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[Capitan E.O]

As a mass effect fan i am sorry to say that this will be my first mass effect download from the torrent sites. 7$ for what??? why don't cerberus members get that for free? i paid enough money for the collectors edition. oh well download ended lets get this over with...

[cerberus1701]

Capitan E.O wrote...

As a mass effect fan i am sorry to say that this will be my first mass effect download from the torrent sites. 7$ for what??? why don't cerberus members get that for free? i paid enough money for the collectors edition. oh well download ended lets get this over with...

And yet another person with entitlement issues.

Sigh.

[Harorrd]

I cant find this Download in the game promotions tab? what did i do wrong?

[darknoon5]

Capitan E.O wrote...
*whine whine whine*7$ *whine whine whine*

Cool story, bro

[Lavans6879]

Capitan E.O wrote...

As a mass effect fan i am sorry to say that this will be my first mass effect download from the torrent sites. 7$ for what??? why don't cerberus members get that for free? i paid enough money for the collectors edition. oh well download ended lets get this over with...

Agreed. People that already shelled out the extra money for the Collector's Edition shouldn't have to pay for Kasumi. There's just not enough content to justify it. Plus, Kasumi was originally slated to be an original launch character.

BioWare is, simply put, turning into a sellout company. Given they were bought out by EA, I'm not surprised.

Modifié par Lavans6879, 10 avril 2010 - 08:46 .

[Lavans6879]

cerberus1701 wrote...

And I love: 


"This is the reason why people are resorting to piracy"
 
Most people resort to piracy simply because they don't want to pay for something. They are unsure of the game and don't want to spend the $. They whine about being "burned" by a previous title, but, rather than avoid the developer's work, they tell themselves it's ok to steal it because, "I already gave them $50 for the last piece of crap. They owe me"

Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

[danielov120]

how i cen downlod this DLC?

[Gocad]

Lavans6879 wrote...
Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

I'm totally waiting for someone to suggest that something like the Mass Effect series should be free and companies like Bioware should totally depend on donations from happy fans...I'm pretty sure that would work well.

(The statement above may contain sarcasm.)

[DC86]

Lavans6879 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

And I love: 


"This is the reason why people are resorting to piracy"
 
Most people resort to piracy simply because they don't want to pay for something. They are unsure of the game and don't want to spend the $. They whine about being "burned" by a previous title, but, rather than avoid the developer's work, they tell themselves it's ok to steal it because, "I already gave them $50 for the last piece of crap. They owe me"

Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

Listen, if you think that this content is not worth your cash: simply do not buy it. Do not resort to such dishonorable means as piracy, please. Do not try to legitimize such behavior.

[Lavans6879]

I think you guys are missing the point. The point is that the DLC offers maybe 1 hour worth of gameplay...3 for the casual gamer. Yet BioWare expects people to chalk up...what? $7? $10 bucks for it? Then take into consideration the cost of Mass Effect 2, $50 minimum for the PC and $60 for the 360. ME2 offers a solid 30+ hour game experience.

Dare I ask, where is the justification in spending 1/5th the total cost of a 30+ hour game for an additional hour? Honestly, there is none, just like how there's no justification in charging more money for the console version over the PC version. I know that some people will disagree, but that's merely because those who do are most probably loyalists.

Modifié par Lavans6879, 10 avril 2010 - 10:22 .

[Gocad]

The whole X $/hour angle is pointless really. Kasumi actually gives you an incentive to play the entire game again...which takes about 20-30 hours.



If you don't like it, fine, that's your problem.

[Lavans6879]

Oh please, if BioWare -actually- cared about giving people an incentive to play their game again, then they would have released a SDK. And no, hour to cost ratios aren't pointless as they generally give a basic idea of what the game is worth. But then again, I expect you to be a fanboy that'll say anything to get in bed with BioWare. Either that, or you spent your parents' money on the game, so you have no concept of value.

Modifié par Lavans6879, 10 avril 2010 - 10:41 .

[danielassault]

SaddleTrampNC wrote...

I dare say that the info on the Alliance was the bait to hook Cerberus and peak Shep's interest. As the title says, 'Stolen Memories', all she wanted out of it were the last memories of her boyfriend. All IMO, of course.

You see, if we were told that there was no information and it was all made up to get Shepard's attention, that would be an answer, and an interesting one at that. It would also add another layer to Kasumi's character, seeing that she would lie to get what she wants, even to Commander Shepard or an orginazation such as Cerebrus. That would show power in the character.

[xillimies]

so, any plans to ship this out to stores when theres more dlc out? like bethesda did with fallot3 dlc, since im sure there are people who can't buy it through the interwebs like me. something to do with my bank not allowing dollar to euro transactions... *shrug*

[PunkBobPlaidPants]

This dlc was decent, not enough of a story.....what was in the memories that was worth getting shot over? Hopefully there is a follow up...also I can't talk to her like a normal member of my crew? I don't care about Z but give me a few standard talking points. It just makes the member who can't like they aren't real members of the crew. blah.

[Fingolfin09]

The only downside with this Dlc is that i cant even talk with her i mean enter into a conversation on the Normandy. the only way to open a conversation is to click on a god damn head and portrait (same thing with Zaeed) but i loved the mission.

[sanityleak]

the hour to $ argument /is/ pointless. what if someone replays the game twice? what about the tendency for gamers not to even beat the first 4 hours of the game, they just paid money for? are we then going to rate it at the 4 hours they did play, or the 60 hours they could have played? did they do the 'fast' run through, or take their time poking in every corner of the galaxy for 40 hours of gameplay?



The idea you can rate something just by the time it takes to complete it is asinine. You rate it by the QUALITY of the product. Time is subjective to how long you want to spend in a segment, and can go up. They didn't promise you anything beyond a mission, and a loyalty mission. If after doing that 9 times before you can't figure out about how long that's going to take, then your mental ineptitude is your own fault.



You feel upset, angry, someone didn't hold your hand? Go whine about the cost of it in general. $7 is a jump up, from the usual $5 fare. Does that mean I'm going to be 17yr old highschool angsty and G0 P1R4T3!! it? No. I'll pick it up later, if I still want it or there's a reason to. Grow Up.

[SaddleTrampNC]

danielassault wrote...

SaddleTrampNC wrote...

I dare say that the info on the Alliance was the bait to hook Cerberus and peak Shep's interest. As the title says, 'Stolen Memories', all she wanted out of it were the last memories of her boyfriend. All IMO, of course.

You see, if we were told that there was no information and it was all made up to get Shepard's attention, that would be an answer, and an interesting one at that. It would also add another layer to Kasumi's character, seeing that she would lie to get what she wants, even to Commander Shepard or an orginazation such as Cerebrus. That would show power in the character.

True enough.  Would also help if there was two-way conversation with Kasumi.  All in all, it generates some interesting theories.

[cynicalmicahel]

Lavans6879 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

And I love: 


"This is the reason why people are resorting to piracy"
 
Most people resort to piracy simply because they don't want to pay for something. They are unsure of the game and don't want to spend the $. They whine about being "burned" by a previous title, but, rather than avoid the developer's work, they tell themselves it's ok to steal it because, "I already gave them $50 for the last piece of crap. They owe me"

Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

Agreed. I can say that I honestly pay for it all... to include my music. My theory is that if I like soemthing and want more of it, say a band's music or a video game series, then they are going to require my money to fund future projects. Not really a hard concept.

[cynicalmicahel]

And, let's not forget why a company goes into business: to make money selling a product or service!

[cerberus1701]

Lavans6879 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

And I love: 


"This is the reason why people are resorting to piracy"
 
Most people resort to piracy simply because they don't want to pay for something. They are unsure of the game and don't want to spend the $. They whine about being "burned" by a previous title, but, rather than avoid the developer's work, they tell themselves it's ok to steal it because, "I already gave them $50 for the last piece of crap. They owe me"

Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

What you also need to comprehend, and to stop making half-hearted attempts to legitimize, is the simple fact that:

If you don't want to pay for something that someone is charging you for, you are NOT entitled to use it. You can start with, "When cars were only $3500....." if you like. It's still the same theft.

The fact that any of you either willingly gloss over or literally don't understand that is because either your parents didn't teach you squat or because you've so thoroughly compartmentalized one over the other that you've convinced yourself there's a difference.

I dunno which.

Modifié par cerberus1701, 10 avril 2010 - 03:46 .

[cerberus1701]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Lavans6879 wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

And I love: 


"This is the reason why people are resorting to piracy"
 
Most people resort to piracy simply because they don't want to pay for something. They are unsure of the game and don't want to spend the $. They whine about being "burned" by a previous title, but, rather than avoid the developer's work, they tell themselves it's ok to steal it because, "I already gave them $50 for the last piece of crap. They owe me"

Thank you for realizing the point I was getting at. People pirate software because they don't want to pay for it. Back when games cost $40, DLCs were free, and DRM was non existant, piracy wasn't anywhere the issue it is today. Once game developers started asking people to pay more money for games as well as putting price tags on DLC is when piracy took a steep incline. The addition of DRM didn't help either, it just pissed off more honest customers. Whats worse is that game developers fail to realize this and continue to charge more money for games and include even more invasive DRMs and "anti-piracy" features into their games. "Entitlement syndrome", as you put it, makes up a very small portion as to why people pirate games.

What you also need to comprehend, and to stop making half-hearted attempts to legitimize, is the simple fact that:

If you don't want to pay for something that someone is charging you for, you are NOT entitled to use it. You can start with, "When cars were only $3500....." if you like. It's still the same theft.

The fact that any of you either willingly gloss over or literally don't understand that is because either your parents didn't teach you squat or because you've so thoroughly compartmentalize one over the other that you've convinced yourself there's a difference.

I dunno which.

EDIT: Realizing that I may be misread andf it's just easier to tag it on here that I mean the takers when I say "you" Not you, you.

The fact is though that, however it's justified it all stems from a sense of entitlement. People think they are owed what they had before the way they had it before. Things change. Don't like it, don't game and try to do it the way you did before.


I'm actually GLAD for the opportunity to pay for more content in a game I love as I'm well old enough to have been gaming when those titles began and ended in the box it came in and you really DID have to wait two years for more.

Modifié par cerberus1701, 10 avril 2010 - 03:49 .

[Metal Cupcake]

Are other characters going to get the alternate appearance treatment as well?

[Shazzammer2]

Metal Cupcake wrote...

Are other characters going to get the alternate appearance treatment as well?

I'm pretty sure of it.