    1200 Points

-EDIT-

Oh, and...

"Crouch pack"    120 Points

Modifié par Orkboy, 19 mars 2010 - 11:30 .

[TJSolo]

Invalidcode wrote...
Oh I got that, I am only addressing to the people want it for free, I won't get this dlc myself, 2bucks is very little money but the content doesn't justify the price.

Well if people think it isn't even worth $2 then the only prices left are $1 and Free.

Let me see; crappy reskins on Thane and SuZe w/shades that look like tape and actually work to provide undamaged an undamaged appearance for Garrus.

I would buy Garrus alone for $1 while the other two actually detract from the price.

[chikndip]

Cancermeat wrote...

Shepard: Hey Jack your Hot Topic order came in.

LOL! 

[yoomazir]

Orkboy wrote...
Makes you wonder if we could end up with all the stuff removed from ME1 being made available as DLC. 

"Elevator and Airlock pack"    600 Point
"Weapon Mod System pack"    300 Points
"Armour Mod System pack"    300 Points
"Loot and Inventory pack"    1200 Points

Believe me, everything is possible in the times we are currently living.

[Invalidcode]

yoomazir wrote...


Well, at least you are aware of the perverse effect of the DLC related content. I 'm talking about all DLC in general, the line between real additional content  and cut content is getting thin and seeing how late games ( like RE5, Bioshock 2 or AC2) DLC's are it's not the company making you a favor by releasing dlc... it's you being held for ransom.

The thing is, most of the people who bought ME2 are people who have playing ME1.
You know that the only thing we saw from ME2 was soem cutscene and some shooting playthrough videos, who would have guessed that from a game that had lots of armors, weapons and more for your squadmates you would end up eventually with one outfit for each team member ( whitout including Shepard) and that now you need to PAY for some cosmetic outfit for only 3 squadmates.

I wouldn't have cared if this game didn't have "ME2" has the title, but seeing this is the successor of a much much deeper game in that aspect I can only think of robbery.

There are many types for dlc now, crap from Nacmo-bandai to some good
ones like the new chapters for RE5.

Let me clarfiy a bit, I am not flaming people want stuff for free, I want it too! My point is in this case flaming BW because they want to charge money for this DLC is weird, doesn't make too much sense.

This one BW have is the fluff type, it is not unreasonable for BW to charge money for it. (It's like the new colors in Blazblue, really overpriced content, but it's just...color)

[Andaius20]

Go visit the Modding thread, you can basically get this level of modification for free already!

[Trauma3x]

costumes are pretty tight, not feelin the glasses but I'll buy it just to fix up Garrus

[TJSolo]

Invalidcode wrote...

yoomazir wrote...


Well, at least you are aware of the perverse effect of the DLC related content. I 'm talking about all DLC in general, the line between real additional content  and cut content is getting thin and seeing how late games ( like RE5, Bioshock 2 or AC2) DLC's are it's not the company making you a favor by releasing dlc... it's you being held for ransom.

The thing is, most of the people who bought ME2 are people who have playing ME1.
You know that the only thing we saw from ME2 was soem cutscene and some shooting playthrough videos, who would have guessed that from a game that had lots of armors, weapons and more for your squadmates you would end up eventually with one outfit for each team member ( whitout including Shepard) and that now you need to PAY for some cosmetic outfit for only 3 squadmates.

I wouldn't have cared if this game didn't have "ME2" has the title, but seeing this is the successor of a much much deeper game in that aspect I can only think of robbery.

There are many types for dlc now, crap from Nacmo-bandai to some good
ones like the new chapters for RE5.

Let me clarfiy a bit, I am not flaming people want stuff for free, I want it too! My point is in this case flaming BW because they want to charge money for this DLC is weird, doesn't make too much sense.

This one BW have is the fluff type, it is not unreasonable for BW to charge money for it. (It's like the new colors in Blazblue, really overpriced content, but it's just...color)

This is going to be the norm for EA Bioware as long as gamers buy it.
ME2 launched in Jan and will be used for the entire year as a test DLC Price is Right game.
Everything will be markedup a lot higher then normal DLC would be and yes EA will be charging for things that could within all reason be free.

[Tasker]

TJSolo wrote...

Invalidcode wrote...

yoomazir wrote...


Well, at least you are aware of the perverse effect of the DLC related content. I 'm talking about all DLC in general, the line between real additional content  and cut content is getting thin and seeing how late games ( like RE5, Bioshock 2 or AC2) DLC's are it's not the company making you a favor by releasing dlc... it's you being held for ransom.

The thing is, most of the people who bought ME2 are people who have playing ME1.
You know that the only thing we saw from ME2 was soem cutscene and some shooting playthrough videos, who would have guessed that from a game that had lots of armors, weapons and more for your squadmates you would end up eventually with one outfit for each team member ( whitout including Shepard) and that now you need to PAY for some cosmetic outfit for only 3 squadmates.

I wouldn't have cared if this game didn't have "ME2" has the title, but seeing this is the successor of a much much deeper game in that aspect I can only think of robbery.

There are many types for dlc now, crap from Nacmo-bandai to some good
ones like the new chapters for RE5.

Let me clarfiy a bit, I am not flaming people want stuff for free, I want it too! My point is in this case flaming BW because they want to charge money for this DLC is weird, doesn't make too much sense.

This one BW have is the fluff type, it is not unreasonable for BW to charge money for it. (It's like the new colors in Blazblue, really overpriced content, but it's just...color)

This is going to be the norm for EA Bioware as long as gamers buy it.
ME2 launched in Jan and will be used for the entire year as a test DLC Price is Right game.
Everything will be markedup a lot higher then normal DLC would be and yes EA will be charging for things that could within all reason be free.

Hmmm... Makes a bit of sense.

Afterall, thinking back on it, before Modern Warfare 2 was released, EA actually admitted they were charging more for it than normal games, purely because they knew that people would pay it.

[Invalidcode]

TJSolo wrote...

This is going to be the norm for EA Bioware as long as gamers buy it.
ME2 launched in Jan and will be used for the entire year as a test DLC Price is Right game.
Everything will be markedup a lot higher then normal DLC would be and yes EA will be charging for things that could within all reason be free.

Not just EA BW, almost every non-indi Dev/Pub is doing it/goint to do it. Micro-transaction (DLC being the main part) business for games was planned years a go and it will keep growing until(if ever)some dramatic change happens.

[cos1ne]

This is in response to Slidell505 in the other thread (don't know if he's in here too).....



I said I wouldn't put something that served no purpose as free on the Cerberus Network, if I could control it, because the freebies on the Cerberus Network should be things the developers would want to test out. Which is why I think they are putting all of these heavy weapons for free to test out new mechanics and find bugs in the system (for free as we've become unwitting game testers). Also it's why the Hammerhead is for free but Kasumi is not. Also by putting these free things up for download they give us a trial of what paid for DLC will be like.



They are all ready quite aware of how recolors work, see our "alternate costumes" so why not charge for them? Also we all know exactly what the costume pack will entail so why do we need a "trial"?

[yoomazir]

Also, I would like to mention Team Fortress 2 as an example.
From it's release, Valve has released countless of upgrades like armors, skills , weapons, maps, etc etc ...all of this for FREE!
I mean why, why would have they done that? why couldn't they just charge 1,2 or 3 bucks for each update? or made an priced expansion for all the hardwork they' ve put behind it? maybe because like that they make their customers happy? maybe because it stop the players from going to another rival game? maybe because it help selling the game months after it's release?
The correct answer is : all of them.

This is the kind of marketing philosophy I would like to see from Bioware, they would have so much to gain by doing that rather than starting to ask 2 dollars for sunglasses....

Modifié par yoomazir, 19 mars 2010 - 11:45 .

[TJSolo]

Invalidcode wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

This is going to be the norm for EA Bioware as long as gamers buy it.
ME2 launched in Jan and will be used for the entire year as a test DLC Price is Right game.
Everything will be markedup a lot higher then normal DLC would be and yes EA will be charging for things that could within all reason be free.

Not just EA BW, almost every non-indi Dev/Pub is doing it/goint to do it. Micro-transaction (DLC being the main part) business for games was planned years a go and it will keep growing until(if ever)some dramatic change happens.

I am not arguing that it is not done anywhere or that EA is the lesser of any evil.
My statements are revovling aroung at how voracious EA is and frankly they are part of a pack leading the way offering nickel and dime DLC that aren't worth dimes or nickels.

Even if sales of their DLC go down or don't meet expectations the blame will fall on Bioware, customers, and the favored scapegoat pirates. EA will use those excuses to increase the cost of DLC rather than obeying the laws of supply/demand.

[eternalnightmare13]

Garrus' armor lucks a lot better so I may pick it up since it's only 2 bucks. Garrus is my XO so he deserves some new duds.

Modifié par eternalnightmare13, 19 mars 2010 - 11:50 .

[Apollo Starflare]

Plus if they wanted to make us all happy with sunglasses they should have spent the time developing a 'toggle aviators' option. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

[yoomazir]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Plus if they wanted to make us all happy with sunglasses they should have spent the time developing a 'toggle aviators' option. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Somehow, seeing sunglasse , toggle and the yeaaah in the same sentence made me think of David Caruso in CSI Miami.

Modifié par yoomazir, 19 mars 2010 - 11:54 .

[xFred72x]

WOW. Thanks to whoever stickied this and edited it to completely erase the original intent of the topic.

[Ragnadaam]

"Hmmm... Makes a bit of sense.

Afterall, thinking back on it, before Modern Warfare 2 was released, EA actually admitted they were charging more for it than normal games, purely because they knew that people would pay it."


Err you're probl thing of Activison .Anyway this might become the norm for BW as I'm certain that this is only  the first alternate experience pack,outfits for everyone else are sure to follow especially Tali .I'm hoping Bioware doesn't just pump out tons of worthless dlc to overcompensate for their lack of Me1 dlc or as Ea's "test dlc",but that has yet to be seen.
Edit:messed up with qoutes

Modifié par Ragnadaam, 19 mars 2010 - 11:57 .

[Tasker]

Bugger, you got me, for some reason I always had CoD down as an EA game. 

Modifié par Orkboy, 19 mars 2010 - 11:58 .

[mortons4ck]

I'd get it if the costume pack covered the other 9 characters as well. I mean, as much grief people give to Bethesda about the Horse Armor, at least all the horses got armor (well, except the unicorn).


Also, unless you're JC Denton or the Blues Brothers. You don't wear your sunglasses at night. Period.

Modifié par mortons4ck, 20 mars 2010 - 12:05 .

[Grawl]

Invalidcode wrote...

Why should it be free? It wasn't free to make them.

Well, some DLC is free but it must have costed Bioware at some point to pay for the programmers and all of the staff that worked on that particular DLC... Don't really think your argument is valid there...

I will probably buy it only because of Garrus' armor and to help them make more DLC. (if they do 3 more DLC like that, it's almost 8$ easy bucks for them, only changing textures on the unwraps )