EmperorSahlertz wrote...
With this kind of stuff the amount of time Darkspawn will spend on the surface will be very limited, perhaps just a few raids now and then, mainly for females... But we could just give them the Dalish, an acceptable loss.
And we kill most of those people.Well you can't really blame him for thinking that way, a lot of people we have encoutner throughout the games thinks that way.
Only if they discover who it is. It's kind of hard to tear down someone who isn't even confirmed to be real.And if their is one thing people love more than their heroic Robin Hood, it is tearing their hero down.
Wait, what was the message? Did he tell you about Vigil's Keep or just where the Mother was? Because the latter information wasn't to be helpful to you but becaus he wanted you to kill the Mother.Well, the other thing is that they didnt' have to warn you. I felt that since they did warn us I wasn't going to kill the messenger since the message was good. I more than appreciate getting the message than not.
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Not to mention the annoying thing they do when they teleport and they're harder to kill than genlocks or hurlocks. Not to mention that Lanaya or Zathrian (if he's still alive) would get pissed and turn us all into werewolves.But the problem with the elves they breed Shrieks and those things are nasty, that pitch they use ugh. Their gonna want more then just Elves.
Sarah1281 wrote...
Not to mention the annoying thing they do when they teleport and they're harder to kill than genlocks or hurlocks. Not to mention that Lanaya or Zathrian (if he's still alive) would get pissed and turn us all into werewolves.But the problem with the elves they breed Shrieks and those things are nasty, that pitch they use ugh. Their gonna want more then just Elves.
Well it was mostly meant as a jokeThor Rand Al wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
Not to mention the annoying thing they do when they teleport and they're harder to kill than genlocks or hurlocks. Not to mention that Lanaya or Zathrian (if he's still alive) would get pissed and turn us all into werewolves.But the problem with the elves they breed Shrieks and those things are nasty, that pitch they use ugh. Their gonna want more then just Elves.
Lol I forgot about her. Uh not good idea to ****** off the Dalish
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Actually I think you doom the world more (is that kind of a paradox? anyway...) by killing the Architect than by sparing him.
By killing him, not only did you just destroy the one Darkspawn willing to at least try and coexist with the rest of the world, you failed at finishing the job. The Architect had several Disciples who escaped you, and now you've just given them incentive to join the next Archdemons against you and using the knowledge of the Architect against you. It would go against everything the Architect stood for, but given their new gained intellegence, I bet the Disciples also just developed a taste for vengeance.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
HUmans are like a virus..... So whats your point? That once we are done with the Darkspawn we should start killing ourselves?
Modifié par angj57, 29 mars 2010 - 04:21 .
Based on what do you claim that he is trying to coexist with the rest of the world?
Based on the fact that he wants to free his people from the call of the old gods and let them choose for themselves. As it is now there is no choice they will destroy all life they encounter, with intellegence they gain the power of choice. If you kill the Architect the next Blights could potentially get a lot of intellegent (as opposed to just those who chose that) Darkspawn to act as their Leiutenants. And the two remaining Old Gods are the one of Mystery and the one of the Night, both sounds exponentially more dangerous than the Old God of Beauty. And if the cycle of Archdemons truely is a cycle.... Well we all know what happens once you reach the end of a cycle...angj57 wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Actually I think you doom the world more (is that kind of a paradox? anyway...) by killing the Architect than by sparing him.
By killing him, not only did you just destroy the one Darkspawn willing to at least try and coexist with the rest of the world, you failed at finishing the job. The Architect had several Disciples who escaped you, and now you've just given them incentive to join the next Archdemons against you and using the knowledge of the Architect against you. It would go against everything the Architect stood for, but given their new gained intellegence, I bet the Disciples also just developed a taste for vengeance.
Based on what do you claim that he is trying to coexist with the rest of the world? All he claims to want is to awaken his darkspawn and free them from the call of the Old Gods. And even that is just the word of a Darkspawn who has butchered innocent people and never to this point done anything good for any non-Darkspawn in his life. Furthermore, there are only two Archdemons left, and the previous five have been defeated, so I would hardly consider the world "doomed" by them. In fact, as long as someone like the Arcitect doesn't come along and radically change the equation, it seems clear that the Darkspawn are eventually doomed to defeat and probable exstinction, as they should be.
Efesell wrote...
His plan in The Calling, insane though it was, was done with the ultimate goal of peace in mind. I don't see a lot of reason to assume he's changed that part.. just found a better way to go about it.
Based on what do you claim that he is trying to coexist with the rest of the world?
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Based on the fact that he wants to free his people from the call of the old gods and let them choose for themselves. As it is now there is no choice they will destroy all life they encounter, with intellegence they gain the power of choice. If you kill the Architect the next Blights could potentially get a lot of intellegent (as opposed to just those who chose that) Darkspawn to act as their Leiutenants. And the two remaining Old Gods are the one of Mystery and the one of the Night, both sounds exponentially more dangerous than the Old God of Beauty. And if the cycle of Archdemons truely is a cycle.... Well we all know what happens once you reach the end of a cycle...angj57 wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Actually I think you doom the world more (is that kind of a paradox? anyway...) by killing the Architect than by sparing him.
By killing him, not only did you just destroy the one Darkspawn willing to at least try and coexist with the rest of the world, you failed at finishing the job. The Architect had several Disciples who escaped you, and now you've just given them incentive to join the next Archdemons against you and using the knowledge of the Architect against you. It would go against everything the Architect stood for, but given their new gained intellegence, I bet the Disciples also just developed a taste for vengeance.
Based on what do you claim that he is trying to coexist with the rest of the world? All he claims to want is to awaken his darkspawn and free them from the call of the Old Gods. And even that is just the word of a Darkspawn who has butchered innocent people and never to this point done anything good for any non-Darkspawn in his life. Furthermore, there are only two Archdemons left, and the previous five have been defeated, so I would hardly consider the world "doomed" by them. In fact, as long as someone like the Arcitect doesn't come along and radically change the equation, it seems clear that the Darkspawn are eventually doomed to defeat and probable exstinction, as they should be.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Based on the fact that he wants to free his people from the call of the old gods and let them choose for themselves. As it is now there is no choice they will destroy all life they encounter, with intellegence they gain the power of choice. If you kill the Architect the next Blights could potentially get a lot of intellegent (as opposed to just those who chose that) Darkspawn to act as their Leiutenants. And the two remaining Old Gods are the one of Mystery and the one of the Night, both sounds exponentially more dangerous than the Old God of Beauty. And if the cycle of Archdemons truely is a cycle.... Well we all know what happens once you reach the end of a cycle...angj57 wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Actually I think you doom the world more (is that kind of a paradox? anyway...) by killing the Architect than by sparing him.
By killing him, not only did you just destroy the one Darkspawn willing to at least try and coexist with the rest of the world, you failed at finishing the job. The Architect had several Disciples who escaped you, and now you've just given them incentive to join the next Archdemons against you and using the knowledge of the Architect against you. It would go against everything the Architect stood for, but given their new gained intellegence, I bet the Disciples also just developed a taste for vengeance.
Based on what do you claim that he is trying to coexist with the rest of the world? All he claims to want is to awaken his darkspawn and free them from the call of the Old Gods. And even that is just the word of a Darkspawn who has butchered innocent people and never to this point done anything good for any non-Darkspawn in his life. Furthermore, there are only two Archdemons left, and the previous five have been defeated, so I would hardly consider the world "doomed" by them. In fact, as long as someone like the Arcitect doesn't come along and radically change the equation, it seems clear that the Darkspawn are eventually doomed to defeat and probable exstinction, as they should be.
Modifié par angj57, 29 mars 2010 - 04:30 .
oh! that'd be so cool!Sarah1281 wrote...
Not to mention the annoying thing they do when they teleport and they're harder to kill than genlocks or hurlocks. Not to mention that Lanaya or Zathrian (if he's still alive) would get pissed and turn us all into werewolves.
based on him hating blights because it makes darkspawn fight the people of the surface and through that darkspawn always ultimately lose. He wants the darkspawn to stop going to the surface and start fights.angj57 wrote...
Based on what do you claim that he is trying
to coexist with the rest of the world?.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
The Darkspawn was the ones being attacked, sure once the battle was started they didn't exactly try to stop it, but that porbably wouldn't ahve achieved anything, since I doubt the Grey Wardens would have stopped killing them anyway.Thor Rand Al wrote...
1) He attacked the Keep, supposedly it was a misunderstanding.
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And you are basing this assumption on what? That there were Darkspawn in the Deep Roads beneath the Vigil? Which part of the Deep Roads aren't there Darkspawn in? They could easily just have been drawn to the battle by sensing other Darkspawn and Grey Wardens nearby. In any case, do you actually think that the Darkspawn wouldn't have a backup plan in case that their peaceful attempt did not succeed? The only priority for the Darkspawn was to get Grey Warden blood. The Architect would have prefered to get it peacefully, but evidently the Grey Wardens didn't see eye to eye with Darkspawn.IanPolaris wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
The Darkspawn was the ones being attacked, sure once the battle was started they didn't exactly try to stop it, but that porbably wouldn't ahve achieved anything, since I doubt the Grey Wardens would have stopped killing them anyway.Thor Rand Al wrote...
1) He attacked the Keep, supposedly it was a misunderstanding.
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BZZZT! WRONG! Thank you for playing. WIthered planned and executed a deliberate SNEAK ATTACK designed to cripple the Grey Wardens at Vigil's Keep as much as possible. The dark spawn were NOT the ones being attacked. In fact, most of the castle was overwhelmed before an effective castle defense could even be mounted.
Either the Architect is blatently lying to you about this (and just how stupid does he think you are?) OR Withered went totally outside his orders from the Architect. Either way it doesn't exactly engenger trust in what the Architect is trying to do to put it mildly.
-Polaris
Nothing except the words of the Architect... Which is more than trying to proove the opposite anyway..Efesell wrote...
So wait, what do you have to prove your side exactly?
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